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So I went to my local barbers which is staffed by a number of ladies and a gentleman. Some people wait to have their haircut by a specific staff member, but I just take my chance with whoever.
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A new girl started today, and I had my haircut by her.
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She was very pretty and extremely well upholstered to the point that escape of said bosoms was a distinct possibility.
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So....If ladies dress like that, is it ok to look?
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Being a wet liberal type, I didn't stare, but wondered was it acceptable?
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Ideally I'd like comments from ladies as well as the usual ribaldry..


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 2:34 pm
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Whether or not it's acceptable to look, would you feel that telling strangers on an internet forum that you [i]did [/i]look was (a) affirming your manhood or (b) proving you are a lecherous old man?


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 2:36 pm
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I think providing you don't lick them as she leans over to wash your hair you'll be fine.
That's what I've found anyway.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 2:36 pm
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Just stare the next time, see what transpires.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 2:36 pm
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Its bad form not too.

A mate of mine used to get his missus to shave his head for him. He then convinced her that to avoid getting hair on her top and getting itchy, she should do it topless. She went for it too. He was always sporting a fresh number one all over


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 2:37 pm
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dunno bout obvious looking but using them as pillows when they move in close is acceptable.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 2:37 pm
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If they're showing, they're fair game. If women didn't want you to look, they'd hide them away.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 2:38 pm
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you don't need to risk being caught, that's why they have mirrors all over the place


 
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I didn't look largely because I don't think it's a pleasant thing to be ogled all day, but I'm intrigued as to what people think when they dress in revealing clothes.

I try to talk to the person, not the tits, if you know what I mean.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 2:39 pm
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Talk to the tits, not the person. Gauge the reaction to see if its ok to look at them.


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 2:41 pm
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It was interesting that the other ladies who work there and who I know to say hello to seemed to spend time watching me while she cut my hair. I suspect she may not last long if I read the signs right.


 
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Marvellous


 
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but I'm intrigued as to what people think when they dress in revealing clothes.

assuming you mean what women think i think it's safe to say that it's a long way from what men hope/wish/presume they thought

i often work with people who's job it is to look nice in or mostly out of clothes and they are just numb to it.


 
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It was interesting that the other ladies who work there and who I know to say hello to seemed to spend time watching me while she cut my hair.

Meanwhile, over on hairdresserworld.com ...

Is it ok to ogle a male customer if he's sporting a hard-on while looking at a colleague?


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 2:43 pm
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Druidh, I've been on nights and this was the first human interaction I've had for a week...


 
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meanwhile, over on crikeysworld

i'm the centre of all these girls attentions, they are jealous because i am looking at the new girls boobies. Should I:

a) encourage fighting (with various shampoos/conditioners used

b)....etc etc


 
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Genuine LOL @ druidh 😆


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 2:46 pm
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The other women in the hairdressers salon watched the new girl intently as she served the first customer. There was something about her that didn't quite fit in

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Posted : 20/05/2010 2:47 pm
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Ok, I'm not showing you the pics then.. FLOUNCE!


 
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So....If ladies dress like that, is it ok to look?

you should be ashamed of yourself!

Of course its ok to look. how dare you question your manlyness!


 
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Did she keep dropping her comb then, & did you notice if she was wearing panties 8O. A good clue if she wanted you to look is if she stood over ones of your legs when trimming your fringe so you get a faceful of boobies.


 
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Posted : 20/05/2010 2:50 pm
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which fine establishment is this?


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 2:53 pm
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I really miss having hair..... 🙁


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 2:56 pm
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Philistines the lot of you, I come on here asking a perfectly reasonable question with regard to modern manners and etiquette and all you can do is scoff. 😆
Now, how do I get my hair to grow quicker?


 
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When I go to get a massage (from a proper sports masseause type) she always rests her ample bosom on my head while working on my shoulders. I told her that was my favourite bit and she told my wife! She still does it though!


 
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a perfectly reasonable question with regard to modern manners and etiquette

I [i]think[/i] the well-mannered gentleman does not let any woman know that he has even noticed what she looks like while they are in public. In private it is sometimes appropriate to comment favourably, if he knows her well or if they are about to become intimate.


 
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[i]I think the well-mannered gentleman does not let any woman know that he has even noticed what she looks like while they are in public. In private it is sometimes appropriate to comment favourably, if he knows her well or if they are about to become intimate.[/i]

Ah BD, I see you have been well brought up and are thinking along the same lines as me.


 
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BigDummy with his commuting "companion" earlier toady.

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"Looking at cleavage is like looking at the sun. You don't stare at it!"

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I think BD is just improving his online image, in case any of the cyber stalkers he's picked up from his online dating activities have followed him here 🙂


 
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now, any gent will tell you they never look.

Thats just bollocks.

A guy at my work refused to comment on a beatiful woman who waltzed into our office one day, stating that he "loved his wife". when we all reported we loved her too, he got a bit angry.

I really dont see the issue with appreciating beauty, as long as its not done in the manner of a patron of a porn cinema (at least not in public)
its entirely natural for humans to seek out the best of the species for breeding so have no qualms keeping my eyes peeled. Of course the real trick is to do this while the wife is next to you 😉


 
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She was clearly begging for it


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 3:31 pm
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as gentlemanly as DruidH is, his membership of an internet dating site is proof, if any was needed, that in this day and age gentlemanly conduct is most often considered as some kind of disease by the fairer sex


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 3:36 pm
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a fella told me once:

"if women didnt want me to look at their ass, they better bend at the knee not at the hip.

Clear sign if they want it or not."

bit like fight club, do you you give them the balls or the ass.?.

rude not to imo.


 
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'Men look at women. Women watch themselves being looked at.'

I walked down the street today with very short shorts on. I know I'm going to be looked at, probably more than usual. I take the decision to wear them anyway because I balance the slight discomfort of self-consciousness with the pleasure I get out of wearing bright purple short shorts..

She obviously takes pleasure from displaying her bosom, and if you don't look, someone else will..


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 3:42 pm
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Ok, how would you feel if the lady in question was your wife, girlfriend, lover, daughter, etc.?
Still ok for everyone to lech?


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 3:43 pm
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Ok, how would you feel if the lady in question was your wife, girlfriend, lover, daughter, etc.?
Still ok for everyone to lech?

Sure, just don't touch.


 
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[i]Ok, how would you feel if the lady in question was your wife, girlfriend, lover, daughter, etc.?[/i]

How would you feel knowing that she was putting them out on display to other blokes? 🙂


 
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Ok, how would you feel if the lady in question was your wife, girlfriend, lover, daughter, etc.?

Well my ex had big boobs (34E) she always put on display, couldn't care less if other blokes looked, she dressed like that when I met her, it's not like I'm going to tell her to cover them up now I was her partner. Anyhow it's more to make other women jealous.

I walked down the street today with very short shorts on. I know I'm going to be looked at, probably more than usual.
Pics or STFU 😆


 
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[i]I walked down the street today with very short shorts on. I know I'm going to be looked at, probably more than usual. I take the decision to wear them anyway because I balance the slight discomfort of self-consciousness with the pleasure I get out of wearing bright purple short shorts..[/i]

Ok, so slightly more seriously...
Is there a conciously sexual element to your choice of clothing? Do you wear stuff in order to attract the attention of men?

I know there's a fine line between sexy and slapper, I also know that men are not very good at knowing where the line is...


 
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It has to be said though, that the OP has hinted at an interesting and as yet, mostly, unanswered question

So....If ladies dress like that, is it ok to look?

The hinted question behind this is what are people (usually ladies) thinking when choosing what to wear? What statement is a woman making when she wears a super short skirt and a top so low cut that it's a miracle the puppies don't spill out all by themselves? By and large blokes are tuned to spot these things quite quickly (and also quite adept at spotting and studying them without the SO noticing) and almost certainly will.


 
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Yes, that's what I'm getting at!


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 3:58 pm
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Appears we had the same thought and posted at the same time. I couldn't be bothered to modify my post at the time though.

Agree though crikey.

Bound to kill the thread now....


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 4:00 pm
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i've already alluded to this:

assuming you mean what women think i think it's safe to say that it's a long way from what men hope/wish/presume they thought


 
Posted : 20/05/2010 4:01 pm
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We need a lady to answer really, but I can't have my haircut again today.


 
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i'd ask mrsmw as she's a bit of a post feminist academic and i'm sure she could give an appropriately complicated answer

she's not here though so i'll jut continue to delude myself that it's done purely for my enjoyment


 
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Assuming that "miaowing_kat" is a lady not a bloke who likes to where short purple shorts I think she may be our only hope for an answer....


 
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Mmmm. Mrs crikey always chooses to err on the side of a less sexual approach to clothing, but I know* other ladies who dress with an eye on the effect they know it will have on men.
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I should have added a disclaimer - I was also wearing tights and was well covered on the top (though it was nicely cut 😉 )

I don't think I'm going to be able to speak on behalf of all the ladies out there... but I choose my clothes on what I think makes me look attractive (being an art student, I also like 'quirky' clothes, purely for the fun). I would rather men think 'she's good looking' than 'she's a bit of a munter'. and in an ideal world, the women would be thinking 'that's a nice top, I wish I had it'

Having said that, I've worn jeans and a tabbard and still overheard men 'leching'. As there was a strong piece of glass between us at the time, all it did was flatter, tbh.


 
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don't be confusing crikey's deluded fantasies with the real world here, he'll only get upset


 
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[i]crikey's deluded fantasies[/i]

I think I'm well aware of the discrepancy between mens ideas and the actuality!


 
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...not to say I don't have deluded fantasies....

Oops, getting a bit sfb.


 
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Thanks miaowing_kat


 
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[i]Ok, how would you feel if the lady in question was your wife, girlfriend, lover, daughter, etc.?
Still ok for everyone to lech? [/i]

Wife, yes.
Don't have any of the others.

Years ago I use to have my hair trimmed/cut every Friday (as I use to drop off the Team pools'). And always waited for one girl. It was a small barbers (if anyone knew Leeds about 20 years ago there was a barbers shop south of the river, behind Asda's IT centre) and she was very short - consequently she got very close...


 
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Most women dress to emphasise their good bits. However if their good bits are shown off too much it may become a bit on the tarty side.

I'm guessing she wanted you to look.
Now a quick look in my book is fine.
A drooling chap with a faraway look in his eye and a slightly evil grin, staring intently at the poor girl's breasts, who after all is only doing her job is not good.

I think she wanted a big tip.


 
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I think she wanted a big tip.

Is anyone going to pick that gauntlet up ?


 
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Remind me never to look at miaowing cats purple hot pants

http://secondillustration.blogspot.com/2009/12/oh-yeah.html

'spear him through the anus' 😯

thats a bit strong old girl........


 
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she likes Shellac though so is forgiven


 
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A mate of mine used to get his missus to shave his head for him. He then convinced her that to avoid getting hair on her top and getting itchy, she should do it topless. She went for it too. He was always sporting a fresh number one all over

Remember when you posted this a while back, thought it was worth a try

Complete knock back and just got told no way was she going to get itchy thrupenny bits


 
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They get upset if you look.
They get upset if you don't look.


 
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they just get scared if you look John


 
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If they don't want people to look then they shouldn't stick them out in front like that.


 
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The girl that used to cut my hair wore ridiculously short skirts. We had sort of this very conversation...

Me: Don't you worry about guys staring at your legs...

Her: [shrugs/] I've got great legs...

Me: Yes.., yes you have.


 
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Right, Mrs Crikey has given me her thoughts...

She says that the lady in question will be assuming that she looks attractive, that she has dressed in a in attractive way rather than in a way to provoke sexual attention. She agrees that there is a component of sexy dressing in any given situation, but it will usually not be the main influencing factor in the choice of clothing.
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If they're showing, they're fair game. If women didn't want you to look, they'd hide them away

+1. Dislike it when the wifes are on display and someone looks though - she's mine, all mine.......


 
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If you really want to go for the gauntlet - ask her to shampoo your hair next time...


 
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[i]If you really want to go for the gauntlet - ask her to shampoo your hair next time...[/i]
[b]So I went to my local barbers[/b]

Note the abscence of any suggestion that I had somehow ventured into a 'salon'....

It's a barbers, for [b][u]men[/u][/b].


 
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Sorry - my old local unisex salon was a much shorter walk than the barbers, and did a better line in coffee, cutting hair, and "delightful female conversation".

If you ask for your hair shampooed by a girl at a traditional barbers, you really are running the gauntlet. However, fortune favours the brave


 
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[i]However, fortune favours the brave[/i]
Mrs Crikey, however favours the breadknife...


 
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I'd say if there out she won't mind u have a sly look, if I want men to look at mine I put them on display, if I don't they stay covered up. Not rocket science. Just don't dribble if they get too close. 😆


 
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if I want men to look at mine I put them on display, if I don't they stay covered up

TTIWWP.

😉


 
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It's a barbers, for [b]men[/b].

where they like to hang out together and [b]bond[/b] (or is that [b]bone[/b] ?)


 
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I have no idea what that means captain


 
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Talking about haircuts - a true story. A family friend was once on a surgical ward waiting to be taken to theatre to have his hernia sorted. In the bed next to him sat a little old man quietly reading his paper, when in came a nurse with a bowl of hot water, soap and a gillette mach3 turbo. Curtains were pulled around the old man's bed, followed by a soapy sloshing, then a good ten minutes of scraping noises with the odd "Ouch!" and "Oops, mind how you go with that razor". The curtains were then pulled back and the nurse wheeled her trolley off into the distance back down the corridor. The old man said nothing and got back to reading his paper. Then, a few minutes later, the surgeon's entourage came round the ward and stopped at the old man's bed.
"All set for your operation, Mr Jones?"
"Yes, the nurse has been round and shaved the old meat 'n' two veg in the down belows too, thank you"
"What do you mean?" said the surgeon, "Your operation's on your thyroid gland in your neck?"
The old man looked puzzled and then said indignantly "Well, I don't know what you people do round here in the morning, I just thought it was all part of the service....mind you I did wonder why she singled me out for special treatment". It should have been our friend who was to be shaved prior to his hernia op. Well, it made me laugh at the time.
Apologies for that slight diversion. Please continue.....


 
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does that count as an "extra" ??


 
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Emma82 neither did I but Google is your friend....

TTIWWP This Thread Is Worthless Without Pictures


 
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I think she wanted a big tip.

Is anyone going to pick that gauntlet up ?

seriously, no one......

anyway, I suspect the young lady in question feels confident in herself, and enjoys getting the attention of men. There is nowt wrong with dressing to please yourself, and others
However if you go in there and yell "I'm going in, pull me out when I've gone blue" that might be crossing the line slightly...


 
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Right, Mrs Crikey has given me her thoughts...

She says that the lady in question will be assuming that she looks attractive, that she has dressed in a in attractive way rather than in a way to provoke sexual attention.

Are women not aware that there is no difference between these two for men?


 
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