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https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/1175099582990159879
Technology wise this isn’t even hard if you accept some permeability across the border… it’s not the end of the world if people cross the border just to go shopping… (half of Switzerland does that) cows and sheep wander in ignorant bliss… people commute daily in and out of Shengen between Denmark and Sweden…
Er, all of those countries are in the Schengen area. Besides which, Europe has enforced external borders, if we gained independence and EU membership this would cause customs problems that can't just be ignored.
I'm ignoring the Good Friday Agreement completely here, that's nothing to do with this scenario. I'm talking about enforcing an external EU border on our only land border. Assuming the UK went full "no deal" that cannot be resolved with wishful thinking.
Agreed
No deal or remain
(Only logical outcome is Norway type deal, but the brexiteers are still nutters & Johnson terrified of farage for that one)
MPs seem “a bit” upset about it all Bob. Probably best in another thread though.
I saw that as well, waiting for our resident Labour reps to square that circle.
Well just saw my first Brexit advert for travelling abroad...
Fk me absolutely fk all information other than taking insurance And your passport (er like you’ve being doing like for eva)
I saw that as well, waiting for our resident Labour reps to square that circle.
Do it in the right thread and I might reply 🙂 (it's raining and I've nowt else to do)
Just watcing last week's Question Time (yeah, it's that bad!). Amazing watching Ed Davey floundering and being eviscerated from all sides and laughed at by the audience about the Lib Dems ludicrous revoke policy. What I didn't know is that it isn't revoke in all cases, it's only revoke in the event that labour or the tories have not already provided a new referendum, and if in that case the public then voted for a lib dem govt, then they would revoke. Does this sort of simple flow-chart style policy sound at all familiar?
It’s only revoke without first having a referendum… if there hasn’t already been another referendum. Is that really that odd? Seems like a tautology to me.
Have they said that they want the result of any referendum to be “Remain”, and that the party will campaign for that? That’s what I’d like to hear from any party wanting to avoid the damage of Brexit.
Is that really that odd?
About as odd as trying to get a better deal than the tories abject failure and then holding a vote on it. Anyway, what was striking was how unpopular it appeared to be with the QT audience. With one policy the lib dems seem to have turned themselves from the democratic champions of remain to enemies of democracy.
I avoided watching it … please tell … what policy was “popular” with the QT audience … ?
Well just saw my first Brexit advert for travelling abroad…
Fk me absolutely fk all information other than taking insurance And your passport (er like you’ve being doing like for eva)
There isn't any other information to give, maybe your EU health card won't work and be prepared to queue forever in the non EU immigration line.
Before travelling “check online to see if your passport is valid” … cheers multi-million pound advertising campaign.
Caroline lucus absolutly tore the lib dem policy apart. Quite rightly. How on earth does that have broad appeal and be healing to a divided country. good job they are not going to have any power.
Surprised this place hasn't imploded today after Corbyn on Marr. It's really a shame that the labour party isn't in a place like the lib dems where they can make promises without ever having to implement them, and only have to worry about winning votes from one section of the population. Look at it this way, has there ever been a leader of a party who has left open the possibility, before an election, that a government lead by them might not support something they've created?
It’s really a shame that the labour party isn’t in a place like the lib dems where they can make promises without ever having to implement them
Labour won't ever have to implement its policy either:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election
That red line has a trend that says Labour policy (or lack of it) has allienated about 40% of its voters..
Labours “lets ban private schools and seize their property” idea is going to harm them, not help them - it plays into the media’s “look guys....****ing commies!” narrative.
Any chance of putting that in another thread?
Labours “lets ban private schools and seize their property” idea is going to harm them, not help them – it plays into the media’s “look guys….**** commies!” narrative.
That’s the labour narrative, not the media narrative. This is on top of confiscating 10% of companies, locking up political opponents and crashing the economy.
Any chance of putting that in another thread?
+1
14 PTS behind Tories &
Still
Can't
Back
Remain
and crashing the economy.
TBF that seems to be a winning strategy for No Deal Johnson ! It's all the Brexit party ltd fanboys seem to want
Do it in the right thread and I might reply 🙂 (it’s raining and I’ve nowt else to do)
It was already asked yesterday.
Spin about Trump&Johnson whipping up a quick and easy trade deal is starting up again it seems (ignoring the Ireland question of course)… I’ve only seen a Sun article so far… so no link to post here. Will Johnson be pivoting to the “No Deal means more deals” position of the Brexit Party soon, rather than waiting ‘till an election is called…?
The other thead was closed becuase it should be here apparently so:
This is the sort of thing a country should be truly ashamed of:
It’s one of the things that means I want either no deal or remain, nothing in between that might allow the city to continue to provide money laundering and fraudulent “services” without EU judicial control.
It’s one of the things that means I want either no deal or remain, nothing in between that might allow the city to continue to provide money laundering and fraudulent “services” without EU judicial control.
I'm not sure no deal would have that effect.
No deal means Britain losing its EU banking passport.
I've been engaging on and off with a leaver on Facebook who I nominally know in real life. They've been posting pro-leave propaganda for months, what has the EU ever done for us, and all that. They've just posted now, they've got caught up in Thomas Cook going pop, lost the holiday of a lifetime. I couldn't resist an open net so I've just replied.
"You won't be out of pocket. The EU Package Travel Directive (2015/2302/EU) protects European travellers for cancellation, repatriation and refunds. Lucky you didn't go on holiday next month instead, really."
I know, I'm a bad man.
keep us informed of the response
No deal means Britain losing its EU banking passport.
Preumably could still "continue to provide money laundering and fraudulent “services”" for non-EU clients?
I know, I’m a bad man.
You also look look like you might be a bit..you know...foreign.
You’ll be first up against the wall when we’re free of the EU restrictions protecting vaguely Mediterranean looking types.
keep us informed of the response
It was actually his wife that posted, with him tagged in. All I've had so far is a thumbs-up from her.
No deal means Britain losing its EU banking passport.
You realise bankers aren't very popular in some quarters of the UK, don't you?
You and I are good neo-liberals so we understand the benefits of banking to the Uk but a vast number of leave voters did so specifically to give bankers a kick in the teeth.
All the UK banks have set up EU entities to keep their EU passporting. Only took a couple of years, millions of pounds for the project and billions moved to eg Ireland.
Corbyn still on the fence I see.
No news there, what's really important is the SC ruling tomorrow.
Will they set precident to legalise a dictatorship in boris, or will they dismiss the government appeal?
And also this is just judgement on whether the courts have a say, rather than whether boris lied to the Queen? I thought it was a two part argument which would require a seperate court case?
If the ruling goes against PM Bojo tomorrow then there is a likelihood that PM Bojo will have to resign. Thus will make him the shortest PM in office in British history?
Woohoo more entertainment 😄
rather than whether boris lied to the Queen
That issue can never be decided by a court because the Queen will never say what Boris told her and nobody will ever believe Boris's version of what was said.
Johnson won't resign
He's too busy toadying up to Trump saying 'only trump can get a deal'. - even tho there was deal trump tore it up coz he was jealous of Obama
But we are America's bitch now , welcome to brexit britain
it's judgement time...
Hurdle one - they can rule on it...
I think he's about to lose part 2...