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Here have a piece of nicotine gum. It makes your fillings hurt.
I'm more of a sucky sucky lozenge man myself. Oh, and pop some of those protein shots in the post will you. Thanks.
I have to administer them personally. As a wise man once said to me... he couldn't test my BF% via the post.
Ssshhhh...
Modz be moddin'
I know it sucks. But we abide by the rules of this place and I think that on balance they do a great job.
Back on topic...
Bushwacked - I think that you highlight a key point (IMO) MTFU is sometimes knowing when to not train. Or to take it easy. Not just pushing yourself through sessions that you've planned.
The difficult balance is knowing when you're knackered and when you're wimping out.
[i]Ssshhhh...
Modz be moddin'
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whats been modded, what have i missed?
there's an ant in my office.
[i]there's an ant in my office. [/i]
Think yourself lucky its not a Rabbit.
whats been modded, what have i missed?
We can't discuss modding decisions in open forum. Yeti and I have had the emails.
i'm going for a ride tonight, think of me x
Bushwacked,
My experiences are very similar to yours. Despite regularly exercise and a "healthy" diet my fitness just kept going down hill for many years with "flu" like symptoms after even moderate exercise. I also suffered really badly with post exercise blues.
I would ride/exercise to my max on every session. And always pay the price. But never learnt.
However, the Docs just kept saying that I had probably had a virus and that nothing was wrong. So like you (and I expect most Type A personality types) I just kept pushing on and manning up.
Was just about hanging in there until work ramped up and a new baby arrived. Then one day I totally crashed and was diagnosed with ME.
Whilst I was clearly "overtraining" (given that I had an underlying illness that I wasnt aware of), the level of exerise I was doing was nowhere near what I knew I was capable of. So kept thinking that I was just being lazy. So went out and bought a SS to make things harder for myself!!
With hindsight I should have listened to my body, backed off, put my feet up and taken it easy.
Two years on and fully recovered I still find it very easy to "overtrain" and not listen to my body (I guess thats just my personality type and my military background), but these days I dont get the flu type symptoms/blues, just really tired/heavy/fatigued legs.
think of me
I do, lots of the time anyway Philly.
Nah.
😀
LOL - I just checked my e-mail attached to STW... Solo I can't beleive you reported me 🙁
[i]Solo I can't beleive you reported me[/i]
When ?.
For implying you use emoticons a lot.
Maybe it was someone else. 😀
[i]For implying you use emoticons a lot.
Maybe it was someone else.
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Ah, that, then.
Back in the late unpleasantness.
Much as I may hate to admit it.
Nope, don't blame anyone else.
No hard feelings... I just need to watch my P's & Q's or I shall be spending a long time in the box.
I was half tempted to report you at one point but couldn't be bothered to write the complaint!
TwoUndred. 😀
[i]No hard feelings... I just need to watch my P's n Q's or I shall be spending a long time in the box.
I was half tempted to report you at one point but couldn't be bothered to write the complaint!
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What can I say.
It all got a bit silly.
I will take this opportunity to take back some of my less than flattering remarks.
You, Phil and wider community have my apology.
FWIW.
I have only ever made two reports in all my years here.
Its not like its a habit.
So back in the make believe exercise thread...
Is Darcy still resting?
Did Dirty do her time trial?
Has skywalker died in a fit of laughter?
Where are Phil's sexy pictures?
I actually got bored of resting and went and did some intervalz yesterday afternoon. 😐
Careful now... if it wasn't in the schedule you're in danger of over-training.
After getting the WunUndred and TwoUndred on the thread, I felt I needed to capitalise on my awesomeness.
Darcy - I noticed that next week it will be the wunhundruff mid-week mini movies.
This pleases me in ways that even Philly can't.
Last night I washed the outside of the car, wheels too....
Now its flippin rained this morning !.
EDIT:
[i]Where are Phil's sexy pictures?[/i]
I think he's getting them developed at the same shop as MolGrips.
So they could be a while, coming back.
Nope, i did some unstructured jumps instead. It was freezing and i got an ice cream headache from descending in the cold. I'm struggling with knee pain since my bike fit and getting quite stressed out over it 😥
Solo, so its your fault its raining and i got soaked on my commute then? 👿
[i]Solo, so its your fault its raining and i got soaked on my commute then?[/i]
Sorry DG.
When they explained [i]Rain Dance[/i] to me.
I thouhgt I actually had to do a dance (mind bleach time).
I did't think washing the motor would work also.
Still, its an Audi, so perhaps this is par for the course.
DG.
Actually, your betroot thing.
How does that go exactly ?.
You are buying raw beets and just blitzing them.
Or do they need cooking up first ?.
Well your bike fit was wrong then! Adjust it back to what was right for you!
I went out and did your training ride for you Dirty. 3 miles in 7m 12secs... now if I can keep that up for an hour I've got the 25 mph challenge in the bag.
Followed it up with some HIIT sprints to complete 35k in total.
The womens target time was 10 mins btw.
Went out for an active recovery spin this morning but got a bit excited.
[i]i got an ice cream headache from descending in the cold[/i]
That reminds me of last winter (is it over yet ?).
I was riding into very cold wind and rain.
It made my forehead hurt so much I almost got off the bike to throw a tantrum in the middle of the road.
I never knew I could feel pain like that.
Even breaking my wrist didn't hurt that much.
[i]active recovery spin[/i]
Can you learn me what that is, please.
Obviously I see the word [i]recovery[/i] there ^^.
But how would doing more exercise actually assist recovery ?.
Genuine Q
This is a quick overview what I have stolen...
"Research indicates that after hard workouts, very easy workouts accelerate recovery more than complete rest. Easy aerobic training stimulates circulation which speeds up healing of tissues that have been damaged by hard training. For this purpose, it is absolutely critical to maintain an intensity that is enough to increase blood circulation and to trigger a growth hormone release, but not intense enough to increase the damage from which the athlete must recover."
Solo, i'm buying beets and juicing them at home and adding in lemon juice too. I've tried adding in other things, celery, ginger, carrots, apples etc but it just makes the juice much longer and i struggle to drink it all. So now its just a mug of beet with lemon, down in a oner with something to take away the taste afterwards!
TSY i'm going back to get the bike fit sorted, maybe on saturday pm but i'm racing on sunday...i find the whole fit thing stressful/tiring and not sure its best prep for racing. But then with knee pain, i'm not in much shape to race properly either... I can only see as far ahead on my training plan as Sunday so not sure if/when i have another 3mile TT to do. How did you find it, and did you keep to the right HR zone or did you just go flat out?
Active recovery, lol TSY you stole that from me! :p I have one session per week of active recovery (in zone 1 which for me is 121-152). What did you think of the rest of the zone info?
Ta
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It wasn't a lot of fun. Could've carried on for a fair bit longer but when Garmin said 5k was up I was releived.
Don't exactly know what my HR zones are so I went on feel. I could've pushed harder than what I did. Avg'd 174 I think for that interval.
I didn't steal active recovery from you... I did plagerise from your training plan for Solo's benefit though. I'm still undecided on the rest of it. It's very interesting but I'm possibly thinking that getting overly worried about what zone you're in, what zone you should be in etc, takes away some of the enjoyment.
Why do you find it stressful? Just chill and enjoy it... I loved seeing me riding on a screen, chatting about the science and stuff. As for your beetroot drink... I had a good bottle of recovery red win last night! This morning I had black pudding and bacon. The wine is the same colour as beetroot and my breakfast began with 'B' so all good IMO.
What's this new challenge? 3 mile TT? I might have a go at that, maybe down Maindy track.
Don't they so some crit racing at the maindy track?
Not a challenge as such Mol... it's part of Dirty's training plan and also a fitness test in one of Chris Carmichaels training plans..
Essentially though, yep, a 3 mile TT with HR at approx 85% of max.
How are you getting on with your training for doing a sub 30min 20k at Blenheim?
Mol, its on my training plan; A 20min warm up raising hr to 10beats below lowest zone 5a number. Then ride 1.5miles out and back keepig hr 9-11 bpm below lowest zone 5a number.
TSY, Get your hr zones set!! It wouldn't be that hard an effort in that zone and you should def be able to go harder/faster.
It does take away the enjoyment 100%...being coached isn't that enjoyable compared to my own self coaching. That's why i asked for club runs to be included otherwise i'd be riding on my own 6 days a week looking at my hrm all the time for intervals/cadence/hr zones etc. But the plan won't work if i ignore what zone i should be in! The club runs are a chance to work on skills, ignore the hrm and have some fun.
I'm just not that interested in the bike fit science as i don't believe in the one rule for everyone for all aspects of the fit; my cleats were set up to my measurements/flexibility but my inaccurate way of setting them up was better than science as i didn't have knee pain before and now i do! Plus the last one took nearly 5 hours instead of 2 so its mentally tiring too. Maybe i should have a bottle of red wine before the fit?!
It does take away the enjoyment 100%
What's the ****ing point then? Seriously? Why bother? If it's not fun I'd rather be in the pub! What does Mustard think of your training plan?
Maybe I should have a bottle of red wine
Don't take this the wrong way but I do think you should take some time out to relax and get some perspective... the sense I get is that all the coaching, bike fitting, desire to succeed is getting you down?
Then ride 1.5miles out and back keepig hr 9-11 bpm below lowest zone 5a number.
Oh, so it's not a test then.. not going flat out? Just one of those doesn't sound too hard... I used to do 4x10 mins at z5 which for me was about 95%.
Yeti - forgot to say, I'm not going to Blenhim now. Very annoyed about it, but we are required to be in the USA at that time.
the sense I get is that all the coaching, bike fitting, desire to succeed is getting you down?
Well that can be an issue sometimes, but think of it like say, decorating or something. It's fine to hate decorating, but you do it because you want the results, so overall it's worth it. I totally understand.
Do it as fast as you can then Mol... give us something to aim for 😀
Regarding the decorating analogy... depends how much it's impacting on you... I'd never want to lose sleep over wall papering.
The TRX straps i saw yesterday weren't there this morning, apparently they belong to one of the personal trainers... i only ever see him at the gym on wednesday mornings so i'm going to try and remember to ask him if i can use them next week when i see him... that or i'll fill in a suggestions form as they've got a new manager and now would be the time to suggest things 🙂