Out of interest,, what is a remainder. - a residual left over from the main calculations?
Probability
Must remove the Freudian setting from my autocorrect
😀 I can't talk 😉 my failing eyesight and apple autocorrect on small screens is a recpie for bed seplling.
Yes, and despite what the papers and nutters will claim, this isn't vindictiveness - they have no choice
Def...have to protect the interests of the majority.
Donald Trump is praising Liam Fox this morning. So that's all good
Looks like we can look forward to a trade deal involving accepting chlorine washed chicken, hormone injected beef, GM crops, the opening up of the NHS to American healthcare companies, and god only knows what else
Hurray for Taking Back Control
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Looks like we can look forward to a trade deal involving accepting chlorine washed chicken, hormone injected beef, GM crops, the opening up of the NHS to American healthcare companies, and god only knows what else
Fast track desperation deals, winner winner probably not a chicken dinner.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40703369 ]the omnishambles rumbles on[/url]
THM regularly cites Portugal as an example of a country that has suffered from the Euro. As we don't have a point of comparison I question that conclusion, however: Portugal has been treated very badly by the ECB, IMF and Germany through the refusal of Eurobonds. I think they'd have had even less help and even higher interest rates with a national currency but the point is mute.
Despite that Portugal has stabilsed debt and is growing. The last things they want are Britian running away from its share of EU debt and Britain as a low-cost tax haven a few kms from mainland Europe sucking money out of the country. All they really want are tourists and customers for their fine wines, foods. So they'll be more than happy to offer freedom of movement but beyond that you can expect resistance.
I see we are all still making it up to suit. What I'd like to know is are we doomed so should cancel my Christmas party or are we on the road to nirvana?
Klunk, the BBC article only tells half the vets in abattoirs story. Qualifications aren't fully harmonised across the EU. It's much harder to become a vet in the UK or a ski instructor in France than a Vet in eastern Europe or a ski instructor in the UK.
British abattoirs employ euro-vets with much shorter training periods behind them than the five-six years required in the UK and accept correspondingly lower wages.
So the BBC article completely misses the point that the abattoirs are benefitting from EU social dumping and a lowering of standards when Brexit is all about Britian profiting from such abuses.
What I'd like to know is are we doomed so should cancel my Christmas party or are we on the road to nirvana?
Depends on how tight you are on your monthlies really
It's much harder to become a vet in the UK or a ski instructor in France than a Vet in eastern Europe or a ski instructor in the UK.
To practice in the UK you have to be a member of the RCVS so they regulate who can or can't be a vet in the UK.
What I'd like to know is are we doomed
No.
so should cancel my Christmas party
No.
or are we on the road to nirvana?
No.
I should be talking about OVs (ooficial veterinarians).
the road to nirvana
A strange Talking Heads -v- The Cult mash up
Well worth reading for those who still believe that leaving the EU is a good thing and that we will get a deal that is good for the UK
But of ocourse the writer is and expert and we know what the tories think of experts who have knowledge that disproves their predjudices
I’ve said elsewhere that, in my view, the chances of getting any deal, let alone a good deal, in the limited time available look minimal. Brexit would have been a terrible idea even if done as well as possible, but for the Government to blithely march the country towards consequences that they don’t even themselves understand is an appalling dereliction of duty.This expert believes that this needs to be stopped, and soon. Then again, we already know they don’t like experts.
Steve Bullock worked at the UK Representation to the EU from 2010-2014 where he negotiated several EU regulations for the UK in EU Council working groups.
I was just about to post that TJ.
Me too, quite scary really.
Yes, and most of this was obvious at the time of the vote to anyone who took the trouble to be reasonably well informed.
Perhaps they did - who knows? Or are you suggesting that brexies were all incapable of making informed decisions?
Great article highlighting the myopic nature of Brexsti reporting. No attempt at balance eg, could easily have read sleezy jets latest results to see how they have responded, and implications for ownership, activities and UK jobs. But alas.....doesn't make for sensational headlines.
Pound at 1.308 up again - don't city folk listen to the slashers at the IMF
jambas you missed the most important bit from Gardiner yesterday
Labour must evince* a positive vision for our country outside the EU
* is he related to Jacob?
thecaptain - MemberYes, and most of this was obvious at the time of the vote to anyone who took the trouble to be reasonably well informed.
Yup - more of what we predicted and got called remoaners for coming true.
Oh look - more evidence of the brexit disaster. NHS posts remaining unfilled - dovetails nicely with the 95% drop in EU professionals coming to work in the UK. Those missing EU professionals would have filled much of this gap - not that thats any reason not to train our own people.
They'll have to put wages up then.
Isn't that exactly what outers wanted?
Apparently low wages are no disincentive to work in the NHS - nor is cutting support for students according to the tories. Meanwhile apparently we have to pay huge salaries in other professions to attract talent.
Yes and it will all be paid for by a shake of the magic money tree
And again... bravo
The pound is unchanged against the Euro as I type, THM. We're looking at dollar weakness on most crosses rather than pound strength. [url= https://www.onvista.de/devisen/ ]Currencies[/url]
Don't spoil his spinning with facts edukator!
The Euro is now up on the pound:
EUR/USD +0.43%
EUR/GBP +0.05%
GBP/USD +0.37%
Indeed Ed you prove my point.
Currencies are not being driven by Brexshit despite the attempts of [s]remoaners[/s] those who cannot accept the result to twist every bit of news
Draghis comments moved the €
The BoE is having a mini fight in public - Carney v Haldane
The death of the reflation trade is killing th $
£ is at/ near a high for the year v $ - not bad for a basket case
None are driven by Brexshit - although £ move is behind the mini BoE fight
So the spinners have to spin. It's a parody of the Brexshiteers pre vote but on steroids
Looking at one day I agree with your analysis THM. However, looking at the last 18 months, all the media sources agree that Brexit caused the pound to fall substantially against against the Euro and a wider basket of currencies - and it hasn't happened yet.
It did indeed. I have stated that many times. It's one of the real effects as opposed to the made up ones
We should stick to those
Day to day currency fluctuations are hardly the point.
Agreed nor are sensational press cuttings. That's the whole point
[quote=teamhurtmore ]£ is at/ near a high for the year v $ - not bad for a basket case
$ is weak, £ took the Brexit hit before the start of this year. Even basket cases sometimes become slightly less of a basket case. But then you know that.
[quote=teamhurtmore ]Perhaps they did - who knows? Or are you suggesting that brexies were all incapable of making informed decisions?
Of course not. Though it seems likely that the majority of them were uninformed (or deliberately misinformed, that was after all the methodology of the Leave campaign). I suspect Brexiteers who made an informed decision have rather different motives to most people.
The only brexies I know are not incapable of making informed decisions, but they did not bother to inform themselves as they honestly did not care about the negative consequences. Being reasonably well-off OAPs they have nothing much to worry about on that front (their local NHS isn't even much dependent on immigrant labour from what I've seen).
Where do we reckon BMW will.choose to build their electric mini now that we have ruled ourselves out with Brexshit - Portugal, Brazil, South Africa, Cumbernauld?
Where do we reckon BMW will.choose to build their electric mini now that we have ruled ourselves out with Brexshit - Portugal, Brazil, South Africa, Cumbernauld?
Depends on what Brexit means, power train is German and assembled in Cowley until the current model is EoL. means more of the car is now German than before.
Gives BMW 4-5 years until they have to make a decision. Making the powertrain in Germany and keeping all the R&D there makes sense. using the Cowley line makes sense.
Cowley??? Oxfordshire???? You're pulling my leg.....
C'mon why would they do that? Be real....
Jamba - I noted that 80% of Labour members wish to remain in the EU in some form (single market, customs union etc) and you responded thusly...
jambalaya - Member
@igm Labour membership is just a fraction of their voters though. Ghe manifesto was pretty clear and in the past few days Corbyn and Gardiner have cleared things up further
Which is fair enough.
Turns out 66% of Labour voters currently want to remain entirely in the EU.
The will of the people is to remain (currently, one can treat 23/06/16 as history now) and political vengeance will be visted on those who ignore the will of the people. 😉
Gardiner and Corbyn must be shaking in their boots then? How can they be so out of touch?
Both leaderships seem out of touch with their party / support on Brexit to me.
But then I would say that.
Anyway, enough of this uncertainty, let's get on with the will of the people and #ExitBrexit
Here's a smiley for the Brexies 😉
FT rightly castegates the Labour position this morning and rips Corbyn's positioning apart - ignorance or dogma is their assertion.
His interview with Marr - disastrous...as Icelanders were tweeting..."this is news to us Mr. Corbyn"
His language this week - "...central European migrants..."
He and McDonnell are beginning to believe their own hype. As with many, hubris may well be their downfall. There is a tide among younger Corbynites that's ever so slowly changing.
Gardiner and Corbyn must be shaking in their boots then? How can they be so out of touch?
They same way as all the others in their position throughout history.
