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Posted : 14/12/2018 2:34 pm
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or that may just be project fear and the EU will fall over themselves to treat us plucky brits that manage to escape…

How, exactly, does one go about claiming political asylum?


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 2:37 pm
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travel insurance costs will go up like they are for non-EU destinations at the moment

Extra fun/expense if you have a pre-existing condition, like T1 Diabetes.

And… raising your eye from your summer jollies… think about UK citizens living and/or working in the EU.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 2:39 pm
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and the "amusing" part of the ETIAS thing, it isn't a visa so any attempt by the UK to impose a visa as some brexiteers are calling for means reciprocal treatment. ETIAS won't apply and you would then be liable for a full visa.... which from what i can find is of order 50-60 euro.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 2:41 pm
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How, exactly, does one go about claiming political asylum?

Or you move to RoI under CTA, try and get a job, remain resident for years, claim irish citizenship and then can relocate at will in the EU.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 2:43 pm
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We really are ****ed arent we. Destined to be stuck in limbo on the fringes with none of the benefits but all of the costs.

I'm about to go visit my parents who both voted to leave, should be an 'intersting' few hours avoiding any mention of this shit storm.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 2:53 pm
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How, exactly, does one go about claiming political asylum?

Or you move to RoI under CTA, try and get a job, remain resident for years, claim irish citizenship and then can relocate at will in the EU.

Or move to NI, and when it inevitably reunites with the the Republic, job done.

Or possible emigrate to Scotland for the same thing. You can help this process by telling your MP to chuck those whingeing subsidy sucking Scots out of the Union. 🙂


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 2:53 pm
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Anyone else noticing an increase in the number of Brexit conspiracy theorists that are popping up? Along the lines of "It's all a secret Remain plot between May, the EU and the media - they've planned this all along". In that case, well done Mrs May you've played a blinder, you had me fooled into thinking you and you colleagues really had no clue what was happening from one day to the next.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 4:04 pm
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We really are **** arent we. Destined to be stuck in limbo on the fringes with none of the benefits but all of the costs.

Blue ****ing passports. Traitor.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 4:16 pm
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invalid. travel insurance costs will go up like they are for non-EU destinations at the moment.

Yes my parents will be ****ed because my Dad has pre-existing conditions and struggles to even get insurance. Both ardent remainers in case you were wondering.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 4:44 pm
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I’m about to go visit my parents who both voted to leave, should be an ‘intersting’ few hours avoiding any mention of this shit storm.

You should give them a hard time for landing you in the shit.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 4:45 pm
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I’m about to go visit my parents who both voted to leave, should be an ‘intersting’ few hours avoiding any mention of this shit storm.

The dawning realisation that this is still all going to be up in the air over Christmas has come to me. Christmas with my Brexit voting Daily Mail reading inlaws has never looked so dreadful. To cap it off my MiL's brother died last week so I've had to promise to be nice to her when all I want to do is shake her by her triple lock pension.

Idle thought...if we all knocked off our inlaws over the festive season not only would the world be a better place but also if a 2nd referendum comes to pass there's a chance we'll get to call the whole thing off.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 4:50 pm
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Or possible emigrate to Scotland for the same thing. You can help this process by telling your MP to chuck those whingeing subsidy sucking Scots out of the Union

I'll not deny that I've been feeling somewhat remote from much of the shenanigans on the basis that we might have one last chance to escape from the forthcoming bourach. I can't say that I feel particularly optimistic though.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 4:52 pm
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I think the @crazy-legs theory that the (a) Tory front bench will back a referendum before the Labour one does is starting to look more likely…

Pressure is mounting…

https://twitter.com/jameschappers/status/1073590413821386753?s=21

…the details match up with his post very closely.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 5:10 pm
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I note that the EU., an organisation consisting of no less than 27 different countries all with their own particular needs and cultures, have all been able to cooperate and agree with each other on the point of whether or not the Brexit deal is closed.

Brexit? Of course!! Who on earth would want to belong to a union as shambolic and disorganised as that? Eh? Eh?

Oh, wait....


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 5:32 pm
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And… raising your eye from your summer jollies… think about UK citizens living and/or working in the EU.

I have a good friends whose mum and dad recently moved to France permanently.

One has a debilitating illness which will never go. Both massively strong Leavers. Like many leavers, logic just doesn't seem to apply.

I've spent a Coyle of hours on the BBC Have Your Say section this afternoon. Ostensibly discussing May's complete and totally predictable humiliation. Again.

Honestly, the majority of leavers are utterly radicalized by Brexit. Logic and common sense count for nothing. On the few occasions there is an admission something is not really going well with this process it's always someone else's fault. The EU, May**, Remainers being "unpatriotic."

I'm sure if we crash out on WTO terms, the WTO will be the next "elites" to be blamed for any hardship suffered! It's always someone else's fault.

Wish to Christ I had recent Irish ancestry to get an Irish passport but no dice.

**Can't stand her but was always a poisoned chalice.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 5:35 pm
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My hope is Scotland leaves Uk for EU. Then says anyone born on the island of Britain can have Scots EU passport.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 6:06 pm
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If I bought a house in N.I and paid council tax would I be an N.I citizen. If I and 10 other people then bought the cheapest shack in NI with our names on the deeds would we all get NI citizenship?


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 6:07 pm
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Christmas with my Brexit voting Daily Mail reading inlaws has never looked so dreadful.

**** 'em. Life is far too short to be somewhere you don't want to be. I haven't seen my mam for a couple of weeks and don't want to visit any time soon (me, remainer; her, DM reading loon) 🙁


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 6:18 pm
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Someone needs to tell the Brexiteers that we should stay in, what would be better - to leave? Or to hatch a Machiavellian plot to destroy the EU from the inside?

https://www.politico.eu/article/why-the-eu-should-fear-a-second-uk-referendum/

I mean ****, if they think we're that evil already - we should just go full Russian, start funneling money and support to the yellow vests and the FN.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 6:38 pm
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Blue **** passports. Traitor.

And toblerone. At least that’s secured.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 7:40 pm
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If I bought a house in N.I and paid council tax would I be an N.I citizen. If I and 10 other people then bought the cheapest shack in NI with our names on the deeds would we all get NI citizenship?

No you would be a Brit living in Northern Ireland, Sorry but you need to be born in the island of Ireland to get an Irish passport(mind you being born in Ireland isn't always enough, I don't fully know the rules on that), or the child/grand child? etc of an Irish citizen.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 9:13 pm
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Apologies if this has been done but it is equally hilarious and terrifying


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 11:06 pm
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Sadly that is representative of a lot of our population.


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 11:48 pm
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And why a 2nd referendum would be a risky move...


 
Posted : 14/12/2018 11:53 pm
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Just watched that James O'Brien clip. When asked what was so terrible in York, the chap explained it was ''the state of everything!'' What does that mean?

I thought the caller was very nebulous.


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 12:04 am
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Given he was born in 1983, and thought we should go back to the 1990’s, I think he just didn’t much like being a grown up.


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 12:11 am
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And under WTO rules we are so rurally ****ed.#


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 12:17 am
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York is pretty much remain


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 12:29 am
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An engaging interlude


 
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York is pretty much remain

The guy was a very depressing caller.
I wish he had asked
''What have continental Europeans ever done for York??''


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 12:50 am
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"What have continental Europeans ever done for York??"

Pillaged it mainly, but that was a very long time ago.


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 1:09 am
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I am not sure the Vikings would appreciate being called continental Europeans.


 
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Pillaged it mainly, but that was a very long time ago.

Vikings may have taken York by force, however assimilation led to York becoming an important trading post.

I am not sure the Vikings would appreciate being called continental Europeans.

I don't think the Vikings would have cared about the context or connotations of being called continental Europeans


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 1:45 am
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Listened to that - depressing.

I know he said he was 35 but he sounded about 19. I too however would not trust the uk populous not to vote brexit again given the chance even though they now have concrete evidence that wierdly having your cake and eating it turns out to not be as easy as Bozza would have you believe the first time around.

The Roman’s who founded York I’m sure would be down with being called continental Europeans.


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 1:49 am
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He sounded simultaneously 15 and 70 tbh


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 4:56 am
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I am not sure the Vikings would appreciate being called continental Europeans.

The Italians did it first. Although to be fair, I don't think they pillaged it. 🙂

It was capital of the future EU Roman Empire for a wee while - if you regard the base of the emperor as the capital.


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 8:32 am
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Anyone else think that Junker looked and sounded like he had been on the sherry from the BBC news clip with T-may, last night?

Plus the old boy was ruffling that blond woman's hair in an over familiar sort of way.... Awkward.


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 9:04 am
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”What have continental Europeans ever done for York??”

Brought huge amounts of cash into the city? Big euro-tourist town. Also hen nights - but they’re mainly Geordie.


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 10:13 am
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I am not sure the Vikings would appreciate being called continental Europeans.

given that the vikings were influential from the Caspian to Northern England, I don't think they've have minded to be honest.


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 10:20 am
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given that the vikings were influential from the Caspian to Northern England,

The vikings who rebranded to be normans were quite fond of the idea of a united Europe.


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 10:29 am
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Plus the old boy was ruffling that blond woman’s hair in an over familiar sort of way….

Typical EU behaviour, will be much better when we are out of it and can go back to restrained non emotional interactions.


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 10:53 am
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TM likes old perv though, she was quite happy to reinstate 2 MP so that they could vote for her.


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 11:01 am
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Anyone else think that Junker looked and sounded like he had been on the sherry from the BBC news clip with T-may, last night?

From other clips I've seen of him, he probably had.


 
Posted : 15/12/2018 6:20 pm
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Well known drunk, he's hardly the first - or even first politician - to be so, and won't be the last.


 
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