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Why on earth would THM listen to anyone else? He knows what the truth is,and that counts for more than anyone else's opinion.


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 5:06 pm
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Thought I'd have a final look in here before then end of the year to see if the quality of debate has improved. I see things have improved a little but:

THM still posts mindless incomprehsible provacative disparaging drivel. I'll quote his latest contribution in case the perfidious **** stealth edits

Oh was that all?

Bloody thickos....

WTF are you on about and who are you replying too, THM?

Edit: thinking about it "thickos" is plural so he's adressing all the contributors to this thread as thickos.


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 5:11 pm
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Unlike most remainders I have spent a lot of time reading about why the leavers voted the way they did, why their campaign was more successfully than ours, and what lessons can be learned about it.

Much better than just dismissing them as thickos or ill-or uniformed. That the real condescending behaviour

What if we cancelled out from our side those who

1. Believe the € is a good thing
2. Deny the harm that this has caused the Euro Area
3. Believed that the UK economy would collapse immediately after the vote
4. Believe that it is impossible to create a unique FTA with Europe
5. Ignore the crass stupidity of imposing real (not pretend) austerity on a EU nation in the middle of an economic crisis

The leavers would have a landslide


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 5:12 pm
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Thought I'd have a final look in here before then end of the year to see if the quality of debate has improved. I see things have improved a little but:

Why you could have stuck to making wild accusations about Americans, Nigerians and Mexicans instead ?

Edit: thinking about it "thickos" is plural so he's adressing all the contributors to this thread as thickos.

No surprise to see you pop back, make something up, and use this to make unsubstantiated and potentially inflammatory claims about other posters. Are you going to tell the truth in 2018?


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 5:15 pm
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Is that your version of "la la I can;t hear you" ?


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 5:16 pm
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who knows what his latest cryptic zen comment meant but hey lets all feed him again by saying how little we value his contribution...it might just work better than ignoring him


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 5:30 pm
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No, this is the real condescending content on this page

Unlike most remainders I have spent a lot of time reading about why the leavers voted the way they did, why their campaign was more successfully than ours, and what lessons can be learned about it.

As for "ours", could you tell us what part of the remain campaign you contributed to please. You may have contributed to the failure but I certainly didn't.


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 5:34 pm
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Are you suggesting that no one read and/or believed list of untruths that you published on here? In which case you may be correct. Who knows?


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 5:37 pm
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[s]Out of your 5 points 2 of them relate to the eurozone, so have little [/s]
oh i can't be bothered. The radio waves must be getting to you.

Happy new year everyone.


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 5:48 pm
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That the real condescending behaviour

More condescending than going on about "grown ups"?
As for "spent a lot of time reading". Your demonstrated inability to understand what people have written on this thread, despite multiple attempts to correct you, doesnt give me faith in how well thats gone for you.


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 5:56 pm
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it's your side who refute that we have intelligent, grown up people (the "grown ups) playing an important role in negotiating our future access to the single market. I disagree and believe that we have some very grown up people doing a very good job in very difficult conditions

My reference to grown ups is a direct retort to the idea that we only have incompetent fools on our side. That just displays considerable ignorance and a lack of basic reading. The profiles of our front line team are available for those who read rather than abuse. Unfortunately quiet a few "cannot be bothered"


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 6:11 pm
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I'm suggesting people (both remainers and leavers) have happy new year without drinking too much, eating too much, or doing themselves any injury.

Have a good one guys.

And really, THM, your resolution should be to do something about your dependence on this place. You're here from before dawn to after dusk, from the train, from the office, from wherever you're riding a bike, walking or skiing or even claiming to relax - someone counted thirty odd posts in a day, the one constant on opening this thread is that there will be a post from you and it will give a bad impression you as a person. Let it go man, and read something by François Lelord instead. You only have one life, use it wisely, happiness is within your reach.


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 6:12 pm
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there will be a post from you and it will give a bad impression you as a person.

If true, that would be a remarkable coincidence.

What next, abusing Nigerians and Mexicans? What would them make me - a racist?


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 6:16 pm
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See.


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 6:31 pm
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[quote=teamhurtmore ]Unlike most remainders I have spent a lot of time reading about why the leavers voted the way they did, why their campaign was more successfully than ours, and what lessons can be learned about it.

Go on then...

Much better than just dismissing them as thickos or ill-or uniformed. That the real condescending behaviour

Given you appear to be replying to me, is that what you're accusing me of? In what way do you think I'm dismissing people? I simply provided a list of reasons a significant number of people voted Leave - are you suggesting that the list is inaccurate, or that it didn't apply to more people than the difference between the Remain and Leave vote?

What if we cancelled out from our side those who

Oh look, a list of things which is completely non-equivalent to mine.

What do you think folks, should I explain to THM why it is non-equivalent or should he go off and do some research because he'll learn more that way? 😆


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 8:18 pm
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I think if you discounted people from both lists remain would still have a landslide. That was a poor effort thm.


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 8:31 pm
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You have absolutely no chance of getting THM to look for evidence that he is wrong.


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 8:32 pm
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The Russians don't program their bots like that.


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 8:33 pm
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Thickos - general
No the conclusion was facile and without substance - hence the comparison to illustrate the same point

I think if you discounted people from both lists remain would still have a landslide. That was a poor effort thm

If so our campaign was even crappier than I thought. An even poorer effort, no wonder people have such difficulty getting over it. Perhaps in '18?

Happy new year !


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 8:33 pm
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[quote=teamhurtmore ]hence the comparison to illustrate the same point

Ah, so it was one of these, I did wonder:

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If so our campaign was even crappier than I thought.

There appears to be a failure in your thinking - are you suggesting that there was some way for the Remain campaign to persuade all those people who voted Leave for reasons which weren't based upon reality to change their minds?

BTW have you done your homework yet?


 
Posted : 31/12/2017 9:34 pm
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He won't have done his homework,he's too busy marking mock exam papers 😀


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 6:18 pm
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Interesting choice of first post for 2018 😯

You must be very proud


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 6:40 pm
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Its not his first post of the year ,I know how much you like accuracy and doing your own research, so god knows how you got that wrong 😉
Nothing wrong with a little bit of gentle sarcasm and i advise you to get used to it and "trolling" from all sides. You are almost a parady account


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 6:52 pm
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I see THM's new year resolution wasn't to stop sneering. Or if it was, it didn't last long.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 8:03 pm
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Three posts from “you lot”, all ad homs set the tone - including the chief troll laying out his on-going intentions for the new year. Not that this represents any change.

See you’re in the same boat captain. Classy stuff 😯 well done.

Anyone seen a topic?


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 8:16 pm
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How's the homework coming along?


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 8:50 pm
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Nothing you write is true and my warning is that if you continue to act like this then many will continue to respond like this.
You are free to think you are some sort of "victim " as the alternative means reflecting on your own behaviour and what you do to cause such a widespread response from so many posters.
its either because
1) they all have a point
2) everyone is just a troll

Best of luck working out where the truth is but yes if you keep doing this then folk will keep doing this

be the change you want, be nice to everyone and actually have a debate without sneering and condescending lets see what happens.

Surely you are bored of this and actually want to have a debate rather than just make people think you are a **** ?


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 8:52 pm
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Five in a row. Wow, the remoaner NY resolution in full flow. Stay classy guys. 😀

Fine thanks aracer


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 8:59 pm
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Posted : 01/01/2018 9:04 pm
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I look forward to seeing it when you're done then. If you need a hint, there are two parts to the answer. Though if it's proving too tough you could always address the points made in direct reply to you (I'm not suggesting doing that for every point you've yet to reply to on this thread, I'm not that cruel, just the post above would be a start...)

Five in a row.

I see. That presumably includes mine which can't be considered an ad-hom in any way or form and was simply enquiring on your progress in working out the difference between my list and yours.


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 9:05 pm
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Six. Hey, good game.

Are chewkw and Jambas on holiday still?!? 😀


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 9:10 pm
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seven

presumably you're counting every post made by somebody other than you


 
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eight


 
Posted : 01/01/2018 9:17 pm
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So 2018 Brexit predictions
(Low hanging fruit)
More tory rebels
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Right wing press will react badly
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We call the whole thing off?
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Or is that the end of this current shambles of a government


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 12:32 am
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Whether may can hold the tories together is the only thing of interest. She is treading a fine line trying to appease both sides so they can both claim a victory. Given this is impossible and she is fairy inept i expect it to go wrong sometime in the summer

Still think leaving is the most likely but all options are still a possibility


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 12:36 am
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Good news that UK manufacturing delivered best quarter for past three and half years, with expansion above long term trend.

UK getting on with it. Bravo!


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 2:49 pm
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Good to see us surging ahead of the Eurozone, "No, that honour went to the euro, which showed no sign of shedding the barnstorming form that defined the currency’s final fortnight of 2017. With the eurozone manufacturing PMI at a record high of 60.6 – prompted by country-specific all-time peaks for Austria, Germany and Ireland – the euro surged half a percent against the dollar, sending it above $1.206, while nabbing 0.2% off sterling to send its rival to a fresh 5 week nadir." Hurrah!


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 3:32 pm
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Are chewkw and Jambas on holiday still?!?

Jamba is now superfluous since you have adopted his line about the Euro being bad for the UK EU membership.


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 3:49 pm
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The € is bad for the € area, very bad, so it only affects us indirectly


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 3:53 pm
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So barnstorming is bad and nadir is good? Hurrah once more with added gusto!


 
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The € is bad for the € area, very bad
also seems to have adopted trumps style with jambys content 😯


 
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The € is bad for the € area, very bad

Hmm, that seems contrary to kilo's post. Which is it?


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 4:36 pm
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[quote=teamhurtmore ]UK getting on with it. Bravo!

UK carrying on doing what it was doing before and paying no attention at all to Brexit, Bravo! I'm not sure why you think it wouldn't be, but clearly Brexit hasn't happened yet, so nothing much has changed.


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 6:48 pm
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Apart from 48% of the population having something to be very pissed off with, feel threatened by and draw in purse strings at the margin accordingly.


 
Posted : 02/01/2018 6:54 pm
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The UK’s PMI for December stood at 56.3; that for the eurozone stands at 60.6. The gap has not been wider for almost a decade.
"UK getting on with it. Bravo!" If by it ,you mean being out performed by Europe.


 
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