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I bet a sizeable portion of leave voters didn't even know who Juncker is. More than 2% at any rate.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 1:01 am
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Posted : 21/03/2017 1:30 am
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LOL


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 1:34 am
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There are rules for fruit and veg quality classification, and one of them says for the top grade that fruit must be of acceptable visual quality or something like that.

Feast your eyes on this for a massive crock of bollocks:

[url= http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:32011R1333 ]Jesus wept![/url]


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 3:01 am
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I bet a sizeable portion of leave voters didn't even know who Juncker is.

Ooh, I know!

He's that indefensible morally corrupt bent bastard that stole taxes from the EU by letting big business pay peanuts to his own country, whilst promising to do the exact opposite and probably lining his own pockets at the same time.

He's a ****ing snake.

Allegedly.

Sorry, scratch that; I voted to remain.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 3:17 am
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Sbob - having written the odd (company) standard and read many of all types, I've seen a lot worse than that. Most of it is really just "must be if merchantable standard and traceable" - and then trying to define what those terms mean.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 7:25 am
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its my the right as an Englishman to buy a banana of any curvature that damn well pleases me

even if said bananas are now more expensive thanks to Brexit

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39337909


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 10:57 am
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Bananas can now be cheaper as the bendy ones won't be being binned. 🙂


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 11:42 am
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Yeah its all the EUs fault that we waste so much food

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thats not per head

so germany which has 15% more peopel than us does better than that

france and italy have similar population sizes to us, but the Dutch have a quarter of our population so they are the worst


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 11:59 am
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I have more issue with the colour. They're an unpatriotic fruit. If we'd have had red, white and blue bananas earlier, then maybe we wouldn't be having a red, white and blue brexit now.

Makes you think....


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 12:02 pm
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as we go back to Britania of yore they will become very rare any way, unless we plan to retake the colonies...


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 12:04 pm
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I think that is actually the plan


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 12:05 pm
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One of my pet theories on Brexit is the myth that we are "special" because we were the **only European country that "won" both World Wars, by which I mean we ended up on the right side and weren't invaded. I also think this experience explains the tighter Eu cohesion amongst the mainland EU countries.

** yes I realise there are others such as ROI, and the UK contributed massively but the USSR and USA made Nazi defeat possible. Brexiters don't think that hard. We're special and they owe us. Got it?


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 12:06 pm
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You can get red or pink bananas, also bluey green and even purple. And they are white in the middle. So they might be a bit patriotic.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 12:09 pm
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even if said bananas are now more expensive thanks to Brexit

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39337909
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More BBC bias 😉

Meanwhile in la la land.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39335904

Everyone from Jambalaya to the 72 are getting their excuses in early it would seem.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 12:10 pm
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Just had a thought. Red, white and blue brexit - that means our terms will be dictated by the French, Dutch, Czechs, Croats, Luxembougers and Slovenians.

It's a comspiracy!


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 12:12 pm
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The whole straight banana thing was made up by boris johnson when he was a journalist covering europe

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It was.

EU actually says -
bananas must be free from malformation or abnormal curvature of the fingers

Also the most superior of bananas must have no defects in shape.
We wouldn't want that would we children?
Oh no, we want the best bananas, and all bananas to be the best.
A superior race of bananas if you will, all defective bananas to be destroyed, or fed to the pigs.

Sound familiar?

'Cause that's what happens when you let Fritz hold the reigns. My poor Grandfather would be turning in his grave, which should have been in his country of birth but not content with letting Hermann trample all over it, the allies saw fit to give it to those Russian savages.

Juncker? Junkers more like. I know when I can smell the Boche. Have you even been to Luxembourg? Even Edinburgh is more ethnically diverse.
Angela Merkel? German.
Martin Schulz? German.
Even their names line up, totally uniform. A uniform probably stitched together by our friend Hugo.
I see Schulz has unashamedly handed over to one of his old allies, no surprise there. Mind you, apart from one token ineffectual green, the only other candidates were Italian and Belgian, and it was always going to go to of Junkers boys anyway.

Sod all that though. I'm off to eat an apple. From Britain. Definitely not Chile.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 12:47 pm
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Yeah its all the EUs fault that we waste so much food

Sod off with your strawman lest I burn it down, reminiscent of 304 squadron's sortie over Rotterdam.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 1:00 pm
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Camping in France

I went shopping and was impressed at the non uniformity of the veg in the local Spa

Feeling the heady excitement as a stranger in a strange land, liberated from the uniformity of sainsburys and tescos I bought the wonkiest, most malformed red and green peppers in the shop.

Back at the campsite we prepared our standard budget mtbing meal of chorizo, pasta, tomatoes and peppers only to find that both peppers were mishapen because some insects had laid a load of grubs/eggs inside them.

laesson learned, only buy straight fruit & veg


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 1:01 pm
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Sbob - having written the odd (company) standard and read many of all types, I've seen a lot worse than that. Most of it is really just "must be if merchantable standard and traceable" - and then trying to define what those terms mean.

Yeah, but it doesn't even manage that, and it doesn't even cover all bananas!
I'm going to wibble into a greengage.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 1:02 pm
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Sod all that though. I'm off to eat an apple. From Britain. Definitely not Chile.

Do it while you can, British produce will be going up in price quickly so it'll either be exported for "hard currency" or replaced by cheap to harvest wheat.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 1:07 pm
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lesson learned, only buy [s]straight fruit & veg[/s] booze and fags from Spar

🙂


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 1:09 pm
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Do it while you can, British produce will be going up in price quickly so it'll either be exported for "hard currency" or replaced by cheap to harvest wheat.

I assure you my Cox's Pippin will be unchanged in price. 😀


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 1:13 pm
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You'll be exporting them to pay for shoes.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 1:20 pm
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Has ths bin dun yit

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Posted : 21/03/2017 1:32 pm
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so Germany which has 15% more peopel than us does better than that

Doesn't Germany (like many EU states) levy VAT on food though? So does the graph just show that where food is cheap relative to disposable incomes there is more waste?


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 1:44 pm
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[i]Doesn't Germany (like many EU states) levy VAT on food though? So does the graph just show that where food is cheap relative to disposable incomes there is more waste? [/I]

TBH a more likely reason is how it's measured and reported - I mean seriously, do you know what percentage of food is throw away in your household?


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 2:10 pm
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So its now been asked in parliament whether laundered Russian money helped fund Brexit or Trump campaigns

So far no indication that they did , only the Front National is known to have received money this way.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 2:27 pm
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So its now been asked in parliament whether laundered Russian money helped fund Brexit or Trump campaigns

So far no indication that they did

Is there any indication that Juncker personally gained from allowing big business to avoid billions in corp. taxes?


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 2:30 pm
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Is there any indication that Juncker personally gained from allowing big business to avoid billions in corp. taxes?

no idea, I imagine so

but Ill bet that junker being rich didnt please Putin half as much as Nigel Farage & the Brexiters achieving exactly what he wanted them to....


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 2:32 pm
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@cheddar. Correct Germany and most EU states have VAT on food and full rate VAT on gas/electric too. They tried a few years ago to "harmonise" VAT ie get us to charge it too.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 2:58 pm
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Junker definitely benefitted personally via a successful carear and then EU Commission President Role (€500k pa less only 10% tax and a €500k refirement present. Plus generous pension, his pension from just his time as President is €50k pa and he's only had the job 5 years). All of those things he would have been unikley to land without his "hugely successful" period turning Luxembourg into the EU's richest nation.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 3:02 pm
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Kimbers, cleaning up STW towers earlier...

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Posted : 21/03/2017 3:09 pm
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Kimbers, cleaning up STW towers earlier...

Its Ok I think 6jobs Osborne is also quite legit


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 3:46 pm
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http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/england-s-idea-of-unionism-is-not-shared-in-the-rest-of-uk-1.3017660#.WNDBUzUU194.twitter

another look at brexit and scottish independence.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 4:21 pm
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Sooohh.. how is going for you working poor brexit voters? Life's getting expensive, interest rates in the way up, inflation outpacing wages, cheap food disappearing.

Still never mind we might be getting border control back, Loads of jobs in the NHS, picking veg in Cambridge, Amazon warehouse. You wanted the 1950s and you are sure as shit going to get em.

I could hardly stop laughing watching the news today, anyway have to go now as I will be adding £100 a day to our day rate - it's Brexit don't you know, what can we do I have managed to keep it down to a 10% rise.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 4:35 pm
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Just looking at those food waste figures.
I went to Eurostat to get the UK figure and it said 14.3 million tons. The UK population is 64.1 million. That works out at 220kg of waste per person per year - 4.2kg per person per week!!!!! WHAT?

The last time I wasted ANY food was Christmas after too many whiskeys. Even then it wasn't a complete waste, I had eaten and enjoyed it first.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 4:37 pm
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Just looking at those food waste figures.
I went to Eurostat to get the UK figure and it said 14.3 million tons. The UK population is 64.1 million. That works out at 220kg of waste per person per year - 4.2kg per person per week!!!!! WHAT?

The last time I wasted ANY food was Christmas after too many whiskeys. Even then it wasn't a complete waste, I had eaten and enjoyed it first.

Remember that figure includes all wastage- production, processing, transit, and disposed-of-unsold, which iirc the uk is a world leader at. Household waste only makes up about half.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 4:44 pm
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You can get red or pink bananas, also bluey green and even purple[/I]

Purple Bananas?

Shirley you jest?


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 4:57 pm
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Loads of jobs in the NHS

You forgot there won't be an NHS, bit socialist you see, in the new red tape free red white and blue brexit world it is simply a un-necessary burden,


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 5:20 pm
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@slow Sweden has less "waste" as they burn everything* generating heat/energy so it counts as recycling

*everything is an exaggeration but the point stands

Inflation has been below target for 3.5 years, a period above seems only normal.

@kimbers FN borrow money from Russian banks as all the French banks refuse to deal with them for political reasons. Russia is not "giving money" to FN. Asked a question in Parkiament how gloriously vague and open to abuse that it is. just like a newspaper headline with the word "could" or a big number with "up to" written in front of it.

@sbob did you hear about Schultz .. hired his German mate as an advisor, worked in Berlin for 18 months but claimed a daily allowance of €300+ as his normal place of work was Brussels. Just another day on the EU gravy train.


 
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You forgot there won't be an NHS, bit socialist you see, in the new red tape free red white and blue brexit world it is simply a un-necessary burden,

Of course, only the EU member states have public health services. They don't exist anywhere else in the world.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 5:43 pm
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Of course, only the EU member states have public health services. They don't exist anywhere else in the world.

It's not about Brexit, it's about who Brexit has put in charge and their feeling they can do what they like.

And if Scotland/NI leave, they will. Likely they will anyway.

(Oh and affordability after the economy is shafted).


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 6:04 pm
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@sbob did you hear about Schultz .. hired his German mate as an advisor, worked in Berlin for 18 months but claimed a daily allowance of €300+ as his normal place of work was Brussels. Just another day on the EU gravy train.

Yes I did, but it's ok as I'm sure he paid (the special EU employee reduced rate) tax on it.
I'm just astounded at the total lack of interest in doing anything other than praising the EU; there's no criticism at all.
Leaves a horrible taste of "dear leader" in the mouth.


 
Posted : 21/03/2017 6:29 pm
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I'm just astounded at the total lack of interest in doing anything other than praising the EU; there's no criticism at all.

The EU has plenty of flaws, it's blind to how 'freedom of movement' is redefined as 'immigration' to many in this country, Juncker certainly comes over high and mighty and didn't help the campaign I feel.

But all human enterprises are flawed. Fundamentally it's a good thing, it's helped western Europe to unparalleled prosperity and to sustained peace for 70 years. This has never happened before. Never. Happened. Before. Previously, nationalism cost millions of lives.

The UK is (was) a dominant player in the EU, we should be in it striving to fix it not leaving it in a huff. Leaving is idiocy.


 
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