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Mike - ECHR and removing the UK from this is one of the main thrusts of the whole shambles
Mike I made specific reference to a racist cartoon - my parents cames to the UK just before I was born but my brother was born in Zambia. He was a banker for part of his life but did not wear stereotypical clothing nor does he have large lips as portrayed - and to racist apologists on previous pages. They are easy to read unless you are an apologist too. Your choice.
What has brexit got to do with ECHR?
Our current Conservative Prime Minister has said that she wants us to pull out of the ECHR.
We can't pull out of the ECHR while being members of the EU.
The EU will want to make any deal that gives us a "close relationship" dependent on ECHR.
sorry TJ just still trying to get to the bottom of the accusations levelled at somebody. Seems THM doesn't want to tell us, we should all appreciate how thick we are not to have worked it out by now.
Brexit is about removing all the things that have stopped the UK being great like beating prisoners, stopping democracy, poisoning beaches and rivers. You know all the things Germany struggled through to be a nation returning a surplus despite all of that and being part of the Euro.
Ed you posted racist cartoons to make s point. True colours.
Mike as you know ECHR has nothing to do with Brexit unless you are a remoaner deliberately distorting the truth.
Still after last week, must be tough being a remoaner so struggling with the truth is understandable
Nope. Nice yet Brexit has nothing to do with ECHR unless you need to make things up to (mis)prove a point
my parents cames to the UK just before I was born but my brother was born in Zambia.
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Still after last week, must be tough being a remoaner so struggling with the truth is understandable
Claims offence at a cartoon and then launches in with the insults again...
If you missed the point of the cartoon it was that those in finance and banking don't have to worry about little things like freedom of movement or visa's as they can just buy them.
Mike as you know ECHR has nothing to do with Brexit unless you are a remoaner deliberately distorting the truth.
Bullshiting for England! Keep going.
Well that’s a lie too. Racist and inaccurate. Very fitting
I wouldn't hold your breath Mike. Classic THM tactics. throw out general accusations then refuse to provide any details or back it up
WikiFor most of the colonial period, Zambia was governed by an administration appointed from London with the advice of the British South Africa Company. On 24 October 1964, Zambia became independent of the United Kingdom
my parents cames to the UK just before I was born but my brother was born in Zambia. He was a banker for part of his life but did not wear stereotypical clothing nor does he have large lips as portrayed - and to racist apologists on previous pages. They are easy to read unless you are an apologist too. Your choice.
WTF are you dribbling on about?
Racism AA - it’s quite an important issue for some of us. Are you an apologist too?
Some genius trolling, you have to admit. Ninfan throws this thread yards off topic with a typical hate stirring spin on some horrible crimes carried out by UK citizens, and then THM takes us miles off topic by throwing as many cries of "racist" into the mix as possible. Time wasters.
What are we apologising for again? (as somebody who has been called professionally offended before) If it's just the cartoon then you obviously missed the actual meaning that nice english bankers get away with what they like.
Racism AA - it’s quite an important issue for some of us. Are you an apologist too?
I dont know, you're the clever one why dont you tell me. I as usual have my work cut out understanding your posts.
Do you have to be white to be English? Why English not British? Why was the banker not black? Why the stereotype clothes and the exaggerated facial features?
Why would someone want to post such a cartoon?
I used "English", not "British" in my comment deliberately, due to your rants about Scottish people.
What cartoon?
And that the English toff banker will have to move to Germany to find work post Brexit, but thanks to Brexit will have the same status as refugees fleeing conflict in Africa - but without the refugee staus so they'll just be (hated by the British gutter press) economic migrants. The irony being that a Brexit born of hate for economic migrants has turned the banker into an economic migrant.
Anagallis-A, I posted a few cartoons to illustrate how the French and British cartoonists are playing with Britain. One of the cartoons portrayed a sterotypical British toff banker, a steotypical German civil servant and two sterotypical refugees in a German asylum seekers reception office.
THM claims the cartoon is somehow racist. In that the only person show in a negative light is the British banker I fail to see it as racist unless the fact the banker is white is the reason the cartoon is funny. I found it funny because of the irony of a British banker becoming an economic migrant due to Brexit. And the sterotypical portrayal of the British banker.
For racist abuse (with the threat of physical violence) of someone that was excused on the basis of lies. But we have seen victim blaming before in the case of harassment. So no change there. True colours
Maybe you could try taking a breath and put it down in some easy to understand bullet points for me?
I see people have tried to raise the latest trade deal several times… only for troll noise to drown them out… so Japan… when will we get a trade deal, how much longer after the EU/Japan deal, in what way and how can we get better terms, and how will Brexit inform future EU/Japan relations (if the successful model of Japanese investment in the UK for SM/CU sales, is seriously damaged)?
Edukator - Reformed Troll
And that the English toff banker will have to move to Germany to find work post Brexit, but thanks to Brexit will have the same status as refugees fleeing conflict in Africa - but without the refugee staus so they'll just be (hated by the British gutter press) economic migrants. The irony being that a Brexit born of hate for economic migrants has turned the banker into an economic migrant.
Nope.
I think THM is still banging on about the drunk ****s that his son had the displeasure of sharing a train with.
Can someone just delete all the [b]"nope"[/b] posts?
Is a "banker" moving to another country for work reasons an "ecomonic migrant"…?
Is Brexit causing the movement of people working in financial services to move from the UK to other countries…?
Was the Brexit vote in any way linked to people wanting to reduce the number of people moving to the UK for work…?
I think THM is still banging on about the drunk ****s that his son had the displeasure of sharing a train with.
Oh right. How does this link to cartoons?
Happily when people stop posting inaccurate statements. It’s easy - well should be. But it’s been a bad week if you are into the truth
AA both racism and apologising for racism have been desolated in different occasions. Along with victim blaming. True colours
kelvin - MemberI see people have tried to raise the latest trade deal several times… only for troll noise to drown them out… so Japan… when will we get a trade deal, how much longer after the EU/Japan deal, in what way and how can we get better terms, and how will Brexit inform future EU/Japan relations (if the successful model of Japanese investment in the UK for SM/CU sales, is seriously damaged)?
The EU side have categorically ruled out any deal for the UK that is better than the trade deals the EU has with any other non EU nations
I don't think that's the case at all TJ. If it is, could you post a link please? Ta.
Back in the summer we received a commitment from Japan that they would look to replicate and EU trade deal with one with the UK
When? Will we get better terms? Is there a risk of getting worse terms?
All we know for now is what the Japanese have committed to. The rest is unknown IIRC
Skim reading suggests that, at least initially, we won't get worse terms. That's ace! A commitment on timescales would be the icing on the cake, but too many unknowns on our side for that, I suppose.
This is why we needed to move on from the start but the EU didn’t want that. Watch the French do the same over next quarter
You with the sad eyes
Don't be discouraged, oh I realize
It's hard to take courage
In a world full of people
You can lose sight of it all
The darkness inside you
Can make you feel so small
Show me a smile then
Don't be unhappy
Can't remember when
I last saw you laughing
This world makes you crazy
And you've taken all you can bear
Just call me up
'Cause I will always be there
And I see your true colors
Shining through
I see your true colors
And that's why I love you
So don't be afraid to let them show
Your true colors
True colors are beautiful
I see your true colors
Shining through (true colors)
I see your true colors
And that's why I love you
So don't be afraid to let them show
Your true colors
True colors are beautiful (they're beautiful)
Like a rainbow
Oh oh…
kelvin - Member
I don't think that's the case at all TJ. If it is, could you post a link
It's on the front page of the observer today, although it's eu sources rather than a named party. Says third countries have already mentioned U.K. Getting preferred terms with Eu would be a problem
[i]kelvin - Member
Can someone just delete all the "nope" posts?
Is a "banker" moving to another country for work reasons an "ecomonic migrant"…?
Is Brexit causing the movement of people working in financial services to move from the UK to other countries…?
Was the Brexit vote in any way linked to people wanting to reduce the number of people moving to the UK for work…? [/i]
Yep.
It's on the front page of the observer today, although it's eu sources rather than a named party. Says third countries have already mention
All pretty meaningless (and not news) unless we know which third countries it refers to.
I want to see a Venn diagram of…
A) countries threatening to block our proposals for UK outside the EU at WTO
B) countries with, or negotiating, EU trade deals seeking to stop us getting a more preferential FTA with the EU
C) countries we are hoping to get a better, and/or earlier, trade deal with outside the EU, rather than as members
If we could get that drawn up, I think it would blow the mind of, for example, Liam Fox.
I think THM is still banging on about the drunk ****s that his son had the displeasure of sharing a train with.
I think we need to add [i]allegedly[/i]. Personally I'm calling "fake news". His language used is pretty suspect, he moves tenses, I think he made it up because it suits his trolling. Gives him something to be professionally offended about.
I see now he's taking a leaf out of chewks book 😯 😯
Maybe he forgets which sock puppet he's supposed to be today 😆
Watch the French do the same over next quarter
Do what exactly over the next quarter? Without details I'll take that as a slur.
Kelvinthats the story ( plus a couple of others) I was basing it on.
Note the Canada deal does not include financial services and I also read that "EU officials" are ruling out anything better than that
Also
PETER MANDELSONFormer EU trade commissioner
Theresa May has now accepted the principle of regulatory alignment with the EU and this is a step towards staying in the single market. The mooted alternative of a Canada-style trade agreement [b]does not work for Britain as this would only eliminate tariffs on goods whereas we need regulatory alignment to permit free trade in services.[/b] .