Not offended. It's the tinterweb for goodness sake. And anyway I'm right.
Don't know about that judge comment though Chewkw. In most games, if you not being considered for top jobs by the time your 35 to 40 you're not going to make the top. So 35, yes it's young but it's not that young in the scheme of things. To be fair judges might generally be a little older than most.
My suspicion is if he was 35, it means he was / is good.
Buy the way haven't your views moved in 5 years! The stuff you posted about Egypt, not even half of the population. And now look at you.
they are indeed renowned for the way they climb to the highest echelons of British life. forget the bureaucrat maggots its those fencers we want to watch out for especially ex olympian ones.Yes, that ex-Olympic fencer
It's a coup. He'll be emperor and Bruce Dickinson will be his enforcer. SCREAM FOR ME!
Actually it was a controversial appointment apparently. Many judges (think it is that lot) objected but I guess not enough to overturn the appointment.igm - Member
To be fair judges might generally be a little older than most.
My suspicion is if he was 35, it means he was / is good.
Sorry man I cannot remember what I said about Egypt 5 years ago.Buy the way haven't your views moved in 5 years! The stuff you posted about Egypt, not even half of the population. And now look at you.
Something tell me that fencing is a sport taken up by mostly public school pupils ... am I right? A very posh sport, yes?Junkyard - lazarus
Yes, that ex-Olympic fencer
they are indeed renowned for the way they climb to the highest echelons of British life. forget the bureaucrat maggots its those fencers we want to watch out for especially ex olympian ones.
Okay, he is a judge who is good at sport.
Yes, the Iron Maiden bloke is a fencer too. 🙂Northwind - Member
It's a coup. He'll be emperor and Bruce Dickinson will be his enforcer. SCREAM FOR ME!
It is about applying common sense in law.
In many years of interacting with you in STW, I've never seen a semblance of common sense in what you've posted, Chewkw. Not even once. With all due respect (and the amount of respect you're due, Goering would be scornful of), you're talking out of your posterior.
Referendum is once in a life time.
demonstrateable crap, the last was 40 years ago. so not a once in a life time event.
All is not well in the Conservative this morning. A few seniors MP not happy at the way the High Court is being criticised in the press and by some people in Government.
The whole Brexit process is getting worse by the day .
The whole Brexit process is getting worse by the day .
No! It's getting better. You might have to squint to see it, but I'm sure it's getting better.
Sorry man I cannot remember what I said about Egypt 5 years ago.
Let me help you Chewkw, it was about given less than half the population wanted change, there should be no change.
Now I'm not sure I agree or disagree with you there, but that was your view.
do you just adopt the argument that suits you at the time, or do you show an honourable consistency of view like that ex-Tory who just resigned?
I disagree with him, but I respect his position.
Yeah an early election looking more likely, coz we need another round of bullshit campaigning mostly about Europe, and even more lies and division in the country 🙄
We need a unity party led by someone not involved in the Brexit shambles - is Tony doing anything?
That wasn't serious before someone goes off the deep end
Isn't that exactly what's he's up to?
So this morning our glorious leader is in India, preparing the path for a new trade deal. One of the things that India wants in return is 'more freedom of movement'.
And access to the single market via the UK.
5thE - yes. But come on seriously? Back in 97 I thought he was great, but he squandered his mandate, and took us into an unnecessary war (I'll leave debates on legality to others).
Brown on the other hand would actually be quite good in this situation. He was a manager not leader, by which I mean give him a clear goal and he was good at achieving it, but he wasn't good at setting the agenda.
So this morning our glorious leader is in India, preparing the path for a new trade deal. One of the things that India wants in return is 'more freedom of movement'.
Obviously. That was one of the key messages of brexit. Becoming international in outlook.
If we don't get the bulk of our immigrants from Europe it's pretty obvious they'll be coming from elsewhere.
Remain was (or should have been) the choice of the racist.
An unnamed former Tory minister also commented in this regards. The minister said: "You see the Germans and Italians easily exporting their engineering to India but it's harder for us given their restrictions on important services industries such as insurance.
So it's not so hard to "do business" and "take advantage" of these countries that are outside the EU, then? Even if your slap bang at the heart of the EU project, with the Euro currency and ev'revfin?
It's simply we haven't got the mercantile brains to make stuff that we can actually sell to them...
5thE - yes. But come on seriously? Back in 97 I thought he was great, but he squandered his mandate, and took us into an unnecessary war (I'll leave debates on legality to others).
He won an election after the war. Normal people just don't have it very high on their list of things that matter. His subsequent money grabbing may be an issue, but I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't.
He'd do infinitely better than JC. Not saying much obviously.
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Let me help you Chewkw, it was about given less than half the population wanted change, there should be no change.
well that's not true - the ones that stayed at home where implicitely saying "we'll accept the outcome of the vote whatever" - so therefore they accept that the country wants change.
well that's not true - the ones that stayed at home where implicitely saying "we'll accept the outcome of the vote whatever" - so therefore they accept that the country wants change.
Quite a lot of people were barred from voting.
If they had been allowed to vote, it's quite possible the vote would have been remain.
Edit:changed "almost certain" to "quite possible" (over excited....)
Following the Sun's lead I am going to recommend to the mods that usernames be prefaced with the words "foreign-born" where appropriate, hence "foreign-born chewkw".
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well that's not true - the ones that stayed at home where implicitely saying "we'll accept the outcome of the vote whatever" - so therefore they accept that the country wants change.
Unfrortunately a statement like that will have chewkw demanding that you prove it. Otherwise it's pure bunkum.
You've not considered the remainers who stayed at home who felt that the expected landslide would still have happened without their single vote.
If forced to vote the most likely outcome would have been 52/48. Any other conclusion is fantasy.
You speaking for the 16-18 year olds, there?
Children? We don't even trust them to drink. Why would we let them vote?
What happens if you call a 17 year old "a child"? Can I stand and watch (from a safe distance) while you do it? 😀
One of the few pleasures in life 😉
"At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
Following the Sun's lead I am going to recommend to the mods that usernames be prefaced with the words "foreign-born" where appropriate, hence "foreign-born chewkw".
Ooh can I be hunky?
turnerguy - it's in his posting history and he clear thinks that those who stay at home, of any age, supported no change. I'll let you two argue.
What happens if you call a 17 year old "a child"?
Experience tells me that they are. There are still a few who can maintain this status well into their forties too.
Whats the best I can hope for now, as a slightly-resigned Remainer?
Will I see full scrutiny, inc in public, of the Brexit plans? I know they're essentially non-existent but had hoped that this would allow me to interrogate my MP to have the 'plans' revealed for our consideration.
The govt will fight this by saying that it will give our hand away to Europe, of course. They've been saying that up to now anyway.
What I'm really hoping for is retaining single-market access.
The four freedoms are still very possible.
Probably end up paying more to Brussels, but having no say in the rules. Possibly less standardisation of law across Europe - in so far as it ever was standard.
A GE would settle it definitively as could be I suppose, does mean another 4 years of right wing rule, there's plenty more of the welfare state left to dismatle after all
The govt will fight this by saying that it will give our hand away to Europe, of course. They've been saying that up to now anyway.
One of the German papers commented (as far as I could work out) that transparency might help all sides get a good deal.
[tin foil pants] Secrecy, puts the jitters up Johnny foreigner, and so may promote a "rush for the doors" in the EU so as to get favourable deals. If you want to break up Europe, uncertainty and a lack of trust are good tools. [/tin foil pants [i][b]still on[/b][/i]]
A GE would settle it definitively as could be I suppose, does mean another 4 years of right wing rule, there's plenty more of the welfare state left to dismatle after all
How? Both Labour and tory are pro-brexit. I guess Labour may dissappear altogether and be replaced by an anti-brexit liberal party but it's hard to imagine they'll displace the Tories.
Well I think that's the point if its the defining debate of the moment,M PS might have to consider what they really stand for 🙄 Get Brexit over with, let people see the damage they've wrought unto themsrlves and in another 4 years time start putting things back together and consign post truth politics to that embarrassing period of 2014-2020 we can all look back on as a lesson from history
That assumes that Brexit will define this period. It may well be a side show.
48% of people who voted were remain.
The 52% were split far right and far left.
Entirely possible that a centrist pro Europe manifesto could take Westminster, but it would be starting from scratch.
Yeah, the liberals could be the big winners out of all this. Not a bad thing.
The govt will fight this by saying that it will give our hand away to Europe, of course.
You mean the fact we don't have a hand?
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Bring on the GE.
