[Closed] EU Referendum - are you in or out?

Ninfan, self-pwning again?

Where did she say she was accused of being racist in your reference?

Ignored yes, police repeatedly failing to act in those cases tragic.

Racial concerns a factor, as was the police writing this women off as 'loose'

Horrendous behaviour and you could even say that cultural blindness made it worse but these were second gen immigrants, which means they mustve been kids for people Thatcher allowed in and we know that the Thatch is sacred...

Where in that article does is state that minions of Blair accused Cryer of racism?

😐

Does she mention Blair in that snip or that it was organised by his minions? No thought not.

Tony Blair was leader of the Labour Party, you appear to be offended by the prospect of people under his leadership being referred to as his minions.

Maybe it was as Jezza and his mates? 🙄

This warped view of a horrible bit of recent history has what exactly to do with membership, or otherwise, of the EU?

This warped view of a horrible bit of recent history has what exactly to do with membership, or otherwise, of the EU?

I was wondering myself how we’d arrived at hordes of rapists sweeping through northern towns being the fault of the EU.

To be fair to Zulu, it’s not like he ever tries to sidetrack discussions like this. Very unusual behaviour.

In fact, I have more of a right to call brexiteers thick than they have of any expectation that the results of the referendum should be carried through.

Sums up the behaviour of remoaners. As disingenuous as it is shameful. But again thanks for the honesty.

Of course child abuse in Rotherham is all the fault of Tony Blair & the EU !

At least jhj has a stream of consciousnesses!

Rather than just stringing together a couple of things that Guido/breitbart tells him are evil !

Meanwhile the Tory brexiteers* are getting antsy about the deal, something to do with the Brexie voters** on twitter getting very frothy about May's betrayal

* Note brexiteers Thm, that usually means Gove, Mogg & co.

** Those lot definitely not thick thm 😉

Of course child abuse in Rotherham is all the fault of Tony Blair & the EU

However, the Brexit vote, whether you like it or not, [b]was[/b] massively tied up with all three

Really people voted Brexit coz of Tony Blair (or indeed abuse in Rotherham*) ?

* Coz if they thought that leaving the EU would mean the hated ****stanis living in Rotherham would be expelled then they deserve to be called thick

Yep another one where people were told every bad thing was the fault of the eu and without the eu they could just throw the foreign criminals onto the sea.

However, the Brexit vote, whether you like it or not, was massively tied up with all three

Sure. That's spin and propaganda for you.

it's heartbreaking, really. Let's leave the EU because a dozen or so (evidently European) brown people got away with grooming and rape for a very long time. Totally the EU's fault.

Are you suggesting that people were misled by those three things, are justified by them?

As for the BS that this is a Tory issue - although the (mis)framing explains much of the BS - let’s see what Sir Keir Starmer thought

Although we are fiercely internationalist and fiercely pro-European, [b]we in the Labour party are, above all, democrats. Had the outcome been to remain, we would have expected the result to be honoured, and that cuts both ways. [/b]A decision was made on 23 June last year to leave the EU. Two thirds of Labour MPs represent constituencies that voted to leave; one third represent constituencies that voted to remain. This is obviously a difficult decision. I wish the result had gone the other way—I campaigned passionately for that—[b]but as democrats we in the Labour party have to accept the result.[/b] It follows that the prime minister should not be blocked from starting the article 50 negotiations.

Labour MPs in the north of England are afraid to make the case against [b]incase their voters turn against them.[/b] Its pathetic. See Andy Burnham playing the race card in the manchester mayoral elections.

* Coz if they thought that leaving the EU would mean the hated ****stanis living in Rotherham would be expelled then [b]they deserve to be called thick[/b]

Labour voters and Thick racists... strange old correlation that one 😉

As for the BS that this is a Tory issue

No, you're right, the Tories totally have nothing to do with this.

So next step would have been to present a coherent leave policy to Parliament outlining what was being proposed and the impacts of various outcomes (can't be that hard as you tell us thm that you have a full set) presented an economic assessment and budget and voted on that with a number of safeguards in place for when it turned really bad.

And yes it is a tory issue, they proposed it, they delivered it and now they are running it.

"It follows that the prime minister should not be blocked from starting the article 50 negotiations."
Unless and until the people of the country decide that Brexit is not for them,at which point the farce should stop. Plus the remoaners are democratically entitled to keep pointing out, as you have thm, that Brexit is a really bad idea.

I wouldn’t expect you to remember what the Tory government and PM campaigned for cougar. So don’t worry. It’s not just Brexshiteers who distort the truth.

I have already posted a gov note on next steps and the various expected outcomes - to which we got the reply, “can’t be bothered to read 87 pages”. And yet no one is calling for those who don’t want to understand to be excluded from voting.

Do next step would have been to present a coherent leave policy to Parliament outlining what was being proposed and the impacts of various outcomes (can't be that hard as you tell us thm that you have a full set) presented an economic assessment and budget and voted on that with a number of safeguards in place for when it turned really bad.

Should have been done before the referendum was offered,

although you could argue project fear attempted that but hey how with the leave side running better advertising.

remember Goves we’ve had enough of experts line and lately DD’s hating of models.

Labour voters and Thick racists

Anyone can be racist, it's not always Tory voters!

But racists & thick is a much stronger correlation

Plenty of smart racists. And plenty more smart people using racism as a tool.

Is it smart to post racist cartoons or just racist?

Mini THM is Edinburgh this evening gets abused for being English - “FO you English, this is Scot Rail after all”. How charming.

So you have discovered racism, lucky he doesn't have to experience it every day.

I know imagine if he was an Aborigine?

Given the casual racism against Scots of his father my guess is the son has the same attitudes

I have an english name and accent and have not experienced this is 25 years of living in Edinburgh. Edinburgh has a huge number of english folk living in it

kelvin - Member

Plenty of smart racists.

And plenty more smart people using racism as a tool.

Indeed. Its all part of the game for people. stir up racism to divide and conquer

teamhurtmore - Member
I know imagine if he was an Aborigine?

@tj there are many people who are smart who are racist - doesn't make racism smart or any less stupid. There are also a number of very smart people doing the manipulation of people to use race to create division for their own means.

Mini THM is Edinburgh this evening gets abused for being English

Maybe the acorn never falls far from the oak and mini thm was being a dick, trying to wind people up and got a reaction...

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42297430
and more enemies of the people fighting the undemocratic parliament...

A cross-party group of MPs says the promise of a "meaningful vote" for Parliament on any Brexit deal should be enshrined in the EU Withdrawal Bill.
Former Conservative attorney-general Dominic Grieve will table such an amendment to the bill later this week.
The All-Party Parliamentary Group on EU Relations supports the move, urging backbenchers to put "the national interest" above party politics.
The amendment will be debated in the House of Commons on Tuesday.

Who would have thought that having an option to reign in the one party driving Brexit would be a good thing

teamhurtmore - Member
Is it smart to post racist cartoons or just racist?

Mini THM is Edinburgh this evening gets abused for being English - “FO you English, this is Scot Rail after all”. How charming

I've had "Oi, JOCK!!!" in London more times than I can count. And been told my money was scrap (or worse) far too often. Curiously, only in certain English cities, go figure.

So casual xenophobia is endemic, and no indication of mental prowess 🙂

Free trade deals you say?

https://www.ft.com/content/b48e4f3a-dc0e-11e7-a039-c64b1c09b482

well thank brexit we won't have that awful deal rammed down our throats by the fascist EU warmongering capitalist scum.

Had the outcome been to remain, we would have expected the result to be honoured, and that cuts both ways.

Which is frankly BS, we all know that if leave had lost it would not have shut up and "respected" the result.

So why expect remainers to shut up?

Farage said as much on the day, didn't he?

When is it going to become the fault of Jews and Marxists?

If you're going for the full stab in the back myth you might as well do it properly. 🙄

I'd appreciate it if people who link the FT at least paraphrase what the article says otherwise the post means nothing to the majority of STW users.

Edukator, sign up to the FT and you can read a few per month

There's about an FT link a day on this thread.

my guess is the son has the same attitudes

Is wrong - as usual - both in the intention of the insult and amusingly in fact since both are Scotophiles. Still 99% wrong TJ, well done.

Edinburgh has a huge number of english folk living in it

Indeed some even own multiple properties pushing up prices for low income Scots increasing homelessness in the capital so that they have homeless people living on their doorstep. Then they deal with their sense of guilt by offering the poor a coffee and a sandwich and publicise their "generosity" for a pat on the back ?!? What spirit??

No metalheart - but more obvious who is behaving like a dick and the apologists for racism. The next thing will be posting racist cartoons like other tag team members. True colours coming out loud and clear

No metalheart - but more obvious who is behaving like a dick and the apologists for racism. The next thing will be posting racist cartoons like other tag team members. True colours coming out loud and clear

I wouldn’t expect you to remember what the Tory government and PM campaigned for cougar.

I'm sure he remembers fine, since his memory also appears to stretch back to remembering why there was something to campaign about in the first place.

So don’t worry. It’s not just Brexshiteers who distort the truth.

Apparently not

Some of us fight against and call out racism. THM posts racist slurs and gets banned / warned for them and has his posts removed.

THM has outed himself as anti scots racist many times

Please read it's easy - note the lie required to attempt to blame the victim. True colours.

More lies TJ but your crass attempt to victim blame was obvious. True colours

Good Marr today with Stramer and DD. Interesting program

Both main parties on the same page and Labour ruling out second referendum.

Please quote and post it's really easy.