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David Davis tells a parliamentary committee that Mrs May and the rest of the cabinet have not read the Whitehall reports on the impact of Brexit. Apparently they've only read the summaries.
Wouldn't want to get bogged down in any detail eh? Not like it is important or anything. 😯
What Brexit has shown us is that minority elites will try to ride roughshod over the wishes of the majority (of voters) in order to protect their minority interests
That's pretty dumb, even from you
What Brexit has shown us is that minority elites will try to ride roughshod over the wishes of the majority (of voters) in order to protect their minority interests
Also shown that a bunch of minority elites will never waste an opportunity to shaft the population at large, whip up xenophobia and racism, lie, extort etc.
Obviously CA, wikileaks, breitbart, putin, etc can't have been tampering with the election because we are British and we do the best elections in the world...
The British government’s attempt to lobby individual EU leaders in the run-up to the recent crunch EU summit, where member states were to judge the progress of the negotiations, actively damaged Theresa May’s hopes of a better outcome, the Guardian has learned.A secret plan had been drawn up under which the EU leaders would have made the surprise and highly symbolic move of stating in their conclusions on the day of the European council meeting that they would take into account Britain’s positions as they announced their intention to scope out their ideas on a post-Brexit transition period and trading relationship.
Source and your thoughts TJ?
I added the source. Its just more predictable incompetence from Maybot and the 3 amigos. Everything they do turns to shite
3 Brexmigos please TJ
Anybody think the negotiations will go the distance without the UK being caught blackmailing/bunging/smashing up the negotiating rules?
So how many of the brexiteers are amongst the 40 being hinted at of sexual misconduct.
And will May really fire anyone with her majority as it is? DUP funding falling apart, NI direct rule approaching, More chaos and apparently they are meant to be negotiating this thing called Brexit???
The Brexit department has refused to release key details about the 58 secret studies into how leaving the EU will impact the economy, saying officials need to make policy in a “safe space”.Seema Malhotra, a Labour MP on the Brexit committee, had asked to know the scope, terms of reference and state of completion of the work on 58 sectors of the economy, but the department refused to release the details under freedom of information laws.
-- https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/30/government-refuses-to-release-details-of-studies-into-economic-impact-of-brexit
Yay democracy! #takingbackcontrol 😐
That's pretty dumb, even from you
Why thank you Zokes. I was always taught that it's important to tailor your message appropriately for a given audience. I am glad i succeeded there. It's a pleasure BTW.
😀
#projectfear. It's all sunlit uplands, just you wait and see.
The Bank of England believes that up to 75,000 jobs could be lost in financial services following Britain's departure from the European Union.
I understand senior figures at the Bank are using the number as a "reasonable scenario", particularly if there is no specific UK-EU financial services deal.
I believe the coke and hookers industry is also forecasting a rough few years.
Wow David Davis admitting that EU will get the better of the UK in the withdrawal deal !
Seeing is up for hard Brexit? Or just being uncharacteristically honest
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Time to get the bus repainted....
Though it's missing the costs of leaving a little with the FT saying about 5,000 more border workers are needed.
Davies admits to half a billion pounds spent of brexit already - I have counted over a billion budgeted for by various depts
British households are each more than £600 a year worse off following the vote to leave the European Union, according to one of the UK’s leading economic forecasting bodies.The National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) said it is “almost certain” the leave vote has damaged living standards and hit the growth potential of the economy. The thinktank also scaled back its expectations for growth in the UK for the next three years.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/01/brexit-vote-cost-niesr-economic-growth
A billion here, a billion there, soon we're talking about serious money.
TBF if brexit could happen and be reasonably successful then a billion here or there in the arrangement would be no big deal. The real problem is that brexit is an insoluble nightmare with no way forwards. Either those in charge of it still haven't realised that yet, or they have and prefer to kick the can endlessly down the road in the hope that something turns up or it becomes someone else's problem.
Neither of these alternatives is very palatable IMO.
Either those in charge of it still haven't realised that yet, or they have and prefer to kick the can endlessly down the road in the hope that something turns up or it becomes someone else's problem.
Oh they know, why do you think those 58 resorts are being suppressed
Oh they know, why do you think those 58 resorts are being suppressed
Because the Germans stole the towels.
Brexit is going to be an unmitigated disaster for the vast majority of us, but not all. As with the banking crisis, some will do very nicely out of it. Since that debacle, the rich have got considerably richer, while the majority have, at best, seen their incomes and living standards stagnate, and mainly fall. All while the 'crisis' has been used to slash public spending.
Tha couldn't possibly be about to happen again, could it? Surely not?
Never let a good crisis go to waste. And can anyone honestly see Brexit not becoming a fully blown crisis in the immediate future? As deadlines loom and the directionless dithering continues.
I'm now completely convinced that crashing out without a deal is their desired outcome, and that the resulting chaos will then be used as a cover to force through god only knows what!
Tha couldn't possibly be about to happen again, could it? Surely not?
What the lets take billions off the NHS and spend it on Brexit instead plan???
Who would be so stupid
Has anyone worked out what £600 per household is yet?
I reckon (seriously) that it’s about £350m per week.
Can someone check my maths?
Irony much?
Who would be so stupid
I think the UK electorate would accept the challenge
#trollingthm
😆Because the Germans stole the towels.
I actually don't think the 58 reports are being suppressed because they are negative. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they are negative. But that's not why they are being suppressed. Rather, the reason is just that this is the nature of govt and the UK civil service, information is always suppressed in principle unless there are stronger forces to the contrary.
*munches popcorn*
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41829107
Yep, "taking back control" indeed. I wonder where the money came from? I suspect that Mr Putin knows.
there is a long list and I hope many of them discover Karma
I am Ling...
I haven't read [u]all[/u] 1022 pages, but I'd like to think UK cyclists would support Brexit, in general.
Being forced to drive on the right by the EU will cause massive carnage among cyclists. We don't want that!
Plus, as an immigrant to the UK, and doing my best for Britain to cast-off the hopeless (evil) EU, it's hard to believe that cycling in the proud country that created the Chopper would do anything but create a warm, fuzzy feeling of pro-Brexit bounciness.
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Hope all the cyclists tinkle their bells for Brexit, here!
- Ling
have to wonder, what happens if the EC decides that Banks has broken the law, what happens???
Rerun the election, carry on regardless despite knowing the money was obtained and used questionably?
I am Ling...I haven't read all 1022 pages, but I'd like to think UK cyclists would support Brexit, in general.
Come to defend your business, stay for the arguments... 😀
Poor chewkw he has competition and it is so much better than he is
Junkyard - lazarus
oh, hello... 🙂
proud country that created the Chopper
Ever ridden a chopper? They were properly shite.
nickc - MemberEver ridden a chopper? They were properly shite.
Errr, no.
But, what a stunning design. Superb, like Concorde or an Inter City 125 train, or... something else like a Hovercraft? I'm no expert.
- Ling
ling - Member
I'm no expert.
- Ling
A) Then you've come to the right thread
B) Just as well, because Brexitards have no need for experts, what with their knowledge and experience. The BASTARDS!
teethgrinder - MemberB) Just as well, because Brexitards have no need for experts, what with their knowledge and experience. The BASTARDS!
That's not very nice.
You seem like a Brussels implant. You must feel very lonely here, eh?
MORE MAYONNAISE FOR MR TEETHGRINDER, PLEASE! HIS CHIPS ARE DRY!
- Ling
Sorry Ling, you were good on That Other Thread but this is just boring shite.
Did I forget to pull the pin?
- Ling
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Helpful?
Don't let the EU ruin it.
- Ling
[quote=thecaptain ]Sorry Ling, you were good on That Other Thread but this is just boring shite.
its just took some longer to get to the same point as the enlightened 8)
Oh lord its double chewkw time
I like Chewkw - an advert for why Brexit is idiocy.
I suspect I’m going to like Ling on the same basis.
PS - if it helps the Scots invented the bicycle and they voted remain.
Don't let the EU ruin it.
I could go into the reasons why your chopper picture isn't what you think it is, and why [b]UK legislation[/b] has changed it from the original 70's version, but 1. you wouldn't care, and 2. I can't be arsed.
beside which that one is built in Taiwan, they seem to have ruined it without having to involve the EU