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Not forgetting …
- protect polar bears
- stop bull fighting
- save our cuppa tea
- better flood defences for Yorkshire
- more curry chefs for the Midlands
- stop whale hunting
- keep out the Turks
- stop them taking our kettles
- lower bills for hard-pressed families
Nothing they wouldn’t stoop too
Yes, those who are determined to leave without any negotiation have literally their prize within their grasp, there is no way they will not try every thing they can to get what they want. I don't think we've seen the worst yet.
It’s law that boris has to ask for an extension. But there are no penalties related to breaking the law. It’s also an incredibly dodgy law as it only applies to him. Breaking it is political theatre and little more
An injunction can be sought to compel him. If he doesn't comply with the injunction he'll be in contempt of court and liable to imprisonment.
I've just had notification of my last day of service... October 31st. I wonder if that contains an obligation for call up in the event of a national emergency. That could be hilarious.
I don’t think we’ve seen the worst yet.
Neither do I. I note that Kwasi Kwartang has been publicly questioning the impartiality of the judiciary, saying they are anti-brexit. If the supreme court rule against them expect full blown 'Enemies of the People' faux outrage
And I think there's a bit of an undercurrent emerging of, if not actively courting the thuggish far right, then certainly giving them a tacit nod that they're fellow travelers and on the same side.
I hope I'm wrong but I suspect we might see another Jo Cox moment, or maybe far far worse
Spot the difference: Scottish Govt's copy of Yellowhammer says it's a 'base scenario', while UK Govt's says it's a 'reasonable worst case'.
Scottish Govt says it's 'puzzling' and 'curious'
It was revealed yesterday that the leaked document was "base scenario", and as with the pointless redacted section, it is questionable as if they are so incompetent that they can't even get the misdirection right, or if that is actually a deliberate misdirection in itself to obscure larger miss truths. The truth though probably is that it is most likely just incompetence that will end up working out for them in the long run.
The truth though probably is that it is most likely just incompetence
Or just that they know the friendly papers wont point out this minor detail so they will be able to use it to fool some people.
Helped when they dont care about being called out for lying by anyone else since, again, the friendly papers will skip it.
An injunction can be sought to compel him. If he doesn’t comply with the injunction he’ll be in contempt of court and liable to imprisonment.
Maybe, but it's a dodgy law, so maybe not.
Even the Daily Fail comments section is starting to believe Project Fear...
https://twitter.com/DMReporter/status/1172078005675540485
It is a staggering achievement when you think about it.
And all this time we have looked on at North Korea in a kind of awe at the powerful brainwashing techniques they are said to have employed – yet the real thing was being done here, under our very noses
The staggering thing is that it’s not staggering, all of this was written about in the 50s.
“ For though ours is a godless age, it is the very opposite of irreligious. The true believer is everywhere on the march, and both by converting and antagonizing he is shaping the world in his own image. And whether we are to line up with him or against him, it is well that we should know all we can concerning his nature and potentialities” - Preface, The True Believer
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer
Hoffers book is a best selling classic and yet only the old Cold War warriors seem to remember it’s lessons. It is described as a book where “ Hoffer analyzes and attempts to explain the motives of the various types of personalities that give rise to mass movements; why and how mass movements start, progress and end; and the similarities between them, whether religious, political, radical or reactionary.”
Here is a list of excerpts/quotes
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Eric_Hoffer
Successful mass movements need not believe in a god, but they must believe in a devil. Hatred unifies the true believers, and "the ideal devil is a foreigner" attributed with nearly supernatural powers of evil
Yeah. We got that one ticked with Brexit alright.
Yup not the only one claiming it was altered.
Once again Brexit based on more lies.
https://twitter.com/bbckirstenc/status/1172146232631996416?s=21
Mrmonkfinger
Mass movements begin with "men of words" or "fault-finding intellectuals" such as clergy, journalists, academics, and students who condemn the established social order (such as Gandhi, Trotsky, Mohammed, and Lenin). The men of words feel unjustly excluded from or mocked and oppressed by the existing powers in society, and they relentlessly criticize or denigrate present institutions. Invariably speaking out in the name of disadvantaged commoners, the man of words is actually motivated by a deep personal grievance. The man of words relentlessly attempts to "discredit the prevailing creeds" and creates a "hunger for faith" which is then fed by "doctrines and slogans of the new faith".[16] A cadre of devotees gradually develops around the man of words, leading to the next stage in a mass movement.
Eventually, the fanatic takes over leadership of the mass movement from the man of words. While the "creative man of words" finds satisfaction in his literature, philosophy or art, the "noncreative man of words" feels unrecognized or stifled and thus veers into an extremism against the social order. Though the man of words and the fanatic share a discontent with the world, the fanatic is distinguished by his viciousness and urge to destroy. The fanatic feels fulfilled only in a perpetual struggle for power and change. Examples include Jean-Paul Marat, Maximilien de Robespierre, Benito Mussolini, and Adolf Hitler.
Describes Farrages departure from
UKIP as well.....I mean it’s almost ****ing prophetic isn’t it?
Good to see preperations for the 31st well underway.
Couple of the signs on the M25 had
"Freight To EU
Papers may Change 1st November.
Please check".
Wonder if people will pay attention. They werent to the ones the other way on my earlier trip
"Unless overtaking please stay left".
I heard Brexit described as a heist today. That works.
Those pesky legal Scots are at it again.
If they win, a Scottish court can send the EU a letter requesting an extension if BJ refuses to do so. 🙂
The campaigners have applied directly to the inner house of the court of session, the court’s senior tier, as it has a power unique amongst British courts to provide a legal remedy if one is not available elsewhere, a power known as nobile officium.
...the nobile officium power could mean the court will send the article 50 extension letter on Johnson’s behalf, if he refused to do so.
Them yoons'll be pur ragin'
Haha amazin'.
Why Brexit - never was the old saying follow the money more appropriate
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With the recent interference of the verminous race I wonder if BJ and his cohorts are busy studying the terms of the Treaty of Union now.
The last line of this poem published by him* is apt...
The Scotch – what a verminous race!
Canny, pushy, chippy, they’re all over the place,
Battening off us with false bonhomie,
Polluting our stock,
undermining our economy.
Down with sandy hair and knobbly knees!
Suppress the tartan dwarves and the Wee Frees!
Ban the kilt, the skean-dhu and the sporran
As provocatively, offensively foreign!
It’s time Hadrian’s Wall was refortified
To pen them in a ghetto on the other side.
I would go further. The nation
Deserves not merely isolation
But comprehensive extermination.
We must not flinch from a solution.
(I await legal prosecution.)
.
.*he's not the author of it.
I’m generally seeing Yellowhammer being either dismissed as highly unlikely, not mentioned at all, or better than what will happen if Brexit is cancelled, civil disturbance etc.
No acknowledgment that the released document is a stitch up.
Is there publicly available data on news outlet readership by location? I’ve noticed that the DM Online seems to have a lot of readers amongst commuters heading into Edinburgh from Fife, but it’s hard to tell if that’s just me catching a glance of something recognisable, or actually a reflection of popularity.
If the Yellowhammer predictions come true, won't it all be because the nasty EU - who hate us anyway - wouldn't be nice to the UK, or because the Remain voters refused to honor the Ref. or because traitorous members of parliament undermined the great British government?
It's been said all along that when Brexit fails to deliver what it promised, it will be everyone's fault except the people who made the false promises.
I’m generally seeing Yellowhammer being either dismissed as highly unlikely
Project fear by all the secret remoaners in government, is what I'm seeing mostly.
Boris (for it was he, I believe) really pulled a blinder with the "project fear" mantra. It's a catch-all answer to instantly dismiss anything they don't like and doesn't require a scrap of justification.
Huh.
Yellowhammer is an anagram of "Orwell mayhem"...
Makes you think
Boris (for it was he, I believe) really pulled a blinder with the “project fear” mantra. It’s a catch-all answer to instantly dismiss anything they don’t like and doesn’t require a scrap of justification.
I think it was coined during the Scottish Indy-ref wasn't it? (Irony)
That yellowhammer summary seems to be making the news a lot. Doesn't seem to be being painted in the best light either.
Of course the fanatics are dismissing it. They're not for turning.
It's the marginal leavers this might convince.
Is the current flavour of opposition tactic now "ref before GE" or the other way around?
epicyclo - exactly. Just 5 ****s toying with the ants.
It’s the marginal leavers this might convince.
TBH I think there were a lot of those. And given the close result we didn't need many to swing public opinion. Which has already been swung:
https://britainelects.com/polling/europe/
I know, polls, but the consistency is significant.
We have an interesting one now... A labour/brexit stronghold - with John Mann stepping down and a new Brexit candidate, we could have battle on our hands here.
I think it was coined during the Scottish Indy-ref wasn’t it? (Irony)
I believe so yes, but it was BJ who first resurrected it for brexit I think.
Meanwhile, Poundland Father Jack isn't happy and it's all our fault.
https://www.ft.com/content/24e1c0be-d5f0-11e9-8367-807ebd53ab77
Oh dear what a shame never mind.
We used to pop in the wetherspoons at the NEC. Not since the vote.
I am The Remain Elite.
I know, polls, but the consistency is significant.
Yes, isn't it?
If only MPs would just get on with respecting the will of the people, or something like that.
We used to pop in the wetherspoons at the NEC. Not since the vote.
Didn't use to mind the one in my local town - always a nice selection of recognisable but not often seen beer (Ruddles County was there for a while), but frankly I would rather die of thirst than set foot in there now.
Pathetic? Maybe, but it gives me little gee up.
Behind paywall but I guess the headline gives the gist.
People are voting with their feet are they?
Yeah, me too. He's been very vocal and reaps what he sows. Not shedding any tears.
I'd imagine profits will nose-dive if he carries out his threat to stock only UK products
I would still use weatherspoons but Arron banks actually bought his company into the argument rather than keep his company neutral. The block is a dick. I hope he get caught for some kind of embezzlement and becomes big Frank's wife in prison.
Behind paywall but I guess the headline gives the gist.
You get (I think) three free FT pages a month. Changing browsers will probably dodge that.
Speaking of Banks,
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1171838817470431234.html
I'm starting to understand how conspiracy theorists must feel.
I’m starting to understand how conspiracy theorists must feel
I feel like this too, but actual evidence seems to just keep coming, unlike the flat earth or area 51...
crispin odey eh?.......i wonder how fast the self satisfied fat **** can run?......
So what struck me today... an old friend/colleague making completely out of character misleading statements. Stuff he patently doesn't believe but is throwing out there.
Yesterday it was all about "then lets have an election NOW when parliament won't support the will of the people" ... and he's not stupid enough to believe Boris won't just change the date... he's just saying it to inflame people.
Someone pointed out we had one.. so having another would be betraying the will of the people but to me it's just sad. He's saying something he doesn't believe simply to support why we should leave.
I imagine he's now a fully paid up member of the "leave now death cult" that appears to taking hold of the nutters, I'm all for them to express their views and beliefs but only if they all carry it through to a natural conclusion and drink from the communal Kool-Aid.
Flavor aid ! (Specifically grape)