[Closed] Evolution - I`m not buying it.

[b]*head in hands crying*[/b]

There are books about it, go learn, you'll be amazed!

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trailwagger - Member
Just seems a bit far fetched to me that we have ended up with however many species with such a diverse form and function from a random set of circumstances.

I am sure someone here can convince me otherwise as I am no expert in the subject. So please feel free to enlighten me.

I'm happy to let you wallow in ignorance.

What's the less far-fetched explanation?

I don't suppose Earth is flat in your eyes too?

....and gravity? I'm not buying that crazy bullshit either!

Nope you're right, it was God in 7 days, he just put the fossils and the DNA links there to have a laugh with you....

Same with cheese. Bloody cheesolutionists claiming it exists. Meh.

So please feel free to enlighten me.

Do you think humans will be in the same form as they are today 3.5 billion years from now?

Because that's how long it took to go from the first fossils we know about to today.

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Yeah,it's like Dinosaurs, they were really,really small,but people just made stuff up about them and now fake all the big bones finds to try and fool us.
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Oh,and don't get me started on the moon landings,sheez.

jimdubleyou - Member
So please feel free to enlighten me.
Do you think humans will be in the same form as they are today 3.5 billion years from now?

Because that's how long it took to go from the first fossils we know about to today.

the jump from single cell to multi cell only happened 600 million years ago. It took 350million years to go from there to the dinosaurs. and about 4/500million to get to something approaching us.

i've got t-shirts older than that.

Oh,and don't get me started on the moon landings,sheez.

I don't believe in the moon.

Life on Earth has been rolling the evolutionary dice for four billion years. Think about how long that is - the presence of humans on this planet is but a flicker in comparison, and yet you can map significant evolution over that period.

Once you truly conceptualise the full timescale, then even the most complex and diverse lifeforms and variations start to seem possible.

In defence of the op I don't think trolls have followed an evolutionary path, they were magically created at the same time as fairies and dragons

somebody please insert the bart simpson not sure if trolling gif

But was it punctuated or gradual evolution?

I wrote a great essay on this subject for my finals but as is the nature of such exams the essay will never see the light of day.

God made everything, and fish are evil because they weren't drowned in the Great Flood.

[b] bart simpson [/b]not sure if trolling gif

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but also

In addition to those clips, there is incontravertible evidence such as this:

Evolution is happening right in front of the OP's nose, if he could be arsed to investigate what's around him.
A classic example is a species of moth camouflaged to blend in with the bark of certain trees. It became obvious after a while that due to the dirty air in London causing the bark of trees to become much darker, the moths were becoming darker to avoid showing up and becoming bird food.
The Galápagos Islands finches are the classic example which let Darwin form his theory, and it's obvious in the traffic casualties caused by people obsessed with their phones walking out into the road and getting killed; mostly they're pretty young and haven't had a chance to breed, so their stupidity genes won't get passed on, thus we'll see a slight improvement in the overall intelligence of the human race given time.
Although how we explain America is a bit of a problem...

I don't think you've ever been able to buy evolution have yiu?

Once you truly conceptualise the full timescale, [s]then even the most[/s] less complex and less diverse lifeforms and variations [s]start to[/s] would seem [s]possible.[/s] unlikely.

FTFOP

 

Evolution does fall down by making me bald.
The one place you do want hair is on your head.
It protects your head from bumps , the sun and keeps you warm in winter.
Yet for some reason the most important part of my body has been left open to the elements.
My shoulders don't need it, my toes don't need it, my ****ing head needs it.
There again it could be god being a ****

Everyone knows all life on Earth originated from Engineers, right? 😉

zippykona - Member
Evolution does fall down by making me bald.
The one place you do want hair is on your head.
It protects your head from bumps , the sun and keeps you warm in winter.
Yet for some reason the most important part of my body has been left open to the elements.
My shoulders don't need it, my toes don't need it, my * head needs it.
There again it could be god being a *

Or you could just buy a hat.

Evolution has enabled us to reach the dizzy heights of simple problem solving! 😆

Evolution does fall down by making me bald.
The one place you do want hair is on your head.
It protects your head from bumps , the sun and keeps you warm in winter.
Yet for some reason the most important part of my body has been left open to the elements.
My shoulders don't need it, my toes don't need it, my * head needs it.
There again it could be god being a *

Evolutionary dead ends aren't we?

Us baldies will die of head wounds and sunburn and the hirsute shall inherit the earth.

We shouldn't need to buy hats. If they were more effective than hair surely we would have evolved them?

Apparently hair loss has been linked to higher levels of testosterone. You may be intensely odd-looking, but are more likely to kill your love rivals to death and reproduce.

My mother in law (who is American...) genuinely didn't think evolution was a thing until a couple of years ago.

Incredible.

colournoise - Member
We shouldn't need to buy hats. If they were more effective than hair surely we would have evolved them?

I'll let you walk about in your bare feet as a protest.

[url=www.sciencealert.com/watch-this-3-minute-animation-will-change-your-perception-of-time#.WZ7DGXIdSvc.link]This timeline[/url] puts Earth and evolution into perspective... (sorry can't find a YouTube link to embed).

Evolution does fall down by making me bald.
The one place you do want hair is on your head.
It protects your head from bumps , the sun and keeps you warm in winter.
Yet for some reason the most important part of my body has been left open to the elements.
My shoulders don't need it, my toes don't need it, my * head needs it.
There again it could be god being a *

from an evolutionary point of view, there is no need. We exist purely to pass on our genes, raise young and die early so as not to be a threat to resources for the next generation. That's also why we only have 2 sets of teeth and so on, we are evolved to be at a peak in our late teens/early 20's and then rapidly fall apart after that. Being a baldy is a sign that you had lots of testosterone, could have been a big alpha male, sired lots of young and then shuffled off this mortal coil. You are just an evolutionary embarrassment 🙂

I heard a tourist in Windsor ask her husband (possibly the OP?) why they built the castle under the flight path

OK, first of all this is not a trolling post.

Secondly i understand the theory of evolution (at a basic gcse level)

So let me put some maths to my post.

In terms of mammals, the earliest mammal dates to 200M years ago.

If the average lifespan of a mammal is 10 years then there are

20m generations.

If a genetic mutation/variation occurs every fifth generation thats

4m genetic variations.

Only a certain percentage of those variations would be successful or advantageous, lets say 50%

2m variations.

Is that really enough to allow such a vast array of mammals to exist?

It's evolution via natural selection. Google it.

In short, random mutations produce differences - the differences that are better in a particular environment (i.e. a deer with a longer neck can reach leaves the other deer can't) cause the animal to propsper and have more kids and pass that trait on to more of the next generation so it becomes more common. Then another mutation with an even longer neck can reach even more leaves and so on. In a few thousand generations you end up with giraffes.

Is that really enough to allow such a vast array of mammals to exist?

Clearly it is. But you've just made up those numbers anyway.

Just bear in mind I'm slightly taller than my Dad. So if there was a huge reason to be taller, I'd have an advantage in just one generation. If I fancied tall girls, then we could easily be a tall family in no time at all.

How long does it take to breed a dog? Not long given there are American and even Australian breeds.

I went to Hastings at the weekend

A place that would leave the evolutionists in despair wondering what possible purpose these people were most fit for and the creationist wondering just how inept a god can be.

Actually it turns out Hastings old town has some very nice bits and if it were in Devon of Cornwall everyone would want to go there.

Is that really enough to allow such a vast array of mammals to exist?

It's evolution via natural selection. Google it.

In short, random mutations produce differences - the differences that are better in a particular environment (i.e. a deer with a longer neck can reach leaves the other deer can't) cause the animal to propsper and have more kids and pass that trait on to more of the next generation so it becomes more common. Then another mutation with an even longer neck can reach even more leaves and so on. In a few thousand generations you end up with giraffes.

But thats my problem with it. Not only does it rely on a few thousand generations to form longer necks, you then also need a natural event like a drout to cause the shorter necks to die out because the lack of water means there are no longer any lower leaves.

So how many generrations and natural event/environmental conditions to get from fish to human?

Google "The Darwin Awards", not only is it an interesting/hilarious read. Its slightly educational in that these people are removing themselves and their lower IQ from the gene pool in which to breed.