Ooo,can't wait for an update from BoJo.
And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!
How can she unilaterally cancel a vote
A ****ing disgrace.
By May's argument the original brexit vote should've been postponed or cancelled until all the facts were known and confirmed.
Been offered a role in dublin with current client. Heavily tempted to get my Irish passport sorted and **** off out this shit hole until it all dies down
How can she unilaterally cancel a vote
Allegedly, she's in charge of the government, which, allegedly, controls the legislative agenda.
it will go on until either there is a general election, and we can vote (normally) to avoid brexit, or we have another ref. when sense will hopefully prevail.
or we can just watch the car crash happen, slowly, until everyone is dead in the road.
I might have a way into a Dutch job. Shame the biking is so shit, otherwise I'd be there like a shot.
Statement on A50 - postponement? Don't think she will cancel it.
How can she unilaterally cancel a vote
By just cancelling the vote, it's kind of that simple, she does not need to present a bill to parliament if she doesn't want to.
Party before country! Again.
With GBP:EUR taking another dip, is it that the forex market thinks no deal brexit has increased in likelihood rather than a revocation of article 50?
It'll be due to the instability and uncertainty I'd guess.
With GBP:EUR taking another dip, is it that the forex market thinks no deal brexit has increased in likelihood rather than a revocation of article 50?
Or they make both ways, this time it's the turn of secret group A, next week the agreed to let the other lot make some cash.
it’s kind of that simple
No, it isn't. Any chance of people making an effort to get informed about how our democracy actually functions? This thread is depressing full of statements made as if absolute, without first making reference to fact.
The business of the house can be altered at any time, but not uniltately by the government without requesting permission from parliament.
it will go on until either there is a general election, and we can vote (normally) to avoid brexit
How, given our first past the post system, with both parties having Brexit in their manifestos, can you vote for your MP go towards avoiding Brexit?
A50 statement seems to be "we signed up to it before the ecj ruling so the ruling doesn't apply to us". Yeah right.
By just cancelling the vote, it’s kind of that simple, she does not need to present a bill to parliament if she doesn’t want to.
Peston saying MPs are planning to reject May's motion to cancel the vote..
Allegedly
There you go.... Laughing
No, it isn’t. Any chance of people making an effort to get informed about how our democracy actually functions?
OK so who decides what bills go to the house and when? Who can decide not to put it up for a vote?
A50 statement seems to be “we signed up to it before the ecj ruling so the ruling doesn’t apply to us”. Yeah right.
Really? I can't tell if that's a joke…
ECJ rules that it is the nation state's government's power as to when/if to Leave the EU…
…UK government say that you can't force that power/responsibility onto us.
Weird world.
Take back control.
Sovereignty.
Molgrips - one word. Cyclocross.
So, let me get this right (as I’ve been away from this thread for a little while)
A50 can now be cancelled without the agreement of the other 27 nations.
May has half of a nothing “plan”
So, let’s cancel Brexit and get on with our lives whilst watching the brexiteers have exploding heads .
Certainly save on the NHS budget.
Take back the EU 👍
Stop being racists 👍
Surely she is just trying to run down the clock so much that other "soft Brexit" options become impracticable and there is a choice only between her deal and no deal?
Really? I can’t tell if that’s a joke…
Saw it reported on a news site from a goverment source but can't track it down again. So either my Google fu is weak, it was removed from the page or I imagined the last 2 years and it was all a bad dream. I'm hoping for #3.
[quote="Sturgeon"]
Assuming these reports are accurate, this is a watershed moment and an act of pathetic cowardice by a Tory government which has run out of road and is now collapsing into utter chaos. It is final proof that the interests of a deeply-divided Tory party matter far more to the prime minister than people’s jobs and living standards. That is an unforgivable dereliction of responsibility, and the UK government should now get out of the way and allow others to take charge.
It appears the vote is being delayed because of the Tory party civil war, and in a desperate attempt to save the prime minister’s job. Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain but yet again our views are being ignored, as they have been throughout this disastrous and incompetent Brexit process.
The prime minister’s deal should come before the House of Commons immediately so that it can be voted down and we can replace Tory chaos with a solution that will protect jobs, living standards and Scotland’s place in Europe.
Sturgeon hasn't missed and hit the wall there that's for sure
No truer word written IMO.
Except she leaves out England in that statement, i’ll forgive her that because the English treat the Scottish with little respect as it is.
Got a link to what Sturgeon said, missed it.
Molgrips – one word. Cyclocross.
Like I said....
cultsdave - I posted the text above.
Cannot seem to embed a video, so here is the link. Saw it this morning and it made me chuckle!
Nicola and Jez can't topple the government on their own.
PM told Cabinet Tories would suffer a 'notable' loss if they pressed ahead with vote on her deal.
She said 'risks are too great' and she is going back to Brussels to secure 'legally-binding assurance' we won't be trapped in backstop indefinitely
From the telegraph
Really? really? REALLY?
How deluded is she? The NI backstop has to be indefinite and has to not be unilaterally ended by the UK or its pointless and has no value.
So, let me get this right (as I’ve been away from this thread for a little while)
A50 can now be cancelled without the agreement of the other 27 nations.
May has half of a nothing “plan”
So, let’s cancel Brexit and get on with our lives whilst watching the brexiteers have exploding heads .
Certainly save on the NHS budget.
Take back the EU 👍
Stop being racists 👍
I, like you, don't spend too much time on this thread, it's bad for my heart.
It would be nice wouldn't it?
Every poll I've seen, either in my echo chamber Twitter feed, or on the News says that the Public are fed up with it.
Scores of Leave voters are making public statements in their own little ways to say they feel cheated by Vote Leave and would vote to stay now, given the chance.
Every promise they made has proven to be false.
Not a single Brexiteer is brave enough to say "Okay, this is what will really happen if we leave, no, let's let the public decide."
The Tories have imploded, The hardcore Brexiteers, whilst not large enough in number to actually force anything, are running around like saboteurs setting fire to everything and anything they can to try to force one of them into No 10 somehow. This wouldn't usually be a problem in such a time of national crisis, if it wasn't for the fact that the opposition is lead by a spineless, snide prick who would will happily **** us all over, to get there himself.
The only 'party' that's been damaged more by this than the Tories is UKIP, who, for all intents and purposes don't exist any more, the very 'real' reason why we got in this mess in the first place has gone, yet here we are.
Frankly I'd be delighted more than surprised if the Queen sends the lot of them to the tower until sense prevails.
May heading to Brussels to try and renegotiate the Irish backstop
A) if there was a better alternative then surely that would've been included in the deal already
B) I hope the EU tell her to **** off
So it is party before country.
So it is party before country.
Has it ever been anything else, it's just becoming more obvious to everyone now
She said ‘risks are too great’
No shit!
I was about to post that.
If May goes cap in hand to Brussels and they tell her to do one, she's going to look even worse, she's absolutely out of options bar one...
So it is party before country.
To the Tories keeping Labour out is putting the country first as they Labour just wouldn't do things so well as they do
Theres never been any negotiation, and there certainly won't be one now. The EU held all the cards right from day one.
It was surely obvious to anyone with anything between their ears that any 'deal' would involve the EU deciding what it wanted then putting it in front of us to sign, with the words "there you go. Take it or *in' leave it!"
Unfortunately it looks like a no deal Brexit just became a very real possibility. The idea that self-serving morons like Rees-Mogg, IDS, John Redwood, Bill Cash, Boris *ing Johnson and their ilk could get what they've always wanted absolutely terrifies me!
Has it ever been anything else, it’s just becoming more obvious to everyone now
Well, sometimes it's "career before country", so compared to, say Boris Johnson, "party before country" is relatively principled.
the omnishambles rumbles on
I wonder if this was on the plan on someone's desk that no one else could see.
I wonder if this was on the plan on someone’s desk that no one else could see.
where is THM?
May is basically a condemned prisoner, chewing her final meal as slowly as possible so she can delay the inevitable as long as possible
