The BritLand govt asked me to vote so I vote. Simple.zippykona - Member
Chewk, do you feel it morally fair that you can vote in our elections?
It would be morally wrong not to oblige the demand of the Queen's govt. 😆
What for? Commonwealth nations do not meddle with your affairs unlike the EU ZM bureaucrats.Why Farage isn't campaigning to get us out of the commonwealth I don't know. Freedom to come here and meddle in our affairs can't be right.
i wish no harm to anyone , so i hope when the right wingers you have unleashed realise that the EU is not the root of their problems , and they come after any kind of foreigners , you have your piece of paper in your pocket to explain to them you are in the uk legally .
captainsasquatch - Member
We have many S.Korean etc setting up 2nd home there ...
So it's globilisation that you don't like, even though you're taking advantage of it.
FkedUp
They are S.Korean. We like S.Korean.
Because they don't swamp us like our neighbouring countries do ... we don't like them but there is nothing we can do because our Mus-lamic govt keeps giving them citizenship because of their "Mus-lamic" brother/sisterhood. Their combine population is about 350 million ... we are only 5 million in North Borneo.
Chewkw - if you are telling the truth, then sadly cchris is right. You have sown the wind.
You are going to need all the friends you can find when the racists come for you. Brexit was act one. The racists are coming.
I truly wish you no ill. And I suspect the vast majority of the remainers are in the same place. Less so the Brexies, though even there not all are racist.
Does anyone else think it's odd that non uk passport holders can vote in our elections?
Not a dig at Chewk as I've always known that Eire citizens can vote here I didn't realise it was commonwealth as well.
My business is in Sutton borough, I pay my rates to Sutton borough, I employ people from Sutton borough but I have no say about what goes on as I live in Epsom.
cchris2lou - Member
i wish no harm to anyone , so i hope when the right wingers you have unleashed realise that the EU is not the root of their problems , and they come after any kind of foreigners , you have your piece of paper in your pocket to explain to them you are in the uk legally .
Not sure what you are trying to say but I feel perfectly welcome here.
Back home we carry ID card everywhere regardless of who you are. If a person cannot show their ID they get arrested instantly. That is our way of life so what paper are you talking about that is such a big deal? Carry what paper here? 😆
Not sure what you are trying to say but I feel perfectly welcome here.
Then why did you try to break it. You have my pity.
Does anyone else think it's odd that non uk passport holders can vote in our elections?
Not really, no. Different immigrants are given different levels of access to UK legislation, so if chewkw has the required documentation then I have no problem. Other immigrants are restricted in what they are allowed to do, probably inline with UK residents moving abroad.
I have a small problem with him demanding that we bow down to some entity or another though. It's like some form of religious cult at times. 🙄
Switzerland is in all sorts of shit over their referendum. Trying to cook up some way of pretending to adhere to the spirit of it while actually still keeping freedom of movement. Current idea seems to be that all jobs have to be advertised in Switzerland (ie not purely overseas). Big deal.
igm - Member
Chewkw - sadly cchris is right. You have sown the wind.
You are going to need all the friends you can find when the racists come for you. Brexit was act one. The racists are coming.
Coming for me? Are you kidding? 😆
We are bought up in that sort of condition and much worst. Our government discriminates people as a way of life. It is the norm over there. Race and religion are seen as one and if we don't belong to their definition we are legally discriminated even when we are citizen.
Religious hate preachers from other part of the world are more welcome than us.
zippykona - Member
Does anyone else think it's odd that non uk passport holders can vote in our elections?
Not a dig at Chewk as I've always known that Eire citizens can vote here I didn't realise it was commonwealth as well.
Give you a hint. Don't keep banging on this point because all commonwealth citizens will consider you views as not different from the racist you are opposing. Trust me. You sounded like one absolutely. You may not feel it but we see that coming instantly.
Yep Capt. Tying themselves in knots.
Coming for me? Are you kidding?
Nope. It won't be legal discrimination we are talking about. More the illegal sort.
We are bought up in that sort of condition and much worst. Our government discriminates people as a way of life. It is the norm over there. Race and religion are seen as one and if we don't belong to their definition we are legally discriminated even when we are citizen.
Wouldn't you like to break that? Prove to them that you are equal, thatbyou shouldn't be discriminated against? I don't undestand why you want to perpetuate this bullshit. You do it through humour, but it's discrimination against you and it's not funny, or normal.
igm - Member
Not sure what you are trying to say but I feel perfectly welcome here.
Then why did you try to break it. You have my pity.
Not me. You did. 😆
Most foreigners are welcome to this country if they can jump through all the necessary hoops (rules etc) but you lot, the EU bureaucratic supporters, open the floodgate like diarrhea that cannot be stopped and in the process you have created problems for the legitimate foreigners.
You are better off blaming the EU bureaucratic utopians coz they spoil it for all of us.
Ya, nothing new I am afraid. Been there, done that and it is the norm and way of life for me. Been trained since kid. 😆igm - Member
Coming for me? Are you kidding?
Nope. It won't be legal discrimination we are talking about. More the illegal sort.
Not me. You did.
Wrong again. It's the Brexies that go wrecking without any concept of how to build a better future.
You will come to learn that though.
Ya, nothing new I am afraid. Been there, done that and it is the norm and way of life for me. Been trained since kid.
Well if that's what you want, enjoy the beatings the more extreme elements of the Brexy front will be handing out, at least we have the NHS to patch you up - if you make it to the hospital.
Like I say, you have down the wind.
The offer of a pint stands - though I suspect you don't exist. No one could be as foolish as you make out you are.
My suspicion is you are a Home Counties trustafarian with a chip on their shoulder a la Zac.
We've plenty of ideas, personally unshackling ourselves from the economic corpse which is the EU will be a good first step.
The challenge is huge but so is the opportunity. If we work together we can enable Britain to be one of the most successful countries of the 21st century. But there is a lot of work to be done to get there and we need to build the broadest possible coalition behind the Brexit process. Among other significant challenges, Brexit means:People who voted Leave and people who voted Remain coming together to find the best way forward.
Using all our people and resources to help us navigate through the most significant change to the UK’s economic, diplomatic and democratic arrangements in 40 years.
Engaging individuals and communities across the country with the Brexit process
Improving how our politics works so that the divide between voters and politicians – something the referendum exposed so starkly – is bridged, and the bond between the people and their government is irreversibly strengthened
Ending the free movement of people from the EU without denying our businesses with the skills and talent they need to grow.
As free movement ends, enabling EU nationals living and working in Britain to stay here and feel valued, and ensuring the same for UK nationals in EU countries.
Amending and incorporating large areas of EU regulation into UK law as UK legal supremacy is restored.
Identifying effective new funding formulas for agriculture, science, research and poorer regions and agreeing priorities for additional investment when the UK’s financial contribution to the EU budget ends.
Getting British businesses the best possible deal to sell goods and services into the Single Market
Negotiating new trade agreements with the world’s fastest growing markets
Redefining and strengthening our defence and security relationship with European nations and our NATO allies
Supporting EU nations to strengthen the European economy, meet environmental challenges together and manage migration flows on the EU’s borders
Learning to think globally, not just regionally
Most foreigners are welcome to this country if they can jump through all the necessary hoops (rules etc) but you lot, the EU bureaucratic supporters, open the floodgate like diarrhea that cannot be stopped and in the process you have created problems for the legitimate foreigners.
It's sad, and a bit naive, that you think like that.
Most West Indians were legitimately brought over here in the 50's for obvious reasons, ask them how they've settled in.
The Indians and ****stanis have legitimate claims, and they're a part of the fabric now, aren't they?
😥
captainsasquatch - Member
We are bought up in that sort of condition and much worst. Our government discriminates people as a way of life. It is the norm over there. Race and religion are seen as one and if we don't belong to their definition we are legally discriminated even when we are citizen.
Wouldn't you like to break that? Prove to them that you are equal, thatbyou shouldn't be discriminated against? I don't undestand why you want to perpetuate this bullshit. You do it through humour, but it's discrimination against you and it's not funny, or normal.
So idealistic, so naive ... 😆
Prove to who? What for? If people don't like me so be it coz I ain't going to change them. I Don't want to change them coz that is who they are. That is their identity. Just like you and who you are.
They change when they are ready and by themselves.
It is funny because you are more afraid than I do ... 😆
I don't travel half the world only to be frighten by such minor things in life put it this way. 😆
Problem is Jamba, if it had been 70-30 then I'd have said clearly I got this wrong, I should live with it.
But it wasn't. It was half and half, and as you know Brexy support is melting away. So this referendum will be unfinished business for years.
And that piece is political bullshit, isn't it. Could have been written by an idiot like Farage.
It is funny because you are more afraid than I do ... 😆
Neither through experience or through thought bro. I'm Welsh. 😉 The way that you react to it is quite telling though. 😆 And naff all to do with Brexshit.
Actually I found a bit I like
People who voted Leave and people who voted Remain coming together to find the best way forward.
Time to come together and scrap Brexit - agreed?
Like I said earlier, David Davis is starting to head that way. Time to encourage him.
igm - Member
Ya, nothing new I am afraid. Been there, done that and it is the norm and way of life for me. Been trained since kid.
Well if that's what you want, enjoy the beatings the more extreme elements of the Brexy front will be handing out, at least we have the NHS to patch you up - if you make it to the hospital.Like I say, you have down the wind.
Beating? Been there done that too as we used machetes back home. Plenty of gang or race fights back home too.
And chewkw - interesting that one with so few fears chooses to hide behind a keyboard. Says quite a lot.
back home too.
Interesting choice of words for a Brexy. Thought this was home - no? And did you explain to the immigration folks that you used machetes on people or were you just saying that for effect?
Come have a pint and let your anger go.
Beating? Been there done that too as we used machetes back home. Plenty of gang or race fights back home too.
#Boom
And chewkw - interesting that one with so few fears chooses to hide behind a keyboard. Says quite a lot.
I disagee and possibly quite the opposite in that the anonymity allows such bravado. Viva Gran bretana!
As a eu migrant I can vote for local elections but can't for general election. That is the rule and I am happy with it.
Switzerland is made of various cantons, they need immigration. A lot of people working in Geneva live in France. The boarders are open.
And they also need to keep their neighbouring countries happy, their banks like to be discreet and would not like someone looking too closely at their practices.
I disagee and possibly quite the opposite in that the anonymity allows such bravado. Viva Gran bretana!
Actually I don't think you do disagree or at least I agree with you.
Chewk, you aren't painting a very positive picture of north Borneo.
What was the main reason for you coming here? You seem to have been subjected to racial discrimination was that a factor for you?
Previously you have mentioned you are pro death penalty can I ask for what crimes ?
Indiscriminate use of machetes I'd say
captainsasquatch - Member
Beating? Been there done that too as we used machetes back home. Plenty of gang or race fights back home too.
#Boom
I am afraid that is Not your culture but ours so not really reflective of anyone apart from myself. 😆
Don't get me wrong we may wild back home (they don't call us wild men of Borneo for nothing) but I am certainly civilised in BritLand.
I can defend myself if I need to put it this way - no brainier really.
The only thing all of us cannot defend against is the ZM bureaucratic underhand tactics ... They will destroy you/us with their smiles thick rules.
Chewk, you aren't painting a very positive picture of north Borneo.
What was the main reason for you coming here? You seem to have been subjected to racial discrimination was that a factor for you?
Previously you have mentioned you are pro death penalty can I ask for what crimes ?
Probaly the best way in confronting someone who is used to playing with machetes is not confrontation, no?
I am afraid that is Not your culture but ours so not really reflective of anyone apart from myself.
Have we met? Are you really saying that unless that someone is from your culture that they can't understand your plight! Wake the coffee up shit fer!
The only thing all of us cannot defend against is the ZM bureaucratic underhand tactics ... They will destroy you/us with their smiles thick rules.
Are you not one of those yourself? In which case it's pretty easy to pull apart the stitches. 😆 😆 😛
I am afraid that is Not your culture but ours so not really reflective of anyone apart from myself.
You really are quite innocent in your way aren't you.
Read up on my home town's history. Glasgow if it helps.
Smile, loaf, but not kiss. Kiss is apocryphal.
igm - Member
Indiscriminate use of machetes I'd say
Not me but majority of my countrymen would use them to defend themselves against others ... tribal war etc and as farming tools put it this way.
zippykona - Member
Chewk, you aren't painting a very positive picture of north Borneo.
What was the main reason for you coming here? You seem to have been subjected to racial discrimination was that a factor for you?
Previously you have mentioned you are pro death penalty can I ask for what crimes ?
I am just telling you the non-touristic truth.
Ya, discrimination is amongst the factors but generally I just want to see the world. i.e. To see what big deal it is and perhaps settle down if I am happy with that location. Toon is fine so far.
Ya, I pro death penalty for crimes like murder mostly ... in my part of the world drug trafficking, drug pushing and murder. Not sure about treason ... I think it might be if justify.
Ya, I pro death penalty for crimes like murder mostly ... in my part of the world drug trafficking, drug pushing and murder. Not sure about treason ... I think it might be if justify.
Derek Bentley would like to shake your hand on ths, but he a can't due to an administrative error. Oops!
igm - Member
I am afraid that is Not your culture but ours so not really reflective of anyone apart from myself.
You really are quite innocent in your way aren't you.
Read up on my home town's history. Glasgow if it helps.
Not innocent but rather prefer to keep things simple coz life is already complicated as it is.
Ya, one of me colleague is from Glasgow so I shall ask him ...
Ya, Scottish people can fight coz it's in their blood. 😛
captainsasquatch - Member
Ya, I pro death penalty for crimes like murder mostly ... in my part of the world drug trafficking, drug pushing and murder. Not sure about treason ... I think it might be if justify.
Derek Bentley would like to shake your hand on ths, but he a can't due to an administrative eeror. Oops!
Life is cheap back home. Put it this way we are surrounded by 350 million people so we don't mess around ... whatever errors there may be and there are many (mostly political related) people just deal with it. They may be angry etc but people just move on.
Life is cheap back home.
Less cheap than here? What's your point?
How do you deal with the error? Me thinks that your drum banging here hasn't let you move on. 🙁
captainsasquatch - Member
Life is cheap back home.
Less cheap than here. What's your point?
I am saying that death penalty is the norm (for serious crimes) in that part of the world because that is the way they deal with serious crimes.
What error? There is no error. There cannot be error because the govt covers it in my part of the world.How do you deal with the error? Me thinks that your drum banging here hasn't let you move on.
Ya, Scottish people can fight coz it's in their blood.
Possibly. Maybe not. Who knows.
We do know a good deal when we see one. 1707 or June 23. And they're only talking about leaving the UK because they think it's going down the tubes (I don't by the way, not yet) and they can see a better deal.
Why do you think Nicola is trying to do a in UK and in EU post Brexit deal? Because Scotland would be minted in that scenario. Don't worry about the chances of it happening, it'd be worth trying whatever.
And trust me, Scotland can spot a good deal. The rest of the UK ought to take note.
I am saying that death penalty is the norm (for serious crimes) in that part of the world because that is the way they deal with serious crimes.
How do they deal with the miscarriages of justice? Or should we accept your (singular) view of justice over here?
Not a very good argument for leaving the EU if you ask me. #Cringe
I also tried to teach those stupid Frenchies (in spite of that Napoleon git) how to drive on the left, it didn't end well. 🙁
igm - Member
Ya, Scottish people can fight coz it's in their blood.
Possibly. Maybe not. Who knows.We do know a good deal when we see one. 1707 or June 23. And they're only talking about leaving the UK because they think it's going down the tubes (I don't by the way, not yet) and they can see a better deal.
Why do you think Nicola is trying to do a in UK and in EU post Brexit deal? Because Scotland would be minted in that scenario. Don't worry about the chances of it happening, it'd be worth trying whatever.
And trust me, Scotland can spot a good deal. The rest of the UK ought to take note.
Nicola is doing what Nicola does best as a politician.
Not innocent but rather prefer to keep things simple coz life is already complicated as it is.
That rather sounds like an excuse to put your head in the sand!
We've plenty of ideas, personally unshackling ourselves from the economic corpse which is the EU will be a good first step.
Crikey, that spiel of yours sounds an awful lot like you're proposing a union of sorts with Europe..
Oh..
When are you Breshitters going to wake up & smell the coffee & realise that what you want you've just flushed down the bog!
The deal you think you are going to get?
Not a chance, not this side of the Second Coming!
captainsasquatch - Member
How do they deal with the miscarriages of justice? Or should we accept your (singular) view of justice over here?
Err? Your justice so do as you like as I am not bothered. Keep whatever rights you like etc ... I am not bothered.
I just want the EU bureaucratic system dismantle and disappear forever.
Not a very good argument for leaving the EU if you ask me. #Cringe
I also tried to teach those stupid Frenchies (in spite of that Napoleon git) how to drive on the left, it didn't end well.
Nobody is talking about death penalty in Europe so you can sleep well.
