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Posted : 29/03/2017 9:17 am
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Anyone hear David Starkey on Radio 4 this morning?

Apparently Farage is a modern day Henry the VIII (in a good way), Nick Clegg should be quartered for treason and Brexit could be the start of the new British Empire.

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Posted : 29/03/2017 9:20 am
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Lets hope Royal Mail keep up their record for losing letters!!


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:20 am
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Petty, small-minded, xenophobic, foreigner-hating, backward looking, little-Englander nastiness

I have never felt so ashamed, embarrassed and saddened to be British. And angry. Really, really ****ing angry!!!

Agreed


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:23 am
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What search engine did you use to find those kimbers?? If they weren't the very first hit you found then they don't count apparently. 😉


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:23 am
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"* you you evil * bitch."

...and she's a remainer...


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:25 am
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She isn't a remainer or a leaver. She's a cynical opportunist who'll do whatever it takes to further herself, and **** everyone else. Typical Tory really.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:28 am
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Richard Dyson, one of the high profile Brexiteers (who has alot of his manufacturing made abroad and outside of the EU so a bit disingenuous really) is now appealing to Theresa May to not apply immigration limits to young European engineers so he can employ them in his business.

he's been wingeing like a bitch for years that government weren't doing enough to encourage manufacturing in this country. now the pound's on it's arse due to this government's direction of travel i am sure he'll be putting his money where his mouth is, expressing his gratitude, and providing well paid jobs to people in this country, rather than in his malaysia facilities. 🙄


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:28 am
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"She isn't a remainer or a leaver"

She's a remainer.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:28 am
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Is that White Cliffs pic a photoshop or did they really do it?


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:28 am
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Lots of anger here, and I share it.

Anger does not bode well for our future.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:30 am
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Well said Binners. A successful appeal to the lowest common denominator by a pack of absolute shithouses for which we all will bear the consequences.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:36 am
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I just heard a Welsh bloke on the radio who voted to leave blame Europe for crime and drug issues in Maesteg. WTF he then followed it up by saying that it was Carwyn Jones and Plaid who take all the money and spend it on Cardiff Bay.

I don't know how you discuss the truth with someone who is so misinformed.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:41 am
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I don't know how you discuss the truth with someone who is so misinformed.

And his vote counts the same as yours.

Which of course is "right", but ....

I'm stuck on this, what do we do?


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:43 am
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Petty, small-minded, xenophobic, foreigner-hating, backward looking, little-Englander nastiness

I have never felt so ashamed, embarrassed and saddened to be British. And angry. Really, really ****ing angry!!!

Agreed


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:54 am
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"what do we do?"

Never have referendums. Stick to representative democracy where you vote for people, who are responsible for policy rather than policy itself.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:55 am
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OOB - we've disagreed previously but that is spot on


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 9:58 am
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Lets all take a moment to reflect on the moron who's monumental arrogance delivered us here. Through an act of ill-conceived, short-sighted and short term political opportunism that went horribly wrong

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Anyone heard from him of late? No. Because like the other self-serving morons presently at the helm, they just saunter away, totally unaffected, from the car crashes they cause, leaving the little people to pick up the pieces


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 10:04 am
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Why is the bill taking us out called the 'Great' Repeal Bill? That makes it implicit that its something wonderful and I imagine in some quarters evokes stirrings to the strains of 'Land of Hope and Glory'.
Unless of course it means its simply very significant. 'Significant' Repeal Bill isn't quite as catchy I guess.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 10:10 am
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Binners + 48million.

The Morons have taken over.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 10:15 am
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Why is the bill taking us out called the 'Great' Repeal Bill?

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Posted : 29/03/2017 10:17 am
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Is that White Cliffs pic a photoshop or did they really do it?

[url= https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dover+and+out+the+sun&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjFxdGOsfvSAhXM0xoKHeutDNMQ_AUICigD&biw=1440&bih=839 ]Real I believe.[/url]


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 10:21 am
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LOL at Kimbers. Find it shocking to believe those 'Sun' projections are for real.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 10:27 am
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Bring back Great Britain.
Remember the London Olympics?
Feeling proud to be part of a welcoming, competitive, country?
I'm ashamed of the path we are going down.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 10:32 am
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"Bring back Great Britain.
Remember the London Olympics?
Feeling proud to be part of a welcoming, competitive, country?"

Are non-EU countries unwelcoming?

Can't say I've ever found that.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 10:38 am
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Anyone heard from him of late?

He is in the USA doing a speaking tour.
There are claims though he is being lined up for the Nato Secretary General.
I look forward to him arranging a referendum around membership of it.

Why is the bill taking us out called the 'Great' Repeal Bill?

Its taken from the representation of the people act 1832 aka the Great Reform Act to get the hope and glory singers singing away.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 10:40 am
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I've asked Brexies on here to tell us what they've been doing. The answer has been silence. Nothing. The Brexies are sat on their fat lazy behinds I think.

You asked me directly but then I voted to remain.

What job did you give up to embark on your current crusade?


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 10:42 am
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Bring back Great Britain.
Remember the London Olympics?
Feeling proud to be part of a welcoming, competitive, country?
I'm ashamed of the path we are going down.

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Are non-EU countries unwelcoming?

Can't say I've ever found that.

Who said that? I was saying that I feel we are no longer as welcoming as we were, and that this referendum and its aftermath are key to that. I feel a loss in pride for my country… "feelings" and "national pride" are important to those of us against what is happening now, it is not only of importance to people who want us to leave all the Europeon institutions and agreements.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 10:45 am
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and so it begins...

A monumental **** up, that is all this is.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 10:46 am
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Well this will please sbob, as the cult of Brexit demands complete supplication to its wondrous isolationism

I voted to remain, you 'tard.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 10:58 am
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What search engine did you use to find those kimbers?

You'll need to pick the fourteenth whist pretending not to notice the sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth and eleventh to be credible.
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Posted : 29/03/2017 11:07 am
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😀 How's the blame game going today peeps?

I'm so angry, I could crush a grape. 😳 ashamed and embarrassed indeed.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 11:34 am
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Blame game? No point playing a game when you know before the start who's going to win.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 11:36 am
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So today we become the nightmare neighbours from hell who leave junk in their garden and let their dogs shit on the pavements. Well done all.

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Sure thing Dazh, whatever you say.. sounds a little bit like a Daily Mail/Farage/Trump headline doughnut, oh well if you can't beat'em, join'em.

I'm gonna think about using caps lock in a frickin minute..aaarrrgghhh!


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 12:01 pm
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Another important step today towards a brighter and more prosperous future.

Cameron a believer in democracy, well if the Indy Ref had been a Yes he'd have been hailed as a hero North of the Border.

Finally we where given a direct say in our future and we rejected all the corruption and idiocy of the European Union superstate project


 
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Another important step today towards a brighter and more prosperous future.

Cameron a believer in democracy, well if the Indy Ref had been a Yes he'd have been hailed as a hero North of the Border.

Finally we where given a direct say in our future and we rejected all the corruption and idiocy of the European Union superstate project

Quote of the day.

But who is this 'we' you speak of Jam? 😉


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 12:06 pm
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Finally we where given a direct say in our future and we rejected all the corruption and idiocy of the European Union superstate project

Hurrah, British corruption and idiocy for all!


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 12:07 pm
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Just for you Jammers....

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Join in and wave your little flags 😆


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 12:09 pm
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We're all happy and united now, apparently.

What a crock.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 12:12 pm
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Day off, it's pissing it down, fits the mood completely.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 12:17 pm
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Do something positive today to make yourself better.

I took an old Buddleia to the dump.

Take that Brexiters.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 12:25 pm
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It was nice while it lasted. But then the freedom to have a more desperate labour pool, a dimmer future for our kids, and an outright neutering of our diplomatic soft power was too good an opportunity to pass up, I suppose.

What a silly island.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 12:27 pm
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I voted to remain, you 'tard.

Classy


 
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You OK Huns ?

xxxx


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 12:37 pm
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@jambalaya why do you think your POV is in such a minority here yet managed to secure an (albeit tiny) majority in the referendum? Serious question.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 12:39 pm
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Here is why... repeated across the UK

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39425373


 
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...Cameron a believer in democracy, well if the Indy Ref had been a Yes he'd have been hailed as a hero North of the Border...

For all that I think he's a peasant crushing born to rule upper class Tory turd, I'll give him his due for that referendum. Maybe not a hero though. 🙂


 
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Here is why... repeated across the [b]southern[/b] UK

Fixed it.

100% of the council areas in Scotland were a Remain vote.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 12:57 pm
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Here is why... repeated across the UK

Old people ignorant of the consequences of their vote, who expect the steelworks to come back?


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 1:02 pm
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They might come back. If our currency and living standards fall low enough, menial labour in the UK will become competitive again.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 1:14 pm
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"It suggests the model for the future could be a form of associate membership, currently enjoyed by Ukraine. "

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/29/first-eu-response-to-article-50-takes-tough-line-on-transitional-deal


 
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In 10 years time, as we race to the bottom, on the Chinese mountain biking website "Ringletrack" they'll be discussing whether those cheap look a like British frames are any good.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 1:20 pm
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"It suggests the model for the future could be a form of associate membership, currently enjoyed by Ukraine. "

just like putin planned 😉


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 1:23 pm
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Berenberg Bank comments:
[url= http://www.businessinsider.com/article-50-trigger-does-brexit-create-any-opportunities-for-the-uk-2017-3?IR=T&r=UK&utm_content=buffer92120&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer ]Brexit does not provide a single major opportunity to improve the UK economy in the long term[/url]

I think some of the doom and gloom is unwarranted though. It is all predicated on nothing changing.

There won't be an unlimited supply of cheap labour, so employers may find their hoped for race to the bottom with wages doesn't happen.

We are going to have to increase the number of skilled professionals by providing training here. No longer will we be able to strip mine poorer countries for them.

It will probably be very like the aftermath of a war. There will be an initial period where people will adjust, survive, and get used to England's new status as Trump's poodle.


 
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Molgrips is right if the £ achieves parity with the € and the $ and the Tories keep minimum wage/benefits static then 3 years down the line we have halved our labour cost base in real terms, mmmm make I should start looking for a sweat shop to purchase.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 1:41 pm
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"does not provide a single major opportunity to improve the UK economy in the long term"

So if anyone voted leave to try to slow urbanisation/growth they made the right call?


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 1:41 pm
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Classy

Brexshitting cockwombles
* you you evil * bitch
wingeing like a bitch
pack of absolute shithouses
self-serving morons

All taken from the same page as my post you quoted.
Now I doubt kimbers needs a white night, but I believe your steed is lame as judging by the above you've arrived a little late. 💡
🙄


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 1:53 pm
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I think some of the doom and gloom is unwarranted though. It is all predicated on nothing changing.

There won't be an unlimited supply of cheap labour, so employers may find their hoped for race to the bottom with wages doesn't happen.

We are going to have to increase the number of skilled professionals by providing training here. No longer will we be able to strip mine poorer countries for them.

Or companies move operations to countries where they can more reliably get the staff they need.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 1:59 pm
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"There won't be an unlimited supply of cheap labour,"

There will.

Importing workers isn't going away.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 2:03 pm
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The one thing this lot most definitely won't be doing is reducing the supply of cheap labour that their paymasters demand.

As this becomes glaringly apparent over the next couple of years, there are going to a lot of very unhappy racists!


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 2:07 pm
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there are going to a lot of very unhappy racists!

That might be the only good thing to come out of Brexit.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 2:10 pm
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Maybe we should cosy up to our non-EU neighbour Norway. Still, what they want with a bunch of knuckle draggers?


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 2:11 pm
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Maybe we should cosy up to our non-EU neighbour Norway. Still, what they want with a bunch of knuckle draggers?

Did they not already threaten to veto UK joining EEA?


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 2:13 pm
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Veto was on a large country joining EFTA, which makes sense given it is only small countries now. If we were to be part of EEA, but not in EU, we'd need a new way of doing so. No way back into EFTA realistically. Scotland on the other hand would be a very good fit with EFTA memership.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 2:18 pm
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"there are going to a lot of very unhappy racists!"

Why would a racist be unhappy at the continuation of a system that gives overwhelming priority to European Immigrants at the expense of people from different races?


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 2:24 pm
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Which system is that?

Most migrants into the UK are from non-EU countries, despite the UK being surrounded by EU countries.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 2:27 pm
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Anyone hear David Starkey on Radio 4 this morning?

Apparently Farage is a modern day Henry the VIII (in a good way), Nick Clegg should be quartered for treason and Brexit could be the start of the new British Empire.

Starkexit please.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 2:27 pm
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We are going to have to increase the number of skilled professionals by providing training here. No longer will we be able to strip mine poorer countries for them.

Where are the workers coming from? The UK currently has c5% unemployment, technology can replace some jobs, but, you can't make anyone into a brain surgeon, training is not the only issue, some people are more motivated, some are more intelligent.

There is also the issue that educational costs have rocketed, pricing out many

Next move onto the bit of a mess that is the NHS, it is going to take a decade to train a consultant, almost as long for nurses. So what do you propose today?


 
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Stark was so rude and arrogant this morning. A genuinely nasty man it seems.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 2:28 pm
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Stark was so rude and arrogant this morning. A genuinely nasty man it seems.

Agreed. A real paradox of a man.

Somehow I find him a bit of an entertaining side-show.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 2:35 pm
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...Next move onto the bit of a mess that is the NHS, it is going to take a decade to train a consultant, almost as long for nurses. So what do you propose today?

Part of the adaptation process. It's not going to happen overnight that's for sure, hence my description of it being like the aftermath of a war, perhaps one we lost.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 2:42 pm
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"Where are the workers coming from?"

...anywhere. Nobody is advocating becoming North Korea.


 
Posted : 29/03/2017 2:45 pm
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Next move onto the bit of a mess that is the NHS, it is going to take a decade to train a consultant, almost as long for nurses.

I think we're going to see a pretty massive shortfall in nurses, regardless of the actual final Brexit terms:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/01/25/number-eu-nurses-coming-uk-falls-90-per-cent-since-brexit-vote/ 😯


 
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Most migrants into the UK are from non-EU countries.

but it is still not as easy for non-EU migrants to get into the UK - currently there is discrimination in favor of the EU countries, so that in itself is rascist...


 
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Postman Tim.


 
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They might come back. If our currency and living standards fall low enough, menial labour in the UK will become competitive again.

Nicely sums up the STW attitude, describing steelworkers as "menial labour".


 
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Note which man looks apprehensive, and which one is smiling


 
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