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And if you don't have a milkshake ,IMPROVISE!


 
Posted : 18/05/2019 6:07 pm
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And if you don’t have a milkshake ,IMPROVISE!

*Gets out blender, adds milk and then shits in blender*


 
Posted : 18/05/2019 6:30 pm
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 “reform” not “remain” and you can’t do that from without.

If we do remain we will not be in any position to insist reform. EU27 will argue that we came back as there was nothing better to leave well alone.


 
Posted : 18/05/2019 6:39 pm
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From the horse’s mouth. I’ll be honest I find this tweet pretty terrifying.

https://twitter.com/nigel_farage/status/1129332991610818560?s=21


 
Posted : 18/05/2019 8:23 pm
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What he fails to mention is that he'd quite like to replace it with a one-party system.


 
Posted : 18/05/2019 8:24 pm
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For a resolutely positive view of Britain (which is rare around these parts) Arte produced this a couple of years ago. They're showing it again. It was Spain last week and that was enough to finalise our holiday plans.
Enjoy:

https://www.programme-tv.net/programme/culture-infos/10670345-un-jour-au-royaume-uni/

Edit: don't worry if you don't understand either French or German (the language choices) just the images will have you singing Land of Hope and Glory.


 
Posted : 18/05/2019 8:34 pm
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If Toadface gets anywhere near any real power with that as his stated aim, then it might be time to start googling Mannlicher Carcano surplus and looking for the nearest building marked ‘Book Depositary’.

If there is anyone out there who owns an open top vintage limo, then we may achieve some ‘dovetailing’.


 
Posted : 18/05/2019 8:44 pm
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My Brexit Party leaflet was shoved through the door alongside a pamphlet for 'The England Party' - English Jobs for the English, apparently. Plus UKIP and 'The Yorkshire Party'.

This makes me fear that the Yorkshire Party may be something of a Trojan Horse.


 
Posted : 18/05/2019 8:47 pm
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Dear Mr Banks I definitely heard farage call you a **** today ,time to stop his pocket money.


 
Posted : 18/05/2019 8:57 pm
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Walking past the posters outside the local school/voting bureau (all official) for the various parties in the Euro elections I noticed there's a Frexit party to vote for, if Google + still existed for me to post photos I'd have posted a pic of the two people in the pic. We have "gammons" in France too it would appear. I'll post how many votes they get when we get the results.


 
Posted : 18/05/2019 9:01 pm
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I'm amazed that 34% of respondents would pledge support for a party without having read the list of policies or any manifesto.

Post-secondary education of critical thinking skills training should be mandatory.


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 12:46 am
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Post-secondary nursery education of critical thinking skills training should be mandatory.

FTFY.


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 8:28 am
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I’m amazed that 34% of respondents would pledge support for a party without having read the list of policies or any manifesto.

I am not amazed at all and it has probably always been like that. If you question the average voter on what policies they agree to and then tell them what party has those policies they are usually surprised to hear that they are Labour policies for example even though they vote tory "because"


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 9:01 am
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Smash the NHS ,crush British farmers,  slam the door on white Christian immigration. Vote Brexit Party.


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 9:07 am
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I’m amazed that 34% of respondents would pledge support for a party without having read the list of policies or any manifesto.

Well, 52% of those that voted supported leaving the EU, without having a read a list of policies, or any manifesto. Lesson learnt… promise vague change.


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 9:42 am
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slam the door on white Christian immigration.

Oh noes - moar brown people! Whatever will we do.


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 12:00 pm
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Well Farage had better come up with something. Already EU immigration is down to about 25% of its pre referendum level but overall immigration has remained about the same - i.e. non EU immigration is up massively.


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 12:33 pm
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Well Farage had better come up with something. Already EU immigration is down to about 25% of its pre referendum level but overall immigration has remained about the same – i.e. non EU immigration is up massively.

The majority of which are students. Besides who cares besides racists?


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 1:01 pm
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The fence sitting is going well, isn't it?

https://twitter.com/derekjames150/status/1128067152060268544

Seeing if they can get down to single figures with the Tories


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 1:20 pm
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EU27 will argue that we came back

Hard to come back to somewhere you haven't left, non?


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 1:54 pm
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Seeing if they can get down to single figures with the Tories

The poll in The Observer this morning had labour at 29% so where have the figures in that tweet come from?


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 4:23 pm
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The 29% is GE polling, not European Election polling (which are the figures in the tweet with a downwards trajectory).

A General Election isn't happening right now… so polling for that is very much about long term voting inclinations… where as a lot of otherwise Labour supporting voters have a chance, this week, of giving the party they "naturally" support a message. From social media it looks like A LOT of Labour MPs are getting that message…


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 7:24 pm
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The 29% is GE polling, not European Election polling

Funny isn't it how everyone's suddenly so enthusiastic about euro parliament elections 😉


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 8:29 pm
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Well Corbyn’s half rice/half chips approach has clearly made both rice and chips fans that maybe they’ll go for the salad instead.

He’s without doubt the most inept, clueless political ‘leader’ I’ve ever seen. And I include Iain Duncan Smith in that


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 8:45 pm
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Funny isn’t it how everyone’s suddenly so enthusiastic about euro parliament elections

I’m not surprised you couldn’t be arsed to check what the percentages represented. Isn’t the EU virtually indistinguishable from a dictatorship? In which case, you may not have realised there was even an election happening.


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 8:52 pm
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He’s without doubt the most inept, clueless political ‘leader’ I’ve ever seen. And I include Iain Duncan Smith in that

Actually Corbyn is caught between a rock and a hard place. He is not clueless as everyone thinks because he knows he will be blamed regardless so why bother? Might as well let the rest do the talking for him so he does not get the blame which is a wise move if he intends to keep his seat. Those that shout the loudest will know their fate in the next GE.


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 8:55 pm
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All hail the killfile. 🙌


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 8:56 pm
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The polls can say what they like. And they don't say 29% Daz, they say 20% and that's the most optimistic for labour

Me and Mrs Binners are both lifelong labour voters and have just done our postal votes to vote Green

My parents were over this afternoon. Both are lifelong labour voters and have just done their postal votes to vote Lib Dem. They're both in their 70's, politically clued up, Lifelong Guardian reading lefties and have absolutely had it with Magic Brexiteer Grandad. This is the first time in their lives they've not voted labour

My neighbours are lifelong labour voters and have just done their postal votes to vote for the Greens. He's recently retired, a son of a Manchester Labour councillor and steeped in the Labour party. Brought up with it. They've both just done postal votes for the Green Party. This is the first time in their lives they've not voted labour

One of my best mates is labour through and through. Until now. She worked under Blair at the home office and is a lifelong labour party member. She recently cancelled her membership. She just did her postal vote for the lib dems. This is the first time in her life she's not voted labour

Can you see a pattern emerging here?

Labour won't get a sniff of 20% of the vote, never mind 29%. The people, like me, who they could always have relied on to put their cross in the labour box - their core support - are deserting the party in droves

And with bloody good reason.

When Magic Grandad 3-line whips his MPs to abstain on Mays fourth attempt at getting her deal through, he'll have sold us all down the river

So * him! And * the pathetic far-right enabling labour party he's created!


 
Posted : 19/05/2019 10:57 pm
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And with bloody good reason.

Nope - with paranoid delusions based on right wing press lies. Its sad you cannot see how yo have been manipulated by the tory press to vote against your own best interests


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 9:23 am
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Too True TJ. The mainstream media is the enemy of the people! Fake news about the properly elected leader must end!


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 9:33 am
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That’s the problem with us capitalist lackies and slaves to the military industrial complex. We can’t even see the shackles of our own oppression


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 9:34 am
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Oh how the right wing media keep making me seek out the speeches and interviews of our glorious leader to read the actual words he uses. If only they would work even harder to keep me away from his words and force me to only read the spun interpretations of his words delivered to me by the more sympathetic journalists (yes I'm looking at you, the once widely respected Paul Mason).


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 9:56 am
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We have another Binners prediction...

When Magic Grandad 3-line whips his MPs to abstain on Mays fourth attempt at getting her deal through, he’ll have sold us all down the river

We will see


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 9:59 am
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Predications are crazy when it comes to this.

I think we'll still be in the EU come May next year, and be on our third Tory PM within 12 months.

The one thing I have no idea about, is how, when the mess of Brexit is rejected by even more of the public, the anti-Brexit Labour MPs, members and voters get the Labour leader to change, or to change who that is, before we Leave. I can't see any change happening in time there.


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 10:06 am
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We have another Binners prediction…

I am wondering if he is Jacob Rees-Moggs dad considering his liking for predictions and how shit he is at them.


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 10:10 am
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Morning comrade!


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 10:16 am
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So, on Thursday i’ll Be voting for the strongest Remain party in my region: it’s gonna be Lib Dem for me. Labour has lost my vote and the Greens never do well in what is traditionally a Conservative safe seat.

It really is a one issue election.


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 10:20 am
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Me and Mrs Binners are both lifelong labour voters and have just done our postal votes to vote Green

As someone who has voted green in every election since 2003 apart from general elections I'm extremely encouraged by this. It's a shame though that many who will be voting for them are doing so purely on the basis of brexit, when they have many other excellent policies, not least about the most important crisis we should be worrying about, instead of the sideshow of brexit.

You do realise though don't you that the green party are way to the left of Corbyn?

It really is a one issue election.

It's a very weird election, that's for sure, as a poll lead and predicted victory for a party which didn't exist a month ago is somehow being interpreted as a massive shift towards remain. Whilst everyone obsesses about Jeremy Corbyn, Nigel Farage gets a free run.


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 10:38 am
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You do realise though don’t you that the green party are way to the left of Corbyn?

I don't think you get it, it isn't Corbyn's leftism that is the problem, it is his incompetence and ineffectuality when tested.


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 10:44 am
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It really is a one issue election.

Yep as will every election for the next decade- which is why fence sitting is so pointless.

I'd love to vote green, but their stance on GM leaves me with big reservations about their wisdom.

Lib Dems it is.

Sadly farage will do well , even tho not having a plan for Brexit is now something he's proud of !


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 10:48 am
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MSP beat me to it, but thats exactly how I feel. I also think that there's a very nasty undercurrent to the whole cult-like atmosphere within his evangelists, who will not tolerate any dissent or criticism. I suspect that if Corbyn and his acolytes got anywhere near power they would get very, very authoritarian, very, very quickly


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 10:49 am
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I predict months of frigging about by our political leaders whilst we get more and more frustrated and people who would otherwise be broadly agreeing with each other fall into increasingly acrimonious endlessly revolving arguments


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 10:50 am
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So which is it. Is Corbyn the master manipulator who has the entire party under hard left control or is in ineffectual and hopeless?

Or have you just swallowed propaganda about him?

There is not a single "hard left" policy proposed - just normal social democratic policies. YOu guys are doing what the right wing press want you to do here - cutting off your noses to spite your face.

Kelvin so what speeches and statements do you object to?


 
Posted : 20/05/2019 10:51 am
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The ones where he refers to the EU, and our continued membership of it.


 
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