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I loved this comment about Panasonic moving
The company's UK HQ employs around 30 staff and around 20 of them will be expected to up sticks for the Netherlands or work remotely. Given that the company's HQ is currently in Bracknell, that's probably not so bad for the staff concerned. µ
https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3069630/sony-brexit-hq
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46946499
No one seems to be talking about the 10,000 people affected by this...
Given that the company’s HQ is currently in Bracknell, that’s probably not so bad for the staff concerned
Unless they're cyclists.
Goodbye Sony.
These loses will be so frequent as not to be newsworthy soon.
Sony and Panasonic have been very heavily cutting jobs for around 20 years, so why are you only just saying goodbye heaven's knows.
because this time its as a result of a specific & deliberate event
They're not cutting jobs though are they?... they're moving them elsewhere. Not the far east, not outsourcing to India or Eastern Europe but to another country with a similar cost base to ours, that just happens to be IN the EU.
I would agree with the premise that you can't blame all bad news on Brexit, (JLR announcement looked like it was more to do with the slowdown in China for example) but in this case as far as I can see, Brexit is definitely to blame?
The point is that if things are already tough out there, then it isn't sensible to make things tougher still?
Surely this is just fake news from project fear.
Another great article by Finton O'Toole in the Irish Times
It is not just the economy, stupid – Brexit is about belonging
Difficult to argue with this:
There is a long-term crisis of belonging in the UK. Brexit is its most lurid symptom, but it is not a cure. Theresa May’s appeal to the “precious, precious union” is mere denial about the rise of English identity. The hard Brexiteers, under the cover of nationalism, want to unleash an even more virulent form of globalisation that will destroy what is left of working-class communities.
Dyson moving to Singapore...
Bastard.
Seriously?
Helped by the new EU:Singapore trade deal I suspect. After campaigning for us to tear up our current cake and eat it unmatchable bespoke arrangement with the EU.
What a grade A ****.
Goodbye P&O.
Goodbye Sony.
Goodbye Dyson.
Any more today…?
I think Ken looks to take a much closer look at those sat on the benches around him.
To be fair to Dyson only 2 people are moving. And they are planning a lot of investment in the UK.
Actually, I'm coming round to agreeing with Ken's position. IMHO we collectively are capable of giving our opinions but we clearly aren't qualified to make the final decision.
So I call upon Ken and his allies of all political persuasions to stand up and be counted to play the part of these much needed grown ups, before shouty Nige and his red faced mates damage us all.
I think Ken knows full well the shit-thick pig-ignorance sat around him, but its just a blatant dig at Farge innit? 😀
"To be fair" to Dyson… he's just doing what others are doing, and moving his HQ out of the UK, because this is now the wrong place to centre your operations if you are expanding and want known access to world markets.
NB @MrKennethClarke is a parody account. However, I think that approach is the right one. Parliament should MTFU and kill Brexit without coming back to us the great, ignorant unwashed.
Fake news then.
And what it would be best to happen seems, unfortunately, the least likely to happen option. Although, every time someone throws around the vague "civil unrest" threats, the more I think it should happen.
While Dyson isn't moving any jobs out of the UK (yet), he is insulating his company from the volatility of the UK's access to markets, the pound, taxes and potential trade wars. He argued for it, but isn't willing to let his company go through it, complete and utter arsehole.
You got it.
Dyson
complete and utter arsehole
Yep.
The delusion ‘out there’ is incredible, though. There are ‘educated’ people I know who are still saying “we can’t rule out No Deal as it’s all we’ve got to threaten ‘em with”. And Peter Lilley has written exactly that in the Graun today as well. With people like this in positions of power we are ****ed. The likes of Barnier must just be shrugging their shoulders. Sooner or later they will just say ‘**** off’ and see how you get on, and what’s more we are introducing a 20 year minimum period between leaving and applying to rejoin. Cheerio.
As with Redwood, Lilley was immediately pinged back in the late 80s and early 90s as a swivel-eyed moron by the likes of Spitting Image and HIGNFY. Big on ideology, small on intellect. Now these two are being marketed as some kind of sensible parental figures. They are both imbeciles and have shown themselves to be so on numerous occasions.
You only have to look at comments on the Beeb news website to realise how this fiasco happened. Idiots - the answer is idiots. They are everywhere - ready to be exploited by liars.
Dyson, un****ingbelievable!! Utter cockwomble
'Only 2-3% of our supply chain is in Europe' says the Dyson spokesman ( https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46962093)
Oh well at least it is good news that a no-deal won't affect Dyson much 🙂
Dyson is a******* utter ####. Seriously, totally unbelievable!!
has this been posted? ? Don't try and escape....
Dyson, un****ingbelievable!! Utter cockwomble
Only one error there. Totally ****ing believable because he is a Brexiteer with a brain cell or two. Therefore he must be in it for some kind of personal gain and be an utter hypocrite.
There are only two types of people who now believe in Brexit.
1. Exploiters who stand to gain personally (monetarily or politically or both).
2. Morons.
There are no exceptions to this now.
P&O are off, then this one.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46965761
Patisserie Valerie fall into administration in an example of how well Brexiteers can run companies.
Look on the bright side McLaren are staying in the UK....hurrah for millionaires
Who's Dyson?
Miles Bennet Dyson- Inventor of the Terminator
Dyson, no idea but sounds like a right sucker for project fear.
Dyson, no idea but sounds like a right sucker for project Sfear.
FTFY
poor ol' right wing press doesn't know if it's coming or going..... the express are now running this map as part of their no deal "project fear" vs the wondrous uplands of the maybots offering
makes the bus figure look like cracking value
Wonderful, do they feel a little threat to the triple lock and Spanish retirement?
Wow, guessing The Express is now run by the Elites that they have been warning about.😆
And they can't even spell annual... 🙂
Lol, didn't spot that!
Or Ireland
`Didn't spot that either! What a bunch of clowns!
That's £100m in corporation tax that Dyson is taking out of the country. He is an absolute cock.
Is it? What is the source for that? They have a huge presence in the south and a heap of work still going on here
No job loses caused by the hq move but as the hq is not in the UK now it won't be paying UK corporation tax.
Not defending him here but it doesn't mean all profits are routed off shore. Therefore there will still be tax payments, any decent business would have sorted out off shore profits by now anyway so not sure how much difference there will be.
However it does mean that having your HQ in the UK is not a smart move in a post brexit world, highlights what a shit head some of the leaders of leave are
highlights what a shit head some of the leaders of leave are
Just some? I haven't come across one that hasn't just been in it for themselves (their own company, their own wealth, their own twisted view etc,.)
The comments are glorious.
Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha
*Gasps for air*
Arrrrhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....
The gammon meltdown over Dyson is both very funny & very sad
Not defending him here but it doesn’t mean all profits are routed off shore. Therefore there will still be tax payments, any decent business would have sorted out off shore profits by now anyway so not sure how much difference there will be.
Telegraph reporting it will mean £10s of millions lost to treasury a year according to R4 paper review
**** them all Kimbers.
This has made my day, I might become a ****ing Buddhist now because clearly karma is real.
Much as I dislike reading the Fail and in full knowledge that it is frowned upon to link to it I feel compelled to mention this delightful summary of the Grieve and Cooper amendments in that article (my highlighting).
MPs Dominic Grieve (pictured left) and Yvette Cooper (pictured right) have revealed their plot to water down Brexit by tabling amendments which overturn over 100 years of Commons procedure to try to hijack the debate.
Hehe.
I feel dirty for clicking on that Daily Heil link but I'm surprised at the about of anti-brexit posts
dannyh
There are only two types of people who now believe in Brexit.
1. Exploiters who stand to gain personally (monetarily or politically or both).
2. Morons.
There are no exceptions to this now.
This. Squared.
Also surprised at the number of anti brexit posts in the heil, but the dark side is strong in many of them.
"its because he fears that brexit will be stopped!"
"its because of how hes been treated by the elites in the UK."
Priceless that they get to vote.
Scary that they might get on a jury someday.
Seriously - big business acting in their own (or shareholders) interests? Absolutely nothing new there
We've been on that trajectory for decades.
Did everyone go bonkers when he stopped making plastic vacs in the (2003) UK? Did you bring up the EU then? No we just said it was a commercial enterprise doing what it does to make more money.
Brexit is getting the rap for all things that pop off our shores which is exactly the perfect smoke screen for the race to the bottom we've been on since Thatcher started dismantling the state.
The fuss over Dyson is ludicrous in the grand scheme of things especially given his biggest market is the USA.
I'm more surprised by the dildos expecting some sort of loyalty!
That ship has sailed.
But Rone 10s of millions lost to the treasury means more austerity, I thought you were against that ?
The fuss over Dyson isn't due to Brexit in general or indeed about a greedy multinational looking after itself.
The fuss is about the level of drivel he has spoken about Brexit and how it is good for business in the UK. He's one of the few in business to come out in support.
It seems that he isn't willing to stay here with the rest of us and take a slice of the shit pie he helped promote. That's not surprising to most of us, but there are a whole load of folks who have put this guy's views forward as justification as to why "it'll be alright cos Dyson says so and he's a clever bloke right?"
So I am in agreement with ryanwomble... **** em all
rone,
Weird coincidence that hes moving things now eh?
If its "nothingtodowithbrexit" then why not wait a few months, and at least show support for his previous position?
Its almost like something big is going to happen that will be detrimental to his billions.
Exploiter or moron? Evidence is pointing only one way (one way for him, another for you).
I think I should withdraw from commenting for now, because I'm properly angry.
Brexit was a shit position, but at least it was a position.
Now it seems that all of the top brextards have not only served us a shit souffle "by accident" (if the reports yesterday about Cameron are to be believed), but day by day its becoming obvious that none of them actually believed in what they were shovelling.
Its exhausting.
Brexiters who took a big bite of the mystery souffle and swallowed it down should probably be angrier than the average remainer by now.
but day by day its becoming obvious that none of them actually believed in what they were shovelling.
Oh they believe in it just with a few minor amendments to who will benefit. Its just whilst there will be plenty of opportunity to profit it will be mostly for those outside the tent pissing in as opposed to the poor sods still inside.
Hence making sure they have an out.
Did everyone go bonkers when he stopped making plastic vacs in the (2003)
I wouldn’t say “bonkers” but yes, there was quite a bit of negative publicity towards him around then.
Did you bring up the EU then?
The word “Brexit” hadn’t even been coined.
No we just said it was a commercial enterprise doing what it does to make more money.
I’m sure I remember plenty more being said at the time.
Not that I expect corporations to act “morally”, but y’know, let’s not rewrite what happened.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46971390
What is wrong with the people in charge? Seriously - I don't think I have ever felt so lost & disillusioned with those in power.
Liam Fox = cockend
Imagine what his spitting image puppet would have been like!
We could do with that show back now f'sure
Did everyone go bonkers when he stopped making plastic vacs in the (2003) UK? Did you bring up the EU then?
Its worth noting part of his argument for moving manufacturing out of the UK was because the UK hadnt joined the Euro.
We could do with that show back now f’sure
Sattire is dead. Spitting Image would now be seen as fly-on-the-wall observation. Armando Iannucci is taking time off because he said nothing he could come up with would appear as absurd as the reality we are faced will!
Satire may be dead, but we're even lacking in jokes.
I've been watching the Late Show with Stephen Colbert on youtube. At least the 'merkins have something to help them laugh at dumpster fire while it consumes them.
Also, on a more serious note, they also have a judicial system that remains somewhat independent of political power and is prepared to investigate foreign influence and money.
I think it is difficult to see any humour in this at the moment, i used to love listening to the shows like The News Quiz on Radio 4, but even they are struggling to find anything funny in this. I think we are so far down the rabbit hole now, we can no longer see any light at the end, it has gone on for so long, and to know that it will go on for years yet suppresses any optimism.
The only positive i think from all of this, is that it has been great for a Facebook "friends" cull, slightest whiff of being a Leaver, and off they go......
We can laugh at their incompetence, inconsistency & lies. Its better than taking them seriously and listening to them like adults with justifiable sensible opinions. People recommending "no deal" should be in residential care not in TV studios with presenters nodding along encouragingly.
Tapes of brexiters saying "only an idiot would leave the single market" should be shown every time they pop up to justify setting fire to our collective trousers and running way.
We're surrounded by lying clowns and we're still taking them seriously through habit.
Laughter is the best disinfectant*
*I can think of**.
**That doesn't involve public execution.
Brexiters who took a big bite of the mystery souffle and swallowed it down should probably be angrier than the average remainer by now.
Sadly I feel many are so deluded they still believe the bullshit.
But there simply isn't the time to laugh at it all properly. Gone are the days when anything stands out for being utterly ludicrous. Redwood's miming to the Welsh Anthem just wouldn't be as surprising now. And loads of ministers escape censure because - there's always Grayling.
I don't think the majority of people would 'get' Spitting Image now - they'd just sit there going "cor, look at the silly face on that puppet, oooooh no a funnier one".
As an English man who moved to Wales not long before that, I can't even hear Redwood's name without that image coming to mind. Hilarious then, but utterly appalling now, given where he is and what he's doing/done...
For the benefit of .. just rone I guess .. all quiet on the brexshit carousel?
Here is some reading;
"Here are 180 factual, fully-sourced examples of the impact Brexit is already having on the UK. Jobs going, investment drying up, companies moving assets to the EU, or redomiciling. All happening as Government burns through £billions chasing a no deal Brexit it doesn't have to"
From Edwin Hayward on Twitter.
Yep, when you think of all the cabinet ministers that would have been the most incompetent, most untrustworthy and most punchable in practically any previous cabinet, it's downright bizarre. Grayling doesn't even make the top 5 and that makes no sense at all.
am more disturbed pets at home are stockpiling catfood.....is a story
am more disturbed pets at home are stockpiling catfood…..is a story
It's even more of a story when you discover that there's a cat food curry recipe in HM Govs No Deal re-release of the Protect & Survive leaflet.
(may be fake news 😉 )
The page after that is a cat curry recipe, for when you run out of cat food.
am more disturbed pets at home are stockpiling catfood…..is a story
Especially as the majority of cats voted for Leave which wasn't surprising given their self serving nature.
typical brexiteer, clearly wanted to have his cake and eat it...
https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1088010504650588160
That will learn em for givin there shop a forren name.
JRM currently doing a Facebook livestream if anyone wants to heckle
Oh wow - sorry didn't realise it would post a live video of him...
The fuss over Dyson isn’t due to Brexit in general or indeed about a greedy multinational looking after itself.
The fuss is about the level of drivel he has spoken about Brexit and how it is good for business in the UK. He’s one of the few in business to come out in support.
It seems that he isn’t willing to stay here with the rest of us and take a slice of the shit pie he helped promote. That’s not surprising to most of us, but there are a whole load of folks who have put this guy’s views forward as justification as to why “it’ll be alright cos Dyson says so and he’s a clever bloke right?”
This.
Maybot had a point today on PMQ comrade of the house will sit with the IRA but not have a serious conversation with her
No we just said it was a commercial enterprise doing what it does to make more money.
You may have done, I certainly didn't buy his bullshit excuses. Funny how Miele can afford to manufacture in Germany...