As the economy tanks, with investors and businesses fleaing for the safety of the continent and the streets burn, out of those flames will emerge the brave new phoenix of the UK socialist republic, comrades! With Chairman Jeremy cheered through the streets by a grateful public
Spam and tractors for everybody!
Dim or what?
'We are doomed.
26% of the people Sky asked think "No Deal #Brexit" means we #RemainInTheEU.'
The labour party has lost 150,000+ of their fabled 500,000 membership over the last year due to Corbyns por-Brexit stance. Would they be these ‘useful idiot moderates’?
Laughable that you've turned an 'according to reports' - to an absolute fact.
Care to suggest a single seat in the UK where you think more Labour voters voted Leave than Remain?
In my own constituency Bassetlaw.
And I would argue neighboring Mansfield too - though they had a shift to the Tories in 2017 but it is a tiny Tory 'majority'. But they would've been Labour in 2016.
So that's two on my doorstep.
I'm sure membership is holding steady, and its all a capitalist plot to undermine the upcoming socialist republic. And that's what matter here. That and people being beastly to Dianne. That's not on, either
Any other business comrades...?
So instead they will just cede to an alt-right coup?
No because it is a catch 22. If they stop the hard right coup on brexit then they will be potentially so weakened that the hard right coup would go ahead anyway.
Especially with people willing to repeat hard right news sources as fact in any old attempt to attack the current Labour leadership in order to try and return to the dreamtime when labour was chasing tories rightwards in order to court the swing voters and effectively telling their core voters to sod off.
Any other business comrades…?
Membership of the Tory party is ... laughable.
Alastair Campbell for prime-minister eh?
Membership of the Tory party is … laughable.
It is, but please don't get in the way of Binners posting his silly pictures again, because they make him feel superior to people who actually bother to join Labour.
Aah there we go - I was missing those Life of Brian pictures. Good old binners, finger on the pulse as ever!
It's cleverer than you think because John Cleese is leaving the UK isn't he?
Even if he doesn't really live hear anyway.
And double funny because he backed EU leave in 2016.
Nice one Binman.
out of those flames will emerge the brave new phoenix of the UK socialist republic
Hardly. What we will (probably) have though is a tory party split into two, which pretty much hands labour power forever assuming they can hold together themselves. The question for the labour party is whether that prize is worth the hassle of governing a country in a no deal scenario?
The question for the labour party is whether that prize is worth the hassle of governing a country in a no deal scenario?
Hang, draw and quarter me but I can deal with Labour & no EU - but not Tories & no EU.
George Osborne in Evening Standard
As it happens, however, I understand why [Jeremy] Corbyn doesn’t want to enter talks with Theresa May. It’s all been a short-lived Downing Street stunt. The prime minister all but confirmed that on the call to the cabinet last night that was leaked.
She will never make the move needed to win over substantial cross-party support for a Brexit deal, because it would further rupture the Conservatives.
I predict that when the crunch comes she’ll put her party first, and that means she would favour a no-deal Brexit before no Brexit. Of course, parliament may well overrule her — as we’ll see this week.
Hang, draw and quarter me but I can deal with Labour & no EU – but not Tories & no EU.
Im not sure that it will work out that well for the ex-employees of JLR, BMW, Toyota, Airbus, Phillips Avent etc etc etc
who end up on the dole thanks to a Tory hard brexit
Today's tale of an under cover gammon.
Speaking to a very nice and helpful lady in Mr Farage's office today.
She thinks that there is a flat 10% on everything with the WTO. On hearing about the 30% chocolate tariff she said "they are even worse than the eu" and said that I should contact my mep.
She has forwarded my concerns to my local mep. Let's see what happens.
She couldn't have been more helpful just totally uninformed.
Corbyn could easily have gone in to the talks & come out & said that May wouldnt budge on her red-lines (which we know she wont)
who end up on the dole thanks to a Tory hard brexit
That's why I said Tories & NO EU is the worst combo.
Lot of people on the dole in my area already though.
Im not sure that it will work out that well for the ex-employees of JLR, BMW, Toyota, Airbus, Phillips Avent etc etc etc
who end up on the dole thanks to a Tory hard brexit
They'll be fine once all the immigrants have been kicked out
That fruit's not going to pick itself
because they make him feel superior to people who actually bother to join Labour.
I am confused though. I thought the pictures and accompanying primary school insults were supposed to indicate that members of Labour were now a cult which should be ignored. However it seems now that suddenly thats not the case and the drop in membership* shows that membership is suddenly important.
Its all very confusing.
Maybe now he could join the Labour party and bring it back to glory under his leadership following the policies of something or another. It would liven up question time with the response to questions being a frantic search through some photos and then holding one up. Bit crap for radio though.
*terms and conditions apply. Membership may go down as well as up depending on whether who you believe.
So, another announcement at 15:30 today.
The press is saying she's hoping to find a way to appease the ERG and the dreaded DUP, maybe she will, maybe so won't. The DUP are often seen as being 'for sale', but equally I'm sure they know they've never been as relevant to Westminster before and likely never will be again and the ERG won't be happy until one of their own is in No10.
Would it help though? Anything that appeases them is only going to displease the rest of the House (well... all things being equal) there's 62 hardcore Tories and 10 DUP MPs who want different things and 158 other MPs who, presumably want closer links with the EU.
Would it help though? Anything that appeases them is only going to displease the rest of the House
It will waste some more time.
The ERG will never be appeased. Thats why they've managed to move the agenda further and further to the right over the last 2 years. She's caved in to every single one of their demands. Her red lines aren't really her red lines at all, they're the ERGs. They've dictated this whiole thing from day one.
And every time she's caved into them, they've howled how she's not gone far enough, and is 'betraying brexit' blah blah blah... and demand more
This time will be no different. I can't see anything other than No Deal now. Because thats what the ERG want, and whatever the ERG want, they get
Lot of people on the dole in my area already though.
After brexit long term unemployed will be off the dole, and into a glorious modern 21st century workhouse that make foxconn work conditions look like paradise. G4S shareholders will be happy though.
After brexit long term unemployed will be off the dole, and into a glorious modern 21st century workhouse that make foxconn work conditions look like paradise. G4S shareholders will be happy though.
Well, that's what they voted for - "will of the people" and all that.
sounds like Cameron was lining the Lib Dems up for the fall then, what a **** *
After brexit long term unemployed will be off the dole, and into a glorious modern 21st century workhouse that make foxconn work conditions look like paradise. G4S shareholders will be happy though
That depends on what our governments do to rebuild things.
We've had big industry collapse before.
I predict that when the crunch comes she’ll put her party first, and that means she would favour a no-deal Brexit before no Brexit. Of course, parliament may well overrule her — as we’ll see this week.
Well maybe she is moar cleverer than I thought. She might just be banking on parliament blocking no deal so we end up remaining, but then it's parliament's fault not hers or the tories. Or is that too much cleverness?
That depends on what our governments do to rebuild things.
We’ve had big industry collapse before.
Well in the 80's when the old industries collapsed, the government of the time failed to invest in the areas most affected when they could have, and that has lead to the disillusion that created the victory for brexit. After brexit they won't be able to.
And besides we are talking about areas that haven't recovered from the 80's, it is nothing to do with a new industrial collapse, the finance will just not be there to even maintain the current welfare state, for what it has become never mind what it should be.
So far, Plan B seems remarkably similar to Plan A. Quelle surprise.
and still trying to pander to the lunatic fringe of the ERG and DUP instead of the majority.
Good to see her using the hard right line about a third referendum being undemocratic.
Its amazing how it became such when the brexit elite won as opposed to prior to the win.
As for loss of social cohesion. Is she even more deluded than I thought?
Is it groundhog day? She's just repeating her statement from last week, word for word
Is it groundhog day?
You'll be delighted to know that someone else agrees with you.
May is going back to the EU to get concessions on the Irish backstop. What is the difference between a concession and a legal assurance? He says May tried this before Christmas. “This really does feel like Groundhog Day.” said Jeremy Corbyn, 15 minutes ago.
And by waving the 65 pounds fees for European, she is going to piss the Erg off again. 😂😂
she is going to piss the Erg off again
nah Rees-Mogg gave her permission to do that. Looks like a bit of concession but is sod all in the greater scheme of things.
Not really, have a read of the comments on news websites, it is hilarious.
have a read of the comments on news websites,
Thats not the ERG though. It might be some of the poor saps who think the ERG and co cares about them and isnt going to screw them over but it definitely aint the brexit elite.
Most of whom are in favour of continuing immigration with a thin veneer of claiming to want to restrict it.
I sense the faint whiff of the Lexit case for ending FoM.
For once and for all!!
I'm starting to feel that May wants a no deal Brexit like the ERG. And that they are simply playing this game so they can plausibly deny that this is what they wanted when the economy tanks in the short to medium term.
I’m starting to feel that when May and her government works out what it wants there will probably be a parade.
Yep, I think May campaigned for remain pre referendum because she expected that to be the winning side, when remain lost she flipped to the other side. Typical tory mentality of winner takes all and **** everyone else, not even attempting to understand how close it was and the reasons behind the way people voted. Now she is just incapable of understanding why everyone else doesn't see it that way, that some want to actually protect the country from suicide.
It’s all so ****ed up, but what is even worse......it was never going to be any different.
Time is nearly up Theresa. Your choice.
You are either going to be the politician who actively delivers the worst financial catastrophe since the Great Depression as an actual policy and condemn us to lord knows what political extremism further down the line.
Or. You can grow a conscience and stand up to the bullies, thugs, louts and crooks.
This has little to do with the EU as well pointed out numerous times.
Tick........tock.
Sadly, I think she’s so craven to the idea that conservatism is always right that she might actually take us over the cliff.
I love that there's speculation that this brinkmanship (is that the right word?) is either running down the clock 'cause she's a nasty ERGomaniac or because she wants to Remain but wants to make it look like she doesn't.
Nobody knows what's going on in her head.
I’m starting to feel that May wants a no deal Brexit like the ERG
Thats pretty much where I am now too. They've held her hostage for so long that she's developed Stockholm Syndrome. I think she now so detatched from reality she actually believes their rubbish.
I can't see anything else now other than a proper catastrophic crash out that the ERG and all the gammons will rejoice at.
Just on a practical level, as this looks like how its going to go, hows everyone spending the fateful day?
We've booked our Brexit break. We're heading off to Snowdonia for a week on the 28th March. If it all goes to shit, which looks the most likely outcome, we're going to be well out of the way up a mountain somewhere, watching the world burn. I've obviously been stockpiling my tins of spam to take with us, but I haven't procured any firearms to protect my spam stash. Perhaps I should? I'm thinking a version of 28 Days Later
Whats everyone else up to? Any plans?
Good analysis there on the BBC.....