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I haven’t missed them. I read them too, more for a giggle though. Only the evening standard is less objective.
But one side is in control of the narrative and that is never a good thing IMO
Edit: IGM misread your comment so ignore last post
But it was still a vote for Brexit – and the concentrated effort by the remainers has been to ignore and/or attempt to overturn this by rabidly arguing against Brexit and denigrating those in favour of it rather than constructively and actively promoting a form of Brexit that retained the freedoms they feared losing (AKA potential compromise)
You seem unable to grasp what that means in a wider context than "leave the EU"
But if we had a vote on whether to stay in tonight or to go out, you wouldn’t consider that a vote to go out commits everyone to go to the opera, or to go downtown and get tattoos, or whatever else the person at the front decides to do.
Illustrates it perfectly....
We could equally have voted to all go to the cinema... and when we look at what's on we find nothing anyone actually wants to see and the only seat available are for a kids film and that all the options people had voted for the cinema for are not actually available.
Of course the only thing we lose is a night out in this case.
Now we have a few people in charge most of whom didn't want to go to the cinema (having an idea what was on) but are now insisted we all got a vote and we must all go through with it and watch the Disney film.
Rogue One was ok as Disney films go. Pretty good even.
Which Disney film do we think Brexit will be?
“Which Disney film do we think Brexit will be?”
Frozen, only without the happy ending
Fight club
apocalypse now
Dr strangelove
Zokes - surely it’s the Frozen sequel
Frozen Out
Mary Poppins ?
😄
Rogue One was ok as Disney films go. Pretty good even.
Which Disney film do we think Brexit will be?
I think the point is no-one knows ... obviously some Disney films are better than others but in this case we are committing to whatever happens to have seats left or we can just turn up and stand in the lobby if it turns out everything is booked up.
It might be Disney... it might not... it might just be the one that no-one else wants to see.
A sensible approach would have been to say "We'll go to the cinema if we can find something most of us agree on watching that has seats".... "or we might have to reconsider"
In this case the reasons for going to the cinema seem completely diverse as are the expectations of what that will be in practice. Of course some people want to go to the cinema even if it does mean not seeing a film and just buying some popcorn in the lobby but I don't think that's what most of those who voted had in mind.
“Zokes – surely it’s the Frozen sequel”
Thankfully I’m yet to be subjected to it 😁
Turns out the cinema was closed down last year and in its place there's just a big hole in the ground. Enjoy!
I would go with "song of the south". Since Disney really dont want to let anyone see it.
I see our Brexy is fixated on things from the past not the future.
Fair enough, it’s consistent. 😉
Was it a good film back in the day ninfan? Does it still hold up now?
(Actually I think the Brexies secretly see the UK as the Rogue One 😋)
Hey, I found a BoJo smiley 🤥
Farage 😩
Mogg 🧐
I know. It’s not big and it’s not clever. Bad igm.
🤣
given the €15bn budget hole that needs to be filled
...the Italian job ?
Very good.
Not Disney though. Paramount.
I mean you’ll be wanting Brewster’s Millions next
Sent off for not reading the question.
How about Aladdin, where a fat clown like creature promises your wishes will come true and there will be money aplenty if we just overthrow the nasty Grand Vizier.
Remember it’s a fairy story children.
I know I abused the rules of your game IGM just rather amused about Junkers conundrum and the fact that Italy is being left behind. Odd no one mentions their econ growth !!!
Too good to miss the lateral post.
Glad it all calmed down on here today - with the one obvious exception - those who can’t accept the result went a bit OTT yesterday.
The Jungle Book?
With King Louis played by BoJo and Moggy as Kaa. Farage and Banks would make good vultures, and the whadja wanna do, I don’t know, whadja wanna do scene is the Brexies all over.
Don’t think I’ve got an entry for Shere Khan though.
Problem.
Reckon if we can include the star wars prequals now disney have them its ep1 all the hype and promise but with 100% dissapointment
given the €15bn budget hole that needs to be filled …the Italian job ?
Perhaps they could save 350 million quid a week by leaving the EU? They could even get a big red bus to drum up support.
those who can’t accept the result went a bit OTT yesterday.
Pathetic troll is pathetically obvious
(Actually I think the Brexies secretly see the UK as the Rogue One 😋)
Nah, this is Brexit, the movie
00:58s was 23rd June 2016, The last 18 months have been the bit between the two fences... will we make the final jump or will the Germans manage to chase us down?
He doesn't even get his front wheel off the ground when it comes to "the final jump".
But, even though the remainers are trying as hard as they can to drag him back to the cooler, Every time you watch it, you still sit there hoping that, this time, he gets away with it...
Why does it not surprise me that the resident brexy invokes WWII?
Yep. Stuck in the past. Twice now. Three times if you include their vote in June 2016. And four if you include the way they keep going on about a vote two years ago like it ties the country’s hands in perpetuity.
History ninfan, get over it.
Have a fairy story smiley. 🧞♂️
What did you just say? “Get over it !!!!” 😀
bravo with the morning humour, which is much needed with cancelled trains and cold platforms
So spanking sessions with Barnier off the table now. Ach schade....
still compensated with “dynamic reciprocal mutual recognition models” to keep us going on fin services.
Scratched record is scratched.
You do know that most of the escapees got slaughtered at the end of the Great Escape? Even McQueen is recaptured and sent straight to the cooler...
I try with humour. You might as well laugh as the Brexies try to take the country to the gallows.
Hmm. The Great Escape? Do Brexiters have a persecution complex?
I prefer to smile as we overcome the perceived insurmountable obstacles (albeit slowly) - a relief and a positive surprise
Barnier will be choking on his croissant at the common sense proposal that we have for financial services!! I await his rebuttal with anticipation
Non, non, non...et enfin....d’accord
What did you just say? “Get over it !!!!” 😀
Oh my giddy aunt.
You couldn’t make it up could you? 😂
You won we lost get over it and tell us your solution to all the problems you are causing.
I prefer to smile as we overcome the perceived insurmountable obstacles (albeit slowly) – a relief and a positive surpriseBarnier will be choking on his croissant at the common sense proposal that we have for financial services!! I await his rebuttal with anticipation
But where does this get us other than one obstacle?
How much better off will UK's financial services be or is this more about limiting the loss?
As with most things Brexit I'm not seeing this as a positive but just damage limitation in order to try and not lose out as much as we might.
What I haven't seen is any upside... what jobs does this CREATE (not preserve) .. what income will it bring (not try and maintain)
Steve
we have to deal with what is in front of us not what we wish was in front of us.
So my thought process is to think what does the proposal mean versus the alternative (as Barnier pretends) not what we have now
So a very sensible proposal that the EU would be foolish to reject - let’s see what they choose to do...
Oh go on..tell us what the common sense proposal is, THM , as you seem to be so close to it all
It probably looks like
The UK is ready to set out its vision of how it wants financial services to operate after Brexit and favours an ambitious “mutual recognition” of regulations to preserve the City of London’s access to the EU.
Three senior figures briefed on Brexit discussions in the cabinet said that the government will back the proposal, which is also favoured by Mark Carney, the Bank of England governor.
One said: “They are going down the route of mutual recognition.” Another person close to the discussions called the preferred option a “dynamic reciprocal mutual recognition model”. The Treasury declined to comment.
Philip Hammond, chancellor, is expected to endorse the idea in a speech that could come as early as next week. His allies cautioned, however, that a final decision on a preferred model has not yet been taken.
Under Britain’s proposal, the UK and the EU would recognise each other’s regulatory and supervisory regimes and would have aligned rules at the point of Brexit, with a mechanism that would monitor any divergence.
This has been our plan A, plan B and plan C for about 12 months or more
Miles Celic, TheCityUK
A dispute resolution mechanism would also be established to calibrate market access or impose other conditions — for example higher capital requirements — if one side was seen to be breaking the spirit of the agreement.
The idea is likely to be welcomed by Britain’s financial services firms and is favoured by cabinet ministers because it would allow the UK to set its own rules to meet commonly agreed objectives such as consumer protection and financial stability.
Miles Celic, chief executive of TheCityUK lobbying group, said: “This has been our plan A, plan B and plan C for about 12 months or more.”
The proposal was developed by the International Regulatory Strategy Group, an industry body that consulted widely across the EU, as an alternative to the EU’s “equivalence” regime that applies to third countries.
But the idea is unlikely to win favour in Brussels and Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, has repeatedly said that the UK will not be able to negotiate special access arrangements to the single market for financial services.
Theresa May, who will discuss Brexit with German chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin on Friday, has said she wants to include financial services in a free trade deal. One ally of Mrs May said: “Obviously our future relationship is a matter for negotiation.”
According to the FT
we have to deal with what is in front of us not what we wish was in front of us.So my thought process is to think what does the proposal mean versus the alternative (as Barnier pretends) not what we have now
That's not entirely true though... what we have now is a valid option.
More importantly I believe is to compare what we have now with what we are likely to get and even what we might be lucky to get but with some actual detail.
This IMHO should have been done before any referendum (but it wasn't) so what we have its lots of crazy speculation.
This isn't simply financial although I think that is a big part. I'm happy we assess exactly what not being in the EU means as far as our Sovereignty... but the reality not the hyperbole. Are we really going to abolish EU laws on seatbelt testing or bike-locks (or any of the others) etc. and develop our own? And if we do who will we sell to?
Steve - unfortunately we voted on whether we wanted to continue with what we had now and the answer was “no thank you”.
So as interesting as the comparison with now may be it’s of little practical relevance
But I am pleased that sensible solutions are being proposed now and I expect the same principles to be applied across different industries - broad regulatory equivalence
bit to messy for the monochrome gang but in line with the realities of the real world
Like anywhere else we will adapt our standards to suit our target markets. Some remainers like to pretend that this is a new concept. It isn’t. It’s a old as the hills.
Steve – unfortunately we voted on whether we wanted to continue with what we had now and the answer was “no thank you”.
Which is rather meaningless given it didn't include what we are changing to.
It's pretty much like saying "Yes I want a lower unit cost for leccy" without being told what other charges I will have to pay or the conditions.
Obviously we'd all like a lower per kWh charge if everything else stays the same... but it won't stay the same. I might inly be able to use it certain hours, the standing charge will go up, I might have to get gas from them as well... etc. etc.
Before I vote on my lower per unit charge with my account details I want to know the conditions, otherwise its an uninformed vote.