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I’m guessing the Belgium’s love...


 
Posted : 31/01/2019 8:24 pm
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I see Corbyn as more of a rabbit in the headlights. He’s stuck and he doesn’t know what to do.

No-one does - because it's an impossible situation. I don't think anyone could get themselves out of this bar a truly exceptional statesman - and you can't really blame Corbyn for not being one.


 
Posted : 31/01/2019 8:25 pm
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David Lammy is one of the few MPs to emerge with even a shred of credibility from this shitshow

https://twitter.com/davidlammy/status/1090877442418528256?s=21


 
Posted : 31/01/2019 8:33 pm
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Will any of today’s idiots be liable to prosecution?

You mean like the ones that tell porkies and get offered their jobs back once the dust has settled.

Not a chance mate more chance of being bit by a daffodil


 
Posted : 31/01/2019 9:04 pm
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Not a chance mate more chance of being bit by a daffodil

As I said before, there are other ways.

I mean, I wouldn’t suggest, oh I don’t know, stringing up Rees Mogg from a lamppost, but I think at this stage it is important that all options remain on the table.


 
Posted : 31/01/2019 9:29 pm
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I see Corbyn as more of a rabbit in the headlights. He’s stuck and he doesn’t know what to do.

No-one does – because it’s an impossible situation. I don’t think anyone could get themselves out of this bar a truly exceptional statesman – and you can’t really blame Corbyn for not being one.

indeed - which is why i don't consider him to be mendacious like the ERG headbangers. Just a bit useless.


 
Posted : 31/01/2019 9:30 pm
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I’ve got a solution to the Irish border problem. If (as now seems possible) the U.K. crashes out and at the point where life in Ulster becomes as unbearable as anywhere else in the Union, the people in Ulster organise their own referendum...

Stay in the U.K. or join the Republic...

Money will, as ever, talk and bullsh** wil do the fandango.


 
Posted : 31/01/2019 9:36 pm
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I’ve said before that the reintroduction of Lynch mobs would be the only advantage of the chaos of a no deal Brexit. For me there’s only one candidate for first against the wall...


 
Posted : 31/01/2019 10:06 pm
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Grayling is apparently only interested in 'doing the right thing'.

https://news.sky.com/story/chris-grayling-says-criticism-is-because-hes-lightning-rod-for-anti-brexit-brigade-11624002

Shame he didn't live 100 years ago - doing the right thing then would have involved a stiff whisky and a revolver.


 
Posted : 31/01/2019 10:10 pm
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the people in Ulster organise their own referendum…

Stay in the U.K. or join the Republic…

That's always looked a possibility - which is why I can't understand why the DUP are supporting Leave.


 
Posted : 31/01/2019 10:14 pm
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A good article in today’s Grauniad on the utter uselessness of Jeremy Corbyn

If Corbyn gets his hands dirty he can avoid a hard brexit

I don’t hold out much hope though. He’ll doubtless just carry on ineptly facilitating the dreams of the hard right like any good socialist should.


 
Posted : 31/01/2019 10:20 pm
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utter uselessness of Jeremy Corbyn

Is that your google alert text?


 
Posted : 31/01/2019 10:46 pm
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For me there’s only one candidate for first against the wall…

Hang on a moment:

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Posted : 31/01/2019 11:08 pm
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the people in Ulster organise their own referendum…

Stay in the U.K. or join the Republic…

That’s always looked a possibility – which is why I can’t understand why the DUP are supporting Leave.

AIUI the Good Friday Agreement includes a clause guaranteeing a referendum on Reunification if a yes vote ever seems likely. And the next census is expected to see Catholics becoming a majority in NI. So a referendum is almost inevitable with or without Brexit. But if Brexit results in the GFA failing, the DUP could argue that there's no longer a requirement to take the question to the people... Call me cynical. 🙁


 
Posted : 31/01/2019 11:34 pm
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Farage's wife was German. Bet he's teetotal too


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 12:32 am
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Can someone explain how we are going to to have control of our borders Brexiter style but with a Brexiter style no border between the republic and NI, and no border between the mainland and NI?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/09/04/control-borders-revealed-leavers-number-one-must-have-real-brexit/amp/


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 5:31 am
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Easy, unicorns and technology and a sprinkle of fairies.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 6:41 am
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Bet he’s teetotal too

One of his ex-friends did claim he wasnt overly fond of beer and far preferred wine but went for the point for the common man touch.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 8:35 am
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Bypass Brexit.

Vote for the withdrawal agreement and we’ll errrr buy you a bypass for your constituency. Hmmmm call me a cynic, but what are the wto tariffs on pork and barrels? Frankly I’m disgusted.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 10:49 am
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Easy, unicorns and technology and a sprinkle of fairies.

Oddly the guy who runs the port of Dover had to physically bite his tongue when asked the same questions...and that was 58 days, can we install all this stuff....lololo


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 10:58 am
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/01/one-three-uk-firms-activate-plans-move-operations-abroad-no-deal-brexit-iod-survey

And still a lot of people think this is a good idea(!)

Presumably this time it is the alluring, saucy and devious EU that is luring these companies by underhand means......


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 11:07 am
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/01/one-three-uk-firms-activate-plans-move-operations-abroad-no-deal-brexit-iod-survey

And still a lot of people think this is a good idea(!)

Presumably this time it is the alluring, saucy and devious EU that is luring these companies by underhand means……

Look on the bright side if 1/3rd of companies go it means I will get to go and working Europe......yeeeh...oh wait a minute


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 11:13 am
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So (and I can't believe the situation has brought me to this, but there you go) has anyone else started adding the odd tin of canned fruit and the odd back of frozen veg to their shopping?

I have to admit that I have - I don't want the kids to be going without fruit and veg for a month (albeit not of the fresh variety). It makes me feel a bit ashamed and a bit 'tin foil hat', but I am actually genuinely concerned that No Deal on 29th March is actually going to be a lot worse than even predicted so far. So here I am, popping a tin here a bag of rice/pasta there in my shopping.

Am I losing my marbles or does anyone else feel the same way (and are acting on it in a sort of Heath Robinson way)?


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 12:46 pm
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I've heard of lots of people who are. We arent yet, but probably will do at some point


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 12:56 pm
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We've booked a week away in the middle of nowhere in North Wales. As this shitshow unravels/falls apart I want to be safe in the knowledge that I don't have to be anywhere, so no need to risk the gridlocked motorways, or worry about the availibility of petrol, and don't have anything in particular to do. I'll be up a mountain in Snowdonia watching the country burn.

I think we can now take a No Deal Brexit as a given now, and I'm actually quite looking forward to seeing the bunch of wilfully ignorant, gammony *-nuggets, who've been gobbing off about 'Project Fear' for the last 2 years, get a crash course in how our interconnected, intertwined, just-in-time supply chains function (or don't) in a 21st century globalised economy.

Given the cobblers they were naively and stupidly sold, theres going to be some very very rude awakenings taking place.

* 'em!


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 1:02 pm
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Posted : 01/02/2019 1:23 pm
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Everything will be available, it'll just cost more. If you're not poor, then there is no need to worry about food really.

Drugs on the other hand… you should be preparing for delays and shortages… they are not something that can be managed by just pricing poor people out of the market (yet).


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 1:23 pm
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the daily mail will go apesh1t when it realises we are going to crash out and still pay them the £39bn !!!

Anyone who has watched the Sabine Weyland video on youtube will spot that there will be money coming the other way as part of the agreement but that stuff gets ignored eh


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 1:44 pm
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Crace nails it again:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/01/stockpiles-despair-record-levels-brexit-digested-week

And he finishes by saying 'being a satirist gets harder by the day'.

Indeed.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 1:51 pm
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Re that tweet of the Charles Moore article a few pages back, I thought we were taking back control of our borders? and after the migrant "crisis" a few weeks ago we were sending the coastguard to torpedo rowing boats coming across the channel in case they contained a couple of Iranians. So, given that, (which most Brexiters would be in full support of), how does he expect to smuggle across lettuce for his salad speakeasy without being intercepted?

But he wouldn't be doing it would he, it's just all jolly japes to them, the people who are already having to choose between heating and eating are the ones who will suffer, Charles will be just fine.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 2:09 pm
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they are not something that can be managed by just pricing poor people out of the market

Here come the Americans however, after the NHS has burned


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 2:52 pm
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New line from the brexiters

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/01/britains-best-chance-revenge-lost-brexit-remain-eu/

Stay in and **** shit up.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 3:52 pm
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^^^^ that (first bit) just made me smile!
They're not biased, honest!?!?


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 4:02 pm
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To be honest, if you really hate the EU it seems an eminently more sensible idea to wage a diplomatic guerilla war from inside the EU - as opposed to flouncing and letting the behemoth on your doorstep gather strength.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 4:24 pm
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I can't read that whole TG article but it says this:

against it.

What should be clear to all now is that all hope of a successful Brexit has been lost, irredeemably fumbled by this blundering government out-thought and out-fought...

That seems a reasonable way out for leave voters, whilst saving face. Interesting that it's being written about.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 4:29 pm
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How's the campaign for a "peoples vote" going ? It would appear that they've thrown in the towel already. Or maybe they've all gone up Snowdon for a mass pant wetting!


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 4:33 pm
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I've stock piled hay fever medicine if that counts - i noted where the only combo of stuff i've ever found that works is made, and then bought 6 months worse. Brexit it will be bad enough in any event, let alone combined with itchy eyes and constant sneezing.

We'll probably get some tins etc, post the next depressing vote.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 4:35 pm
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I hope this 'trojan horse' plan gathers pace. It's a win/win. Britains been an arsehole in Europe since time began so it's business as usual. Leavers just need a save face opt out like trump and his wall.

It's genius! Well done torygraph


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 4:36 pm
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How’s the campaign for a “peoples vote” going ? It would appear that they’ve thrown in the towel already. Or maybe they’ve all gone up Snowdon for a mass pant wetting!

We Leave next month. The politicans killed the idea of a referendum when they talked down the clock before Xmas. They are busy killing off all options one by one, except no deal and the current WA with a few nice reassuring words issued about it. Or a panic recinding of A50 notification I suppose… but all key players still claiming that's impossible… by which they mean they'd prefer a no deal Brexit than stopping Brexit.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 4:41 pm
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I am with Kelvin.

The clock has ticked out. We are out of options, deliberately all we can do is accept Mrs May's 'plan' or crash out with no deal. This is the brinkmanship to end brinkmanship game.

All the running around and debates at parliament just remind me of this.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 4:57 pm
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I’ve actually found myself agreeing with Rees Mogg that Parliament should be suspended. For all the self-reverential pontificating and grandstanding what has it actually achieved?

The sum total of **** all!

Nothing has changed one bit. The government has decided they’re going to run down the clock until its accept Mays daft, nonsensical ‘deal’ or its crashing out.

So No Deal it is, then? And the resulting chaos. They might as well just stop all the ridiculous posturing and just get on with it, because absolutely nothing will change in the next two months. Everyone’s position is just too entrenched, and collectively our MPs possess not one shred of imagination or common sense, or indeed concern about what happens to the mugs they allegedly represent

Enduring the next 8 weeks is just going to be like purgatory, because we all know already how this is going to end. Really really badly. Unless you’re a disaster capitalist multimillionaire.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 5:13 pm
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This is quite an interesting read:

https://news.sky.com/story/we-need-better-powers-to-stop-data-bamboozling-voters-11622947

Too many words for the quitlings unfortunately.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 5:27 pm
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We've started a "Brexit cupboard" this week, after the shenanigans in Parliament this week. Until then I was quietly optimistic that we would end up with a deal where we were in some version of the customs union. After this week I think we'll crash out with no deal.

We haven't gone crazy, just buying more of the stuff we normally eat, and a few extra things like canned potatoes and sponge puddings. We aim to have a very well stocked food cupboard on 29th March which we can use if there is a food shortage, or work our way through over the next year if there isn't.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 6:26 pm
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We haven’t gone crazy, just buying more of the stuff we normally eat, and a few extra things like canned potatoes and sponge puddings. We aim to have a very well stocked food cupboard on 29th March which we can use if there is a food shortage, or work our way through over the next year if there isn’t.

Me too. I’m considering starting a second one, though, to pay homage to the Buccaneering Brexit Spirit. This will not be for personal consumption, but when some poor unfortunate runs out of food I will gladly hand it to them for zero cash. Yes, that’s right, no cash will need to change hands. Just a quick signature on a document loaning the recipient the retail value (plus 10%), minimum £10 spend, at a very reasonable 1000000% apr. A more in-keeping scheme I cannot envisage.

Making Britain great again.


 
Posted : 01/02/2019 6:53 pm
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Gibraltar or is it squirrel.

Brace yourselves it’s starting.


 
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