A terrifying article in the Guardin today, just confirming what we all know. The people in charge of the decision making process in governments are fanatics! Who don't want anything as inconvenient as evidence or common sense getting in the way of their zealotry. With one exception. For now.....
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/02/mark-carney-brexit-bolsheviks-new-target-chancellor ]After Mark Carney, the Brexit Bolsheviks have a new target[/url]
This sums up the Leave headbangers perfectly....
[i]The leaders of the leave campaign faced the nation with the solemn indignation of children whose Christmas present arrives in fiddly parts, batteries not included. Years of pester power had delivered a cherished gift to the Tory right, but they wanted someone else to make it work before they could play with it.[/i]
Jamb you are so totally wrong and out of touch. Head For The Hills are far better.
Moly, Jamba - how's about a London-Paris-Brussels run?
(In fact we could throw it open to all on here and see if more energy goes into pedalling or arguing - bet it quickly becomes pedalling)
I'd include Edinburgh, Belfast and Cardiff but that's starting to sound like a Grand Tour.
Not enough riding, Jamba? Step away from 'tinerweb, stay out of politics and get back on the bike. 32km commute before work today for me.
Moly, Jamba - how's about a London-Paris-Brussels run?
Love the idea.
Will take some planning though. Small family and all that. How far is it?
I'm in! Show the rest of Europe we're not all fanatic right wing nationalists. It's been 2 years since my last big Europe tour.
London-Brussels a lot shorter, doable in a single day I think.
Where are you guys based igm, fourbanger?
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Reading.
Newhaven - Dieppe is a handy ferry.
Reading.
I'll pick you up on the way through. On my bike 🙂
Where are you?
This is getting real - York, so Hull-Zeebrugge is normally my ferry of choice, but our rail connections make it pretty easy to start from most places.
Might need to leave it until Easter or beyond but I like it.
And I like the jersey - if we all chip in do you think Jamba would wear one? Worth it for the photo.
How about when A50 is triggered? 🙂
London-Brussels a lot shorter, doable in a single day I think.
My lad and some mates did Cirencester - Paris in a day which is a bit longer than London - Paris. So either is do-able.
Best ride fast so that your £ will still get you a beer in Paris 😉
[i]Same level as in 2011 - did we have a thread then ?[/I]
Presume we did, regard the global financial crisis fallout.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/inflation-cpi
I am not saying that won't cause some issues but rising import prices will encourage us to buy less imported goods
I wonder how many UK made goods use raw materials also sourced from the UK.
I wonder how many UK made goods use raw materials also sourced from the UK.
Nobody has been in touch regarding joining my Lakeland Tea and Coffee growing enterprise yet, perhaps next I can seek some backers for my UK iron ore mining projects
Nobody has been in touch regarding joining my Lakeland Tea and Coffee growing enterprise yet, perhaps next I can seek some backers for my UK iron ore mining projects
Unfortunately you've already lost first mover advantage - there's a Scottish Tea company growing white tea and exporting it to China:
I am not saying that won't cause some issues but rising import prices will encourage us to buy less imported goods
The thing with imports is that they tend to be things that either we don't make because we don't have the resources or we simply can't make at a competitive price.
The UK is the [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_imports ]sixth largest importer in the World[/url] but only the [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_exports ]tenth largest exporter[/url] (2014/15 figures).
Our [url= http://www.worldstopexports.com/united-kingdoms-top-10-imports/ ]main imports[/url] include things like engines, machinery, computers, vehicles, electronics, fuel, pharmaceuticals, gems & precious metals, medical equipment, plastics, aircraft and clothing.
Much as I'd love to see the country covered by open-cast diamond mines, oil wells, and sweat shops - it's not going to happen.
there's a Scottish Tea company growing white tea and exporting it to China:
As chewkw incredulously pointed out earlier: have you seen their prices?!?
postive spin, it the pound tanks enough we can reopen the cornish tin mines, reopen those north wales slate mines, open cast the Forest of dean to get the iron out.
Fracking, bring it on.
lets rip the crap out the UKs environment!
As chewkw incredulously pointed out earlier: have you seen their prices?!?
could go for Cornish Tregothnan instead then.
But that's about thrupence in Chinese now since the pound collapsed
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How about when A50 is triggered?
I'm 45 now, I might be to old to ride by then.
Much as I'd love to see the country covered by open-cast diamond mines, oil wells, and sweat shops - it's not going to happen.
nah give it 50 years post brexit and I could well see the developed world: China, India, Federated States of Europa 😉 basing their sweatshops and call centres here.
nah give it 50 years post brexit and I could well see the developed world: China, India, Federated States of Europa basing their sweatshops and call centres here.
You forget one detail, the reason we outsourced to India was that there were English speakers there. How many in the UK speak Mandarin? The only hope for the UK is a Trump presidency.
I remember one of my history teachers telling me c.1988 that we were only one step away from becoming a third world country. Pretty prescient, certainly seems a possibility at the moment.
I like that molly, keep your EU passport for 11quid a month !
Even though he'd never admit it on here I'll bet that would be something jammers would sign up to in a flash 😉
Molgrips...signed.
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another law you can bet that the government will be desperate to ditch when we leave
still for now, thank goodness for the EU
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/nov/02/diesel-vehicles-face-charges-after-uk-government-loses-air-pollution-case
Why Kimbers ? Diesels seem a great target for some environmental tariffs. The whole issue has come about as German and French interests have pushed the EU to approve meaningless and easily dodged emissions tests
Little LOL at Kimbers for thinking the EU protects us from diesel particulates. Au contraire!
30% of city air pollution comes from 1% of vehicles and it ain't Audi A4s
If you give up I'll tell you.
Thanks Molgrips. I'm European and so is my wife.
30% of city air pollution comes from 1% of vehicles and it ain't Audi A4sIf you give up I'll tell you.
Is it bicycles? The Daily Mail said it was bicycles and cycle lanes that caused all the pollution and as they were so pro-Brexit and all the wondrous things that being free from the shackles of the EU would bring us, I think it must be bicycles.
The Daily Mail wouldn't get it wrong.
i have a very serious question , where will people get their Audis, will there all of a sudden be a black market?
It's gotq to be busses hasn't it? Or cabs.
Little LOL at Kimbers for thinking the EU protects us from diesel particulates. Au contraire!
and yet our own government is failing even to meet the EUs standards
because post brexit, we'll be putting all kinds of restrictions on car manufactureres,
oh no, we'll be offering them whatever they want as long as they build cars here....
Paris's solution from the other thread
Paris Mayor (Socialist) is talking of banning Diesels altogether. She has already been closing roads, reducing speed limits and in summer banning cars with even or odd numbered registrations on alternate days
Mattyfez wins. Buses
Paris's solution from the other thread
Are you approving or disapproving that Jamba?
Sounds good to me! Far from perfect but a step in the right direction.
I believe Dublin was considering something similar?