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[Closed] Elfin's Tuesday Architectural Appreciation Thread! Hospitals and that.

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Trevalyn hospital , wher i was born in Wrexham is now flats,

War memorial hospital in wrexham now a college,

West cheshire hospital, now countess, in chester, nearly all gone, and replaced with housing,

Chester royal infirmary, gone, now housing,

City hospital, now gone for housing,

Walton Hospital, now disapearing,

Birkenhead maternity, now gone housing,

Birkenhead hospital, now gone,

Heswall hospital(2) now gone, one is the site of a tesco.

Seems as if hospitals are getting knocked down,and replaced, people mustnt be il so much now.


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 9:18 pm
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28dayslater is a great site for old derelict hospitals, well worth a look

I've been round Hellingly it's not far from me though I hear they've started to demolish it for development now. Was quite a strange place to be, absolutely massive. There were 5 of us and we decided to split up and see what it was like on your own. New pants scary! No phone reception and in the dormitory section it's designed so sound doesn't travel, which isn't great when you're trying to find your mates. Some brilliant graff though:

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Posted : 19/04/2011 9:19 pm
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Flashy; that's only because you've bin scrubbing it furiously with a wire brush and neat Dettol....


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 9:20 pm
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Flashy; that's only because you've bin scrubbing it furiously with a wire brush and neat Dettol....

*Winces* That's gotta sting!
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Greenaways Maternity Hospital, Chippenham; where I wuz born. Not there anymore, the site's a business park, one outfit's involved in lots of space missions.


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 9:32 pm
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I wooduv thought you'd be paying a discrete visit to a place down this street, Flashy:

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😉


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 9:34 pm
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Project - old hospitals are lovely buildings not suitable for healthcare in the 21st century.


 
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mcmoonter - all the 'Maggie's Centre's' are architecturally beautiful buildings. It's good to see that much care going into creating life-affirming and aesthetic environments for cancer patients.


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 9:40 pm
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Project - old hospitals are lovely buildings not suitable for healthcare in the 21st century.

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Sadly the new ones dont seem to be either,

I agree TJ


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 9:59 pm
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Project - old hospitals are lovely buildings not suitable for healthcare in the 21st century.

I suspect that applies more in cases where the hospital requirements are such, that it requires a high tech building.

Many small local cottage hospitals can often supply a local need (including to elderly patients or those with family close by) which large far away high tech hospitals don't need to match. And I can't help feeling that beautiful grounds and gardens in a psychiatric hospital might outweigh the need for computer floors.

I'm sure that large modern high tech hospitals are vital though.


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 10:04 pm
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~Ernie - even in less demanding settings. Open wards are bad for cross infection risk, divide them up you get awkward spaces. Not enough toilets, moving and handling safely is difficult, never enough storage, lots of issues. too many steps, lousy inefficient heating and ventilation systems. Even with a complete interior strip out and rebuild they remain compromised and its as cheap to build new buildings.

A pleasant environment is therapeutic tho no doubt about it. Trees and space is important. Local cottage hospitals are good but need new buildings


 
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TJ - there's Ulrich's research on the postive effect that a view of 'greenspace' (ie trees etc) had on recovery times from surgery. Not sure how many city centre hospitals are in green environments though, or how the relative importance of that sits with the quality of the building, or the level of high tech?


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 10:19 pm
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Bodelwydan hospital near Rhyl, was going to be knocked down, now being stripped of asbestos and being refurbished.

I worked in a large Psychiatric hospital, lovely grounds and lawns, plenty of space, etc, built in 1829, fantasic planning of the building, now being demolished and some parts being converted to offices for paper pushers.

Oh th patients sent into care in the comunity , bag of tablets and left to wander the streets.


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 10:20 pm
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Single bed rooms are the way to go but they take up more space, and cost considerably more,


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 10:22 pm
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I wooduv thought you'd be paying a discrete visit to a place down this street, Flashy:

Where is that?

I was born here:
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I think...... the labour ward was actually in the tin sheds at the back and it's been done out since I got shoved into the world.

Spent mucho time here as a kiddie too... [img] [/img]
Grim, in every way possible 🙁

Edit: actually I think I might have been born in Gloucester hospital too, I'll have to ask my mum.


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 10:27 pm
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It's Harley St, Emma. Where posh folk go to have their, well, you know, 'infections' seen too in discrete clinics... 😉

Another pic of the Gherkin. 😕 Is that a hospital on the right? I don't know about that one.

Lots of old hospital buildings have inadequate disability access, and only staircases in most parts. Installing new-type stuff like large lifts, and ventilation systems and stuff can be prohibitively expensive, as the old buildings are properly solidly built, and a nightmare to adapt to modern requirements. Sadly, it's often easier to knock them down or sell them off and build from new.

Loony Bins are often pretty nice buildings, for some reason:

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Danvers State Asylum in Massachusetts.


 
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lol, so we'll see you rocking out of there on a regular basis then?

This thread is proper depressing, I've just Googled all the hospitals I've spent weeks in over the years and I'm in a right mood now 🙁

Can't you do one on something happy? But not next week, I'm on holiday next week and too tight to pay for holiday Internets to log on 😯


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 10:41 pm
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Not me love. I'll go to Devons Road GUM clinic. If I need to. Which I don't so shut up! 😳

Actually I'm not sure if it's still open, that one...

Mate of mine had to go, a few years ago. Had to have the old 'metal umbrella' treatment. No, you really, really don't want to know. You really don't. 😥

Next week is prisons possibly Emma, so you might be well out of that one. 😯


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 10:43 pm
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Hospital in Arles by Van Gogh

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Posted : 19/04/2011 10:48 pm
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Elf - my little pics were of Broadmoor. Incredible looking Victorian asylum. Would love to see inside but don't reckon that's going to happen!


 
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pics were of Broadmoor. Incredible looking Victorian asylum. Would love to see inside but don't reckon that's going to happen!

Keep dragging home putrid badger cadavers, and you might be in luck 💡


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 10:55 pm
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Posted : 19/04/2011 10:58 pm
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For CG:

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Posted : 19/04/2011 11:05 pm
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I think she wants to see inside Elfie. I found this :

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The armchairs don't look very comfy.


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 11:30 pm
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Royal Chelsea must get a mention.


 
Posted : 19/04/2011 11:38 pm
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Well they certainly kit out their patients nicely Mooly

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Posted : 19/04/2011 11:51 pm
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Yeah, all this poor Broadmoor patient (seen here shaking hands with boxing legend Frank Bruno as broadcasting legend Sir Jimmy Saville looks on approvingly) gets is a nasty shell-suit. Where's the dignity in that, I ask you?

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Posted : 19/04/2011 11:56 pm
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That bloke in the shell suit looks like a French HGV driver. They seem inordinately fond of shell suits for some reason.


 
Posted : 20/04/2011 12:16 am
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That bloke in the shell suit looks like a French HGV driver

You do know that's the Yorkshire Ripper ?..........or am I missing an ironic comment ? 😕

Yes a HGV driver, but not French.


 
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Next week is prisons possibly Emma, so you might be well out of that one.

Just as well, prisons always look minging I think, never been in one either! think of something nice to start on 3rd may!!! I'm off to board a boat to France now. Bye bye.


 
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