The SPFL needs to step in and dock them a few points. 20 should do.
How many police officers and vehicles to arrest say 1000people?
so now we have mob rule? The police are no longer able to do the job of policing?
It's weird how as a supporter of one of the Diddy teams you can hate one half of the old firm more that the other.
They really are the people
I know the police are between a rock and a hard place on this.
But why are they escorting them?
But why are they escorting them?
Basically keep them as contained as possible. Minimise the risk of them kicking off
How many police officers and vehicles to arrest say 1000people?
You don't have to arrest 1,000. Just enough to send a message. That would best have been done yesterday - along with a warning from the SPFL about the consequences of a repeat.
TBH. I'm of a mind that they can now **** right off with the current restrictions. I'll not be alone.
But why are they escorting them?
Escort? That's just part of the mob.
It is known that genetically,the Huns are much less likely to be hospitalised with covid than other races.
chickenman
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It is known that genetically,the Huns are much less likely to be hospitalised with covid than other races
Are you sure? I though obesity was a factor in how bad Covid can be? It's just that the Rangers shop will sell you a 4xl replica strip....
Not a single word from ibrox telling fans to go home was there?
The police came around my area breaking up small gatherings of the tits setting off fireworks.
If it's possible, I hate football even more this morning than I already did. Just to completely generalise and I shouldn't lump in proper followers of the diddy teams, but I'm utterly fed up with the general idiocy that surrounds football and it's 'fans' in general.
Tempted to break travel curfew and go for that just-beyond-local bike ride in the arse-end of nowhere I've been missing for the past 6 months now.
It’s weird how as a supporter of one of the Diddy teams you can hate one half of the old firm more that the other.
I don't even follow football and have the same feelings. A "small" bonfire last night that you could see the flames over the tops of the houses and fireworks all bloody night.
In an act of pure genius we are undergoing an hmie inspection this week. That's what a secondary school needs as they try to work out classes, numbers, timings etc for a blended education model. A paperwork exercise.
It's not as though the shared management brain cell isn't stretched enough. I have an unsettling feeling of almost sympathy for them (probably just anxiety knowing it means we'll find out Thursday what Monday holds)
Hahahahahahahahahaha...seriously? We are due one as our HT has been in 3 years but that's a jobby sandwich with a suspiciously yellow cup of juice on the side. How are they going to assess classroom ethos, welcome,heck even learning just now? SURELY that will be postponed.
If it’s possible, I hate football even more this morning than I already did. Just to completely generalise and I shouldn’t lump in proper followers of the diddy teams, but I’m utterly fed up with the general idiocy that surrounds football and it’s ‘fans’ in general.
Absolutely. I don't even dislike the game. I hate and don't understand the dickhead element that associates itself with football, its unique to one sport.
If Covid cases spike in a fortnight in Glasgow we will know who to blame. Although no doubt the culprits will be the ones moaning most loudly that the pubs are still shut.
What will be interesting to observe will be whether there is a genuine traceable spike in rates due to this. Or will it be another BLM/busy beaches/packed Loch Lomond that doesn't appear to lead to a spike helping to prove that outdoor transmission is very low risk so we can all go ride bikes together again.
Then again, the indoor after parties which also no doubt happened may skew my scientific research.
Not in anyway condoning their actions BTW - numpties.
I went for a ride 2.5 miles outside of my LA yesterday morning, felt a bit guilty (as an aside, never seen the place so busy with walker! Luckily most people seem unable to leave the gravel roads in the area). Felt a lot less guilty by the end of the day
@duckman nope going ahead. HT in meetings all day today with them. It's a level 2??????
We were inspected last year think this is the follow up but still. They could just leave it a wee while.
I hate and don’t understand the dickhead element that associates itself with football, its unique to one sport.
It's bizarre isn't it. I can't think of another sport like it in terms of fan behaviour.
If the Scotland rugby team win an away match, the fans don't turn up outside an empty Murrayfield to celebrate.
When Lewis Hamilton wins a GP his fans don't head to the local go-karting for a party.
The only thing that comes remotely close that I can think of is American football where they have tailgate parties in the parking lot outside the stadium
@duckman nope going ahead. HT in meetings all day today with them. It’s a level 2??????
We were inspected last year think this is the follow-up but still. They could just leave it a wee while.
that's crazy - I can't understand a school/LA management who haven't objected strongly to unnecessary footfall. In my world, the only inspection/audit stuff taking place face to face is where there is a statutory obligation to do it in a particular timescale. We are doing all other stuff virtually or postponing.
Equally, I'm rather surprised that HMIE's risk assessment is actively encouraging their staff to attend premises with large numbers of people - unless there is some pressing priority.
It’s bizarre isn’t it. I can’t think of another sport like it in terms of fan behaviour.
If the Scotland rugby team win an away match, the fans don’t turn up outside an empty Murrayfield to celebrate.
When Lewis Hamilton wins a GP his fans don’t head to the local go-karting for a party.
The only thing that comes remotely close that I can think of is American football where they have tailgate parties in the parking lot outside the stadium
Personally, I'd say they have just shown that "elite" football cannot go ahead even with no crowds in the stadium because the fans are idiots (and whilst I accept that particular types of fans are particularly likely to be the issue, I don't think you can honestly say that fans from the other top half a dozen clubs are that much better). Time for SportScotland to revoke the special permission for elite football - given the clubs and their governing bodies don't seem to have their act together?
The Gael's take on it. NSFW
poly
Free MemberPersonally, I’d say they have just shown that “elite” football cannot go ahead even with no crowds in the stadium because the fans are idiots (and whilst I accept that particular types of fans are particularly likely to be the issue, I don’t think you can honestly say that fans from the other top half a dozen clubs are that much better). Time for SportScotland to revoke the special permission for elite football – given the clubs and their governing bodies don’t seem to have their act together?
Don't think it's fair to punish all clubs tbh. I mean yes most clubs will have had breaches of some sort, some worse than others but most don't have these thunder****s and as far as I can tell most fans are raging to see it. Making the whole class stay back late is never a good idea.
The tools to handle it are all there and just not being used. Police action at the time, yes. Club specific penalty afterwards, yes. I don't see how it's any different from how you'd handle a riot or mass fighting after a match, usually. Instead, they've just been allowed to do it so of course it's going to keep on happening.
(the covid risk of a small gathering probably isn't that bad; but the risk of allowing repeated gatherings are)
As an English guy living in Scotland but not a follower of football, it's very interesting to read about football affiliations to things like SNP, lockdown etc. Much to learn.
Does anyone have any thoughts on when trail centres might open?
Anyway, and thoughts on when trail centres might open?
Open now. Or at least all the ones I'm in legal travel distance are I think.
I thought that Nicola Sturgeon had said that football was on a red card after Celtic Dubai trip and the Rangers footballers having a party on a Saturday night?
You cannot say such things and then not act.
In an act of pure genius we are undergoing an hmie inspection this week
If I were management, I would be seriously objecting to that on so many grounds.
Having been subject to Rangers fans tirade of abuse, foul language, sectarian chants and sexual innuendo on a flight before, I've no surprise they behave like this. The pilot had to call the police in Southampton - who didn't get to the airport on time.
I'm hoping that Scottish Government and SFA respond in a meaningful way. But I'm not holding my breath.
It’s not something I’m proud of, but I really do live in a bubble about this stuff.
It's not something to be ashamed of either, quite frankly if you can avoid that section of society you'll do well (football fannies as opposed to football fans)
Looks like "organised non-contact sports and organized group exercise" in groups of 15 adults is back on. I wonder what the definition of "organised" is/will be? Might be back to having a Covid Officer in place.
friday can meet outdoors 4 adults 2 households.
12-17 yos, 4 people, no household restrictions.
non contact sports, up to 15, allowed for everyone from friday.
I wonder what the definition of “organised” is/will be?
The last word I'd ever use to describe the group of mates I rides bikes with is "organised" 🙂
🙂
Thought about taking up cat herding? Or nailing blancmange to a wall?
If it's organized on Whatsapp will that count? 😉
Looks like “organised non-contact sports and organized group exercise” in groups of 15 adults is back on. I wonder what the definition of “organised” is/will be? Might be back to having a Covid Officer in place.
Though the Scot Gov website makes no mention of the need for it to be organised, just states group exercise.
"Outdoor non-contact sports and group exercise will also resume for adults in groups of up to to 15 people from this date."
https://www.gov.scot/news/changes-to-level-4-restrictions/
Whoah there, hold the fort, so can I meet up in a bigger group to go riding?
Though the Scot Gov website makes no mention of the need for it to be organised, just states group exercise.
“Outdoor non-contact sports and group exercise will also resume for adults in groups of up to to 15 people from this date.”
What do people make of the implication of this change for solo activity?*
I have to say that I will be extremely tempted to drive to the Tweed Valley this weekend. I live in the Borders but have been sticking to a very local interpretation of the 'local' exercise restriction. Surely if groups of 15 can now meet outside then me driving around an hour to ride alone in a forest can't really even be frowned upon.
*fnar fnar
Though the Scot Gov website makes no mention of the need for it to be organised, just states group exercise.
Yeah, that's just the text of the announcement. I'd expect more detail to be published by Friday. "Organised" previously meant according to the guidance laid out by the sports governing body (e.g. Cycling UK / SportScotland).
What do people make of the implication of this change for solo activity?*
None whatsoever. The advice is still not to travel.
me driving around an hour to ride alone in a forest can’t really even be frowned upon.
Your choice. Given some of the ass-hattery around, I certainly wouldn't condemn you for it. And don't tell anyone but I drove for 25 minutes to go for a walk yesterday.
big_scot_nanny
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Whoah there, hold the fort, so can I meet up in a bigger group to go riding?
yes, travel restrictions still in place mind. will be more to come.
Updated 9th March
https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/
Some of the rules on what you can and cannot do will change on Friday 12 March:
- up to 4 adults from up to 2 households can meet outdoors – you should still stay as close to home as possible
- adults can take part in outdoor non-contact sport and organised group exercise in groups of up to 15 people
Examples of reasonable excuses to go out:
- local outdoor informal exercise such as walking, cycling, golf, or running (in groups of up to 2 people, plus any children under 12, from no more than 2 households). Exercise can start and finish at a place in your local authority area (or up to 5 miles from its boundary), but you should travel no further than you need to reach to a safe, non-crowded place to exercise in a physically distanced way.
Yeah. I know...
Guess which bit I'd be adhering too? 😁
Just seen this on the ScotGov page
Updated guidance and regulations will be published on Friday 12 March to reflect these changes.
It wouldn't surprise me if the difference between organised and informal was back to how it was before - needing the appointment of a Covid Officer and following certain guidelines.
