My tennis partners has just had to pay his Polish builders 20% to compensate them for the falling £. I thought he was a mug, but if he didn't they would walk away! So he was stuffed.
jambalaya
US Science and Research is pretty good and that's funded privately
it really is a constant stream of made up facts and figures to back up the world you have created
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institutes_of_Health
after all they only get $30bn a year from the US government
then theres this little outfit, you may have heard of them?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA
and these guys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Oceanic_and_Atmospheric_Administration
and plenty more besides
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I suppose if you are going to lie all the time you may as well just tell the biggest whoppers you can, its the Brexiter way after all
I wonder why your scary graph both focuses on GDP and ends in 2012?
In real terms, science funding is planned to remain at current levels, Ok, there's strong arguments that it should increase (and let's consider how much of the US figures are military research) but being alarmist helps nobody
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The US military fund a lot of basic research. I worked on a project funded by the US Office of Naval Research and it was nothing to do with Things That Go Fast And Explode.
In real terms, science funding is planned to remain at current levels
Oh good. So they're not planning to increase it at all to make up for the loss of EU funding? 🙄
Though you seem to be missing the point that no reference was being made to funding going down, it was simply a comparison of UK and US government spending in response to a #jambafact
So kimbers, under Labour we saw apoor levels of investment in research. Labour the party of remain.
Bit of a piss poor graph anyway. One of its axis is micro measured in fractions of a percent. Helping visually skewer a set of figures.
You did maths right?
In today's news a Belgian region blocked a EU trade deal with Canada. I imagine the Guardian will plaster their news with this?/.....
In today's news a Belgian region blocked a EU trade deal with Canada. I imagine the Guardian will plaster their news with this?/.....
Eh, it's the first story on the Guardian homepage Hora.
Bit of a piss poor graph anyway. One of its axis is micro measured in fractions of a percent. Helping visually skewer a set of figures.
It is accurate and allows you to discern differences. Not sure what your problem with it is? The only way it could be misleading is if you didn't bother to look at it properly. Plus each of those "micromeasurement" is 100s of millions of dollars so a tiny % change is a massive amount of money.
In today's news a Belgian region blocked a EU trade deal with Canada. I imagine the Guardian will plaster their news with this?/.....
Bloody Guardian Eh? Pointing out the uncomfortable reality that any one of 27 countries can tell us to stick our cloud cuckoo land list of 'demands' once we trigger our economic suicide in April. Is this actually sinking in with you flag-waving half-wits yet?
Perhaps the journalist who wrote it should be tried for treason?
In today's news a Belgian region blocked a EU trade deal with Canada. I imagine the Guardian will plaster their news with this?/.....
so they operate a democracy, if someone isn't happy it doesn't happen.
Unlike the UK where 37% of total electorate gets to screw everyone
25% of the total population voted to remain
100% of bargain hunters on STW have bought a barely used bike from Hora.
Also; 100% of manufacturers have had warranty claims made by Hora regarding supposedly defective equipment....
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ninfan - Member
I wonder why your scary graph both focuses on GDP and ends in 2012?In real terms, science funding is planned to remain at current levels, Ok,
erm your graph shows that the gov cut funding from that 2010 baseline, which already had us below Italy, still way below the rest of the G8 too.
the further cuts will now be felt extra hard as 'real terms' allows for inflation which is now on the up with the falling £ making research much more expensive as so much of our reagents and equipment is sourced, directly and indirectly from oversees.
and in real terms the other g8 member funding wouldve tracked in similar way
🙄Bit of a piss poor graph anyway. One of its axis is micro measured in fractions of a percent. Helping visually skewer a set of figures.You did maths right?
and yeah the guardian led with the ceta story
arguing with brexiters really is like pissing into the wind 😉
My tennis partners has just had to pay his Polish builders 20% to compensate them for the falling £. I thought he was a mug, but if he didn't they would walk away! So he was stuffed.
Hope he can play tennis better than agree a contract.
The flag waving idiots are in for one hell of a rude awakening come April
The EU Is just going to repeatedly say 'non' to the Brexiteers ludicrous demands, then as panic sets in as deadlines loom, offer us a far worse deal than the one we have at present, on a 'take it or *ing leave it!" basis.
Meanwhile the economy will tank, while the Daily Mail and assorted nationalist *-wits will spend the entire two years with their heads spinning around, then they'll explode with self-righteous, bile-filled, anti-foreigner indignation. Because everything is Johnny Foreigners fault!
I expect to spend the entire period with my head in my hands, ashamed of the vile, petty, toxic little nation we've become
25% of the total population voted to remain
and 26% voted leave, one fact about people, they don't congratulate only complain.
That only 26% could be arsed to complain suggests very strongly that most people are happy with the status quo.
How do you work out 26% voted leave?
1.5million more people voted to leave than remain.
You'd call them racists, narrow minded and xenophobes.
Not all of them, no. Some are just delusional and stupid.
wiki population of UK 65M, 17M voted leave, 17/65 is approximately 0.26
So using your 'method' 23% wanted to remain.
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no, 26% wanted to leave, 74% voted remain, didn't care or weren't asked. So anyone claiming there is a huge mandate is lying.
ashamed of the vile, petty, toxic little nation we've become
Called Englishness....apparently.
Using electoral commission numbers of eligible voters:
37.4% voted leave
34.7% voted remain
27.9% didn't vote or spoiled their ballots
So whichever way you look at it trying to claim a mandate or majority view for any course of action is rather disingenuous.
Remember, as far as St. Farage of bigots and the small minded is concerned, a result that close is unfinished business.....
no, 26% wanted to leave, 74% voted remain, didn't care or weren't asked. So anyone claiming there is a huge mandate is lying.
Are we counting feotuses now ?
I prefer % of electorate, so only 63% didn't vote to leave. IMHO any referendum on a major constitutional question like this should have a basic threshold of 50% of the electorate to change things, and yes that does also apply to the Scottish indyref. Though it seems we don't do things like that in the UK - IIRC only 25% of the electorate voted in favour of having the Welsh assembly.
There has been a lot of press that the leave vote was made up of older and less well educated people with relatively low incomes? Statically it's probably a little more complicated than that but as I have said before it is not that demographic that will have to fix this and as much as Jamba and others shout about a brave new world sadly "Bob the fork lift truck driver from Hartlepool" is not going to get off his arse and start a new export driven venture. It all feels a bit like picking someone else's dog s**t up. Politically we have to accept that the swing vote was probably this section of society (no criticism by the way it's where I came from) which contains very little in the way of wealth or job creation skills. The reSt who voted probably sit in the "we can make some serious cash here" camp.
Since we have voted out fuel (all types) food and clothes have become more expensive £20 is a lot of money each month if your on minimum wage, its an inconvenience if your on £40k,it's **** all if your on a £100k - this is the thin end of a miserable wedge and has created a brand new divide in this country. Now those at the bottom have gone from being tolerated to being despised- it's a shame they could not get off their arses when there was a proper election.
That's the trouble with democracy. If only top rate tax payers were allowed to vote the country would be a different place... 😈
Are we counting feotuses now ?
well as they will still be dealing with the legacy of brexishambles long after all the out voting old codgers have gone up to heaven (which i presume has a sign above the pearly gates saying 'No Foreigners')
then yeah give the feotuses bigger weighting 😉
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I guess we will know by the end of the year if the banks are bluffing...
no worries we'll make up the shortfall selling jam & tea. that will go down like a lead balloon in some quarters after we bailed the back stabbing bastards out 😀
Yeah, I'm sure it's just a bluff - after all, we have Taken Back Control!!
after all, we have Taken Back Control!!
100% the UK is now in complete control of how far we put out national dick into the spinning blades
no worries we'll make up the shortfall selling jam & tea. that will go down like a lead balloon in some quarters after we bailed the back stabbing bastards out
So the future of the UK relies of Tregothnan! Huge amount riding on a few camellias.
mikewsmith - Member100% the UK is now in complete control of how far we put out national dick into the spinning blades
At last! An advantage to having a small cock
Even if there is an agreement made following brexit that suits the banks in terms of passporting there will always be a risk it could be rescinded by a future government. If you had billions at stake would you take that risk?
I don't expect any sudden movement of people but a gradual redistribution of the work to different European cities.
I prefer % of electorate, so only 63% didn't vote to leave. IMHO any referendum on a major constitutional question like this should have a basic threshold of 50% of the electorate to change things, and yes that does also apply to the Scottish indyref.
Should that not have applied to us going in then? To the ratification of our continued membership under new terms in the seventies? Should it not have applied to signing the Maastricht and Lisbon treaties?
Because on any of your measures, we wouldn't have had Brexit, we would never have joined.
I CBA to read the papers/internet, so are there any of the pro-Brexit sources talking of the Canada-EU deal?
IMO it pretty much shows that a UK-EU trade deal will NOT occur within the two year deadline, so if this is the case where will it leave us?
Should that not have applied to us going in then? To the ratification of our continued membership under new terms in the seventies? Should it not have applied to signing the Maastricht and Lisbon treaties?
We live in a representative democracy, there should be no referenda on such matters. We pay politicians to know, if i want my house rewired i get an electrician in.
My tennis partners has just had to pay his Polish builders 20% to compensate them for the falling £. I thought he was a mug, but if he didn't they would walk away! So he was stuffed.
Efficient market then. Builders tried it on and client caved in.
We live in a representative democracy, there should be no referenda on such matters
Dutch now have a law that all Treaty Change requires a Referendum. They felt they'd been burnt too many times. We have been naive as a nation and mislead. We should have had the same
and referendum rely on an informed electorate, sadly we haven't got one.
Naive , Jambalaya?
You mean like people who voted Leave because of £350m per week for the NHS .
We have been naive as a nation and mislead.
That's for sure, but not in the way you mean!!!
