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Access to the single market wil have a cost. Try explaining that to the Labour base. I don't see what Norway pays per capita scaled up to the British population being acceptable to JC or his party.
Rayban - give up my man - don't be me part 2 😉
On Cox being a cock today:
https://twitter.com/alison_mcgovern/status/1176828037876396032?s=21
The anti-parliament (and anti-MP) rhetoric will ramp up big time over the next few weeks. Worrying times.
Irony, Boris Bus manufacturer goes into administration, Struggling Wrightbus, whose co-founder Sir William Wright is a prominent Brexit supporter, has been trying to attract a new owner or investment but failed.
That the Tory party stuffed with Eton and Oxbridge multimillionaires is setting itself us as 'The People' against 'The Establishment' is absolutely laughable. They couldn't possibly be more 'establishment'.
So the fact that this is actually cutting through as a narrative shows how far our society has been corroded by Brexit and this toxic English Nationalism it has unleashed.
I fear that as they set about creating 'enemies of the people' by undermining pillars of our society such as the judiciary, the next Jo Cox incident is a case of when, not if
And they don't even care!
That the Tory party ..............................
.....................And they don’t even care
You don't become a member of the tory party and especially not a Tory MP if you care about anything but yourself and your 'kind'
A reminder that Conservative MPs (well people elected as Conservative MPs) are also on the receiving end, both of death threats from dangerous radicalised people, and the “enemy” rhetoric aimed at anyone not blinding following the path set by people working both within and outside the Conservative party towards a “reformed” and “independent” UK.
binners,
Exactly, they are saying one thing in public and briefing another in private, and the BBC is passing on the subversive "judiciary messing with politics" message unvarnished from anonymous "sources".
Its the definition of a forked tongue, and if Cox is acting as reported then they haven't learned anything in the last few days.
In any other country this kind of rhetoric would qualify you for free clown shoes and a red nose at the UN.
To see it in my own is genuinely frightening.
I used to think that 10% of people would fall for anything shouted loudly enough (flat earth, moon landing conspiracy etc)), but when populism and nationalism take the gloves off, it looks more like 30 to 40% of the population will wander blindly down the road to dictatorship to avoid thinking for themselves.
I'm off to buy some gold and a flagpole to use as a disguise.
I find it terrifying that they're prepared to play games like this, so flippantly.
If the whole case of Jo Cox showed anything it's that once you let this kind of sentiment out of the box, or in this case, deliberately stoke it up, it doesn't take much before elements of it become impossible to contain.
Obviously, that doesn't bother them as they're insulated from everything by their wealth and power but this could have very far-reaching and corrosive consequences in all kinds of areas of our national life.
The mood is this country has already been turned toxic by Brexit and the nationalism, racism and intolerance its legitimised, but if they continue don't this road, which they're clearly intent on doing, things could get a lot, lot worse
That the Tory party stuffed with Eton and Oxbridge multimillionaires is setting itself us as ‘The People’ against ‘The Establishment’ is absolutely laughable. They couldn’t possibly be more ‘establishment’.
A bit like voting for a rich from birth white male president being anti-establishment?
Rayban – give up my man – don’t be me part 2 😉
😀 fair enough TJ.
That gave me a good chuckle.
🙂
A bit like voting for a rich from birth white male president being anti-establishment?
Pretty much.
I used to think that 10% of people would fall for anything shouted loudly enough (flat earth, moon landing conspiracy etc)), but when populism and nationalism take the gloves off, it looks more like 30 to 40% of the population will wander blindly down the road to dictatorship to avoid thinking for themselves.
Offer a tribe to join.
Fling in some fear/uncertainty/doubt with respect to the opposing tribe.
Or as some Austrian despot put it, "what luck for leaders that men do not think".
It is depressingly simple, looking at the Leave campaign in hindsight.
And now, it seems to have turned into a kind of death cult affecting a massive part of the population.
It occurs to me that this might be exactly why critical thinking never makes it onto any education syllabus.
If it did the population might start spotting what the twunticles at the top are up to.
Anyway, welcome news today from the Labour conference. Good to finish on such a positive note.
Nice to see but doesn't necessarily mean it will be in the manifesto come the GE.
Don’t harsh my buzz man!
Struggling Wrightbus, whose co-founder Sir William Wright is a prominent Brexit supporter, has been trying to attract a new owner or investment but failed.
And in the meantime the company pissed millions away on a dodgy Religion. Is that the fault of Brexit?
Cox was brilliant. Barking out his put downs in sonorous style. He made the foaming labour chump Sheerman in the horrible suit look as silly as his outfit.
"was there a question in the marshmallow of rhetoric?" No there wasn't.
Well, he made sure he got his key word heard, “COWARDLY!”
Again, and again.
Yeah, we get the game, try and bait the opposition parties to call an election WITHOUT an A50 extension… but perhaps they aren’t (collectively) as stupid as the arrogant no10 team have been banking on.
Cox was brilliant.
No he wasn't, he wasn't brilliant by any intelligent account of his responses to questions. And to suggest otherwise is .............
Cox was brilliant.
👍 😀
Let's have a GE.
Cox was brilliant.
Ahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa!
The Labour MP made himself look a chump too, by rising to the baiting (which is all Cox has got now, his credibility is shot).
A far better response would have been:
“While I respect sir Geoffrey’s opinion, can I please remind the house what tends to happen when the attorney general’s opinion or advice, be it professional or otherwise, is followed..... I think we can safely ignore that”.
Cox is a blustering twunt who has probably been offered some kind of aftercare by Johnson now his professional credibility is in tatters, so long as he goes full gammon, of course. He really has nowhere to go when Poundshop Trump gets the heave ho. Lovely job. Brexit is great for outing prats. Everyone who gets behind it for doctrinal reasons ends up looking stupid, because.......
I’m off to buy ... a flagpole to use as a disguise.
You should send one to the Commons for JRM to hide behind.
Johnson really has absolutely no care for the truth.
I know that isnt a surprise given he was sacked twice for being a lying bastard but even so it would have been nice for him to grow into his suspicion.
I do think Barry Sherman expresses what a lot of us are feeling about a government that thinks it’s above the law and can just do what the hell it likes
Binners, i agree but there is a large % of people that will be in uproar as he is now just an "enemy of the people".
Sad, worrying times mate.
At the risk of invoking Godwin’s Law, if you haven’t already watched it, then it’s worth viewing the recent 3 parter ‘The Rise of the Nazi’s’ on iPlayer
The analysis of how they were approaching stuff and manipulating things in the late 20’s and early 30’s will have a horribly familiar ring to it. The first thing they did was suspend the parliament, then set about undermining the judiciary.
The terminology they used will sound familiar too.
Populist nationalism is always the same. How far its allowed to get differs, but they all use the same playbook, and Trump and now Johnson are just following a well-worn blueprint
I am not sure why he is allowed to keep dribbling out "surrender act" and "betrayal" and people arent allowed to state that he is a liar.
Its beyond dispute that he is so its a simple statement of fact.
Binners my wife and I exactly those thoughts watching that series. Thankfully our courts seem to have a bit more independence than those of 30s Germany.
The appalling language coming out of Boris camp really needs addressing.
Joke of the day “the government prorogued parliament in good faith” - Geoffrey Cox
Erm, a recent Supreme Court ruling suggested otherwise mate 😁
You should send one to the Commons for JRM to hide behind.
Or for Johnson the liar to use for pole dancing. After all his previous one not be available.
Cox was brilliant.
Are you shitting me?
I would love to know what her hourly rate worked out as . 4 figures an hour to 'work' with BJ abroad , as a trade ambassador (to Mr Roché)
If we get a GE what will be the outcome? I cant see any Gammoners backing down , so they will vote the same . Some new voters will jump on the Lib Deb lifeboat . Then surely JC sitting on the fence with no definative policy and splinters in his pants will drop a few seats
This will leave us with another hung Parliment, possibly. UKIP gaining a few , Lib Dems gaining a few , Greens probably drop to zero
290 Tory , 250 Labour, 30 ish Lib Dems , 30ish SNP , few Greens, few U kippers.
Which will mean no way forward
Alot depends on if people can disasociate Brexit from party policy and other matters
I truely beleive that in the past people have 'bottled it' in the last seconds before voting. They intend to vote one way , then go' Actually , do you know what , I'm happy with the status quo ( not In the Army Now , but the rest are great ), I have a job, went abroad for 2 weeks on holiday , I am keeping up with the mtg , my PCP car makes me feel smug whilst sat in traffic jams, so lets not rock that particular boat and my head will be firmly in the sand and i am voting Tory again. Especialy if its sunny.
Can we vote for the judges in the Supreme Court?
Are they elected by the people?
Does the Supreme Court rule over the Parliament? 😄
Why are the Supreme Court intervening in a political process?
If PM BoJo ignores the Supreme Court ruling (let's assume) can he be sent to the tower or is the Supreme Court toothless if the PM refuses to comply? 🤔
What we are seeing now is the UK Parliament at odds with the population. Let's see now long this will last ... the Parliament sovereign or the people who lend them the power.
Let's have a GE.
There is no depth to which he will not sink. Even the Spectator are turning on him...
https://twitter.com/IsabelHardman/status/1176950278807064578?s=19
Johnson reaching new depths this evening. The best way to honour Jo Cox would be to get Brexit done and apparently asking him to moderate his language to avoid words like traitors is “humbug”.
He’s pretty much goading Parliament to get rid of him so he can sneak no-deal through in the chaos.
£5 says he’ll end up in prison one day for something he’s up to at the moment, something stinks, this beyond stupid now, he’s desperate.
I am certain the media have lots of bad stuff on him , they are just releasing it slowly , one bit at a time , just like with his affair with that US woman .
All PM BoJo nees to do is disregard the oppositions coz they cannot do anything to PM BoJo at all apart from attacking PM BoJo as a person.
Send PM BoJo to prison? Do it or they are just bluffing. 😄
All PM BoJo nees to do is disregard the oppositions coz they cannot do anything to PM BoJo at all apart from attacking PM BoJo as a person.
Send PM BoJo to prison? Do it or they are just bluffing. 😄
Christ you are boringly predictable.
All PM BoJo nees to do is disregard the oppositions coz they cannot do anything to PM BoJo at all apart from attacking PM BoJo as a person.
Send PM BoJo to prison? Do it or they are just bluffing. 😄
Yeah all that can do is attack him personally for his words and actions.
Christ you are boringly predictable.
I want to see a British PM, in office, in prison during my lifetime coz that will be history in the making. 😄
Clearly chewkw doesn't read the links he posts. If he did, he would have the answers to his own questions.
What is all this nonsense comparing us to 1930's Germany. This is just a Prime Minister trying to give the people what they want. At least he sees the importance of the Triumph Of The Will
^^ like what you did there.
I want to see a British PM, in office, in prison during my lifetime coz that will be history in the making. 😄
Why specifically a British one? Would you settle for an American president?
Aren’t they both people you(r persona) support?