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 Drac
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Finlay it landed on PS4 today.

I'm bust with the training missions to remind me how to play and get use to the controls.

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Posted : 27/06/2017 9:33 am
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Do you get the big cardboard matte for your keyboard like with the original?


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 10:51 am
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cool


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 10:53 am
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No I went a digital copy so might be why.


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 12:55 pm
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I was lucky enough to play Elite on the BBC B with potentiometer joystick,

Doubt this will come close


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 1:00 pm
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Bloody fiddly on the Xbox. Or mebbe I was just loads more adaptable when I played it on a BBC. Must have another go but wish there was a wally mode.


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 1:10 pm
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Is there a (rubber) keyboard add-on for PS4? If so I'm in!


 
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I was lucky enough to play Elite on the BBC B with potentiometer joystick,

Doubt this will come close

Me too 🙂 no self centring on the joystick either

My son got a new graphics card and joystick for his birthday. I'm very tempted to buy ED now...

Is it as time consuming as the original? How's the general feel of the game? Is it basically the same eg trade a bit, fight a bit, spend lots of time just flying towards planets? With online, do you just get slaughtered by players with fully powered up ships when you're starting out with your Cobra mk3?


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 1:55 pm
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Who remembers the final mission where you had to carry the details for the Thargoid battle plans to a place the other side of the galaxy and then each time you tried to travel to another system, you got pulled into hyperspace by the Thargoids and mercilessly attacked?


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 2:03 pm
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You were clearly spoiled. I had a tape only so no missions in my bbc... 😉


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 2:42 pm
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You were clearly spoiled. I had a tape only so no missions in my bbc...

Ah interesting, so the tape version had less data (which would makee sense since it took about 15 minutes to load anyway).

We originally had the tapee version but then we got a floppy disc drive and a disc version of the game. The first mission was to destroy the stolen development ship. Then the second mission, which got you to Elite, was the Thargoid mission.


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 2:45 pm
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So far I'm still getting the feel to it, as of yet I've not been attacked but it's only just out so no massively powered up players. Seems it will be time consuming but it's that kind of game.


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 2:46 pm
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it is rather involved, yes. on pc at least it is all online play, though you can run 'open' ( everyone in together ), a solo session ( no-one but you ), or private ( it's just you and your mates ). meaning that stuff you do does get accounted for in the universe, but you won't encounter other players. so if everyone stumbles on the same trade route for gold between two planets and starts caning it, the price of gold at the destination will drop, for instance.
this gives you a chance to find your feet.
i need to get back to it. i have two weeks off in august and i'm almost hoping for rain.... 😳


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 3:33 pm
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Hope it's better than on PC. The ocean is a mile wide, but an inch deep.


 
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Sorry, not sure what that means 😕


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 8:51 pm
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I had it on tape on my BBC b back in the day. Next year I might be looking at 4 to 6 weeks enforced recuperation following an op so may give it a go...


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 9:24 pm
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Disk on dual processor BBC B - that meant it even had colours!

😆


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 9:27 pm
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There's a 13GB ED update dropped for the Xbox today. Wonder if it's related? Cross-platform?


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 9:30 pm
 Drac
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Nope.


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 9:36 pm
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I played this on a mates VR rig recently (oculus). Omfggggggg. Absolutely amazeballs. Very immersive.


 
Posted : 28/06/2017 6:23 am
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it is rather involved, yes. on pc at least it is all online play

Which caused much controversy considering originally promising offline play. I still haven't bought it for one reason or another, but it's down to £10 at times on Steam. Though I wonder if at some point you can only get anywhere by getting the Horizons pack, though that's cheaper now too.


 
Posted : 28/06/2017 8:17 am
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I was an early backer for Elite Dangerous, having been a long standing Elite player over the last thirty years I [i]might[/i] not always have had legitimate copies of the game on my Speccy or Amiga so I thought I ought to do the honourable thing and support the crowdfund to the tune of £100.

All told, it's pretty much exactly what I envisaged a modern interpretation of Elite to be. There's plenty of interest and you can play in sandbox or online modes. The graphics are beautiful, but the high contrast means that either you need to ramp up the anti-aliasing settings or switch to a 4K monitor/TV.


 
Posted : 28/06/2017 8:30 am
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rift FTW 8)


 
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Well I've tried it now. I can see that I'd have loved it when I was a kid and it was certainly spectacular but I'm not sure I can dedicate the time necessary to it now, including watching lots of videos to work out trading, missions, etc


 
Posted : 28/06/2017 5:40 pm
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I've got my Cobra and running transport missions to build money up to kit out a fighter next. It's time consuming but you can play different mode including a fighting mode without joining the main game.


 
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Bought it for PC in steam sale last week but not yet launched it. What controller you using? Not sure I care enough to buy a hotas style thing and my limited gaming is on the sofa with the PC attached to my TV.

Edit - also good to see from your picture of the cover that I paid £3 less for it in 2017 than I did in 1984!


 
Posted : 28/06/2017 5:49 pm
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PS4 controller. 😀

Yeah it's mad how much games once were.


 
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I've got my Cobra and running transport missions to build money up to kit out a fighter next. It's time consuming but you can play different mode including a fighting mode without joining the main game.

You mean you don't start with a crap Sidewinder on PS4? Took forever to build up the cash for a Cobra on PC.

Top tip - never fly unless you have the cash to cover the insurance, you will cry, especially once you've got onto the bigger ships 🙂


 
Posted : 28/06/2017 6:45 pm
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You start with a sidewinder took a few missions to get the money for a cobra.


 
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Does this have a single player option or do I need PS+?
Not fussed about about multiplayer shenanigans


 
Posted : 01/07/2017 1:52 pm
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Random aside: I've been listening to some of the Doctor Who "full cast" audio books by Big Finish lately. One of the episodes was a blatant Top Gear pastiche, the premise was that they were filming a show called "Warp Speed" reviewing new space ships. Presenters were a politically incorrect lead called "Jeffrey," a sidekick known as The Ferret and so forth.

Anyway, one of the throwaway lines that cropped up from the James May character was "well, I think they make a mistake in moving away from the Cobra Mk3..."


 
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Ah interesting, so the tape version had less data (which would makee sense since it took about 15 minutes to load anyway).

If I remember correctly, only the disk version had the military laser as well, which made it a awful lot easier, you could basically blast apart most things when they were only a dot in the distance and then you're gracefully fly through the debris.


 
Posted : 01/07/2017 4:12 pm
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When full release Star Citizen is out (and its slowly getting there), it's going to blow your ****ing minds.


 
Posted : 01/07/2017 7:20 pm
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I hope so, I Kickstartered it about 37 years ago.


 
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Breatheasy, military lasers were available on the tape version


 
Posted : 01/07/2017 8:52 pm
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Does this have a single player option or do I need PS+?

There is a solo option but it needs a connection to the Elite server but seems not PS+

When full release Star Citizen is out (and its slowly getting there), it's going to blow your **** minds.

When but no PS4 plans so more like never.


 
Posted : 02/07/2017 4:48 pm
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Star Citizen. Jesus that's been early access since before my daughter was born. Have they sorted everything crapping out whenever the servers get stressed yet?

Cougar, that must work out at about £3 a year then 😉


 
Posted : 02/07/2017 5:13 pm
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Another ED player here (on PC).

I love it. It does have a very steep learning curve though but is worth it. Haven't played for a few months as been riding my bike but will be back soon.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 10:22 am
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Started to learn how to mine to earn some Cr so I but a hauler mine big time. I've a viper waiting to be kitted out for bounty missions.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 12:44 pm
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CMDR Wildc4rd in game, give me a shout if you want to team up for some RES Bounty Hunting. About 700 hours in game, since not long after it came out.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 1:36 pm
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Seem to go through phases with games, currently Diablo III. My time with elite dangerous is a much love hate relationship. Love the combat, used to just spend hours bounty hunting and amassed a around 50 million in credits before getting too cocky and getting blown apart by an Anaconda - I was only a viper mkIV so didn't last long at all. Haven't played it since in disgust at my own actions 🙁

Fantastic game though if you have time 🙂


 
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Is it possible to play ED online without becoming kiddy cannon fodder? I gave up on online gaming after respawn number 1000000000. I


 
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About 700 hours in game, since not long after it came out.

Say what now!


 
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Have they added a tutorial yet, or is it still "watch two hours' worth of videos?" I bought it on the Xbox a while back but don't think I've made it out of the hangar yet.

I had a quick play on the PC version when it was in beta. I was trying to work out the controls, managed to take off, then found the "fire" button before finding "thrust." The station's internal defences activated and shot me to ribbons, my inaugural flight was about five yards.


 
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Seem to go through phases with games, currently Diablo III.

I've just picked D3 back up again, there's a new Necromancer expansion out which is very silly.


 
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About 700 hours in game, since not long after it came out.
Say what now!

I was single at the time, it allows for gaming as well as cycling!


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 2:01 pm
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Is it possible to play ED online without becoming kiddy cannon fodder? I gave up on online gaming after respawn number 1000000000. I

Solo or Private means there's only NPCs or trusted players.

Have they added a tutorial yet, or is it still "watch two hours' worth of videos?" I bought it on the Xbox a while back but don't think I've made it out of the hangar yet.

Yup there's tutorials.

Say what now!

A whole one hour or less per day.


 
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I've only played a couple of hours including the tutorials and haven't been shot at yet, playing online. Maybe just lucky but it seems fine from that pov.

Couple of questions for those who've played more. How do you know where to dock once you've requested permission? I know it's highlighted but if it's out of view on a large station it's not always obvious. Second, tip for a good, reasonably safe trade route early on?


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 4:17 pm
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There's a targeting area to the left of the scanner that looks like a crosshairs, bring he blue dot into there if it's solid it's in front of you, if the dot is clear then it's behind.

If you enetering a port you look for the side that's rotating anit-clockwise.

I've not had issues trading been locked on to take out of hyperspace a few times but if take the escape route, only the on time did they get me out of hyperspace but I just jumped again, they persuaded me but they got killed as they entered federation space.


 
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Is it possible to play ED online without becoming kiddy cannon fodder? I gave up on online gaming after respawn number 1000000000.

I play in Open on PC all the time, only once had trouble from other players, pair of Fer de Lance camping the Station Slot and blowing anything up that flew in.

Vast majority are OK. Went back on this weekend and hunted down a couple of Thargoid bases. Quite creepy to land at drive a SRV round.

Didn't have the Unknown Artifacts for getting inside the base and playing with the Thargoid Machinery. YouTube video is impressive.

Easiest way of making money I found is Passenger Missions. I use this Dolphin build:

https://eddp.co/u/BFoFX1d3

Depending on reputation and the mission you can make 2 to 4 million a run. Bigger rewards if you're willing to risk passengers with a wanted rating or long distance trips.

Biowaste from some Planetary bases can be lucrative as well.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 5:43 pm
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This book has an excellent chapter on how the original game was written and squeezed into under 32MB.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Backroom-Boys-Secret-Return-British/dp/0571214975


 
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I've had it for a while, it was either a beta or some other pre-release version. I have put in a good few hours, but tbh not enough going on for me. Easy enough to trade at profit, only once attacked by another person and NPC easy to avoid.

There seem to have been loads of releases and generally new content since I last dabbled, so I may give it another go when I've got time and use of both my hands back 🙁


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 7:36 pm
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This book has an excellent chapter on how the original game was written and squeezed into under 32MB.

It was all procedurally generated, wasn't it? Very clever.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 7:56 pm
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Finally got it for pc on monday, already clocked up a few hours on it <yawn>
Had a go at the training options but still quite frustrating play on Monday evening, watched a bunch of vids and had a better experience last night. Few kill steals got me enough cash for a cobra, *just* enough, only had credits left over for 1 buy back, went out and got a couple of bounties so I've got cash for 2 buy backs now, still a nervy experience tho.
Got knocked about a bit by an NPC which destroyed my scanner so I couldn't target/contact station to get landing permission. Googling found a reboot option, turn off the whole ships systems, turn it on again, scanner back in 1% condition, enough to do the job. I thought it was pretty cool, quite hidden away in sub menus tho.

tips from my mistkes/experiences
in super cruise keep it at 100% throttle til 6s to go then drop to 75%, often feels like you're going to overshoot but everything should line up for blue.
Find a wanted ship near nav beacon or high RES (if you can find one), wait for system defence/whoever to batter it down to <40% hull (lower for bigger ships) then start firing, big ships get you >100k bounty
Listen to docking confirmation and note the pad number I tried landing on someone else's pad last night 😕
You need to be facing the correct direction to land, usually away from the entrance.


 
Posted : 05/07/2017 10:34 am
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Yeah I got caught a few times by landing on the wrong pad.


 
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I've just picked D3 back up again, there's a new Necromancer expansion out which is very silly.

Yup i remembered about the new exp the other day and thought i'd give it a go. seems very silly indeed and not exactly as i thought when remembering d1/d2 still a bit fun and addictive though, "oh just one more rift"


 
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This book has an excellent chapter on how the original game was written and squeezed into under 32MB.
Lol. It's as if the kilobyte never even existed. Kids today, etc. 🙂


 
Posted : 05/07/2017 11:09 am
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I've got it, bought the horizons pack too.

Man is this game complex.

Dull too at times.


 
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If you buy the horizons season pass, does it expire or cover just one of the expansions or all up to 2.5 (as it suggests) after which the would be a new one?


 
Posted : 05/07/2017 11:45 am
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Gerneally Season Passes cover future add ons but as you say it's not that clear.


 
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So, at £14 is horizons worthwhile assuming it'll only go up to 2.4?


 
Posted : 05/07/2017 12:15 pm
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I've not bought it yet but it looks promising.


 
Posted : 05/07/2017 12:24 pm
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anyone know about community goals? Even the lowest payout is a big one for a n00b, but I did some [i]bring order to rakapila[/i] bounty hunting last night got 3 bounties and I still don't seem to qualify for the "100% tier" yet any ideas what the minimum is to qualify? (I did sign up for it before the kills)

Similarly the trade ones any ideas how many items you have to import to get onto the score table?


 
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This book has an excellent chapter on how the original game was written and squeezed into under 32MB.

That should read [i]Kilo[/i]bytes. I'm currently working with a .csv file which is 10KB larger!

The idea was to procedurally generate each star and planet system, according to a basic template of rules which meant that each time you played, the procedurally generated star, planet, government, pirate activity etc would be exactly the same. The names of planets were generated this way too, with coding rules implemented to ensure that no matter how far across the seven galaxies you flew, you'd never find a planet named "Knob".


 
Posted : 05/07/2017 1:24 pm
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Not tried any yet Donk but will be soon, busy with some transport missions as so type I can pimp out my viper.


 
Posted : 05/07/2017 1:29 pm
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Ok.

After flying into the wrong zone losing 2 ships I tried to Nav Beacon area waiting for wanted to fly in, after a about 30 mins I got 2 kills. One was for a 200k bounty so I've got my Cr back for lost ships. Seems you have to get the right bounty the wanted by the Rakapila not the federation, hand them in your vouchers. Currently I'm in the 75% with 22 hours to go a potential 4.5m Cr. 😀


 
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Broke my collarbone a couple of weeks so this games gonna be a godsend! Currently cruising about in a Cobra wondering which direction to take it i.e Pirate/explorer etc


 
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Lol. It's as if the kilobyte never even existed. Kids today, etc

Valid point.

32KB.

I used to dream of that much memory - having learnt to program on a machine (PDP-11/70) where you had to bootstrap Basic.


 
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good luck commanders o7

i love elite dangerous (i play on xb1).

to begin with it's bloody difficult to get to grips with,but once you start to get the hang of things the game gets a lot better.

i have to take a break from it now and again as i overplay the game (it can be very addictive).

watch out for thargoids (and nair do well pirates).

EDIT i would definitely recommend the horizons dlc as you won't be able to land on any planets or go to any engineers to upgrade your ship otherwise.

as for the season pass i think it will cover up to 2.4 and then they are getting rid of the season passes (i think but could be wrong).


 
Posted : 05/07/2017 5:19 pm
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Messed up twice and lost another 2 ships, still in the 75% percentile though and also just done a transport mission which has secured me another 500k. I'm going to pop on again for a little bit to boost these hopefully to secure a bit more and push me up the percentile.


 
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Dammit! Horizons just went up to full price on steam 🙄


 
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This 'auto-dock' malarkey saves a bit of time!


 
Posted : 05/07/2017 9:29 pm
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Yup upgraded 2 ships with that.

Wide awake as I've been nights, all being well tomorrow I should make about 10m Cr.


 
Posted : 05/07/2017 10:18 pm
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squeezed into 16kb actually. 16kb was for the system. 😉
see you in the black commanders 😀


 
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Only just reach 2m cr 😳 what's the best ship for passenger missions?


 
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It's easy to be cynical about Star Citizen...but I think development is quicker with each passing month.

These are different videos, despite the same preview image.

Millenium Falcon like space ships you can walk around, great space combat, ship boarding, railguns, beautiful desert world, speeder bikes and a freaking giant worm.

Yeah, Star Was doesn't have shit on this. If it's good, it will be the sci-fi worlds game equivalent to 1977.


 
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How's the ED "landing on planets" work? Does it turn into an FPS?


 
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No ED doesn't, landing feels pretty seamless - but the best you can do is bash around in a rover type thing.


 
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Posted earlier in thread, the link below is to the Coriolis Ship build site.

Dolphin with 6 person First Class cabin. Gives me about 4 million a tourist mission. You can get more passenegers in if you drop the class to business but the rewards don't go up that much.

Dolphin is probably the cheapest way to start on passenger missions, Asp Explorer can work well, especially if you're messing about with wanted or high risk passengers and may need to fight.

Dolphin build is about 8 million including the ship cost. You don't need the 4A fuel scoop and Advanced Discovery Scanner at first so can save a bit there.

Just need another 20 or 30 million and I'll have enough with trade in to exchange my Python for an Anaconda.

https://eddp.co/u/BFoFX1d3

If you're bounty hunting at Nav Beacons then fit a Warrant Scanner if there is room. Standard scan gives you bounty for the current system only, the Warranty scan gives bounties in all systems so you can increase the rewards.


 
Posted : 06/07/2017 5:46 am
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Cheers Allan.

I raised about 500k last night bouncing cargo back and forth for the community challenge so bought a passenger cab for my Cobra.

My Viper has a Warranty Scanner fitted, I keep messing up though and picking targets I shouldn't take on. Even the Federation couldn't take down one in time I started attacking before I died. 😆

Yeah Star Citizen will happen, one day, it looks amazing I've watched videos but it's PC only and currently still not planning on building another Gaming PC.


 
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