I also remember clearly the first minister saying we would definitely move out of tier 4 on the 11th although what tier we would move to was not clear. They're now potentially backtracking on that
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-55206120
I also remember clearly the first minister saying we would definitely move out of tier 4 on the 11th although what tier we would move to was not clear. They’re now potentially backtracking on that
Tier 5 🤣
Falkirk has 4 Lows and 1 Very Low and they are in Tier 3? It even says “consistent improvement in case numbers and test positivity in last week” for them
Aberdeen have a Medium, a High, A very Low and two Lows and they are in Tier 2, lower than Falkirk.
Right enough, that doesn’t make much sense. They seem to be pretty slow at moving tiers downwards, erring on the side of caution I suppose. Here in Aberdeen we got a reprieve as apparently a good chunk of the new cases were specific outbreaks that were being managed (one at the hospital apparently). If the numbers don’t improve this week I expect we’ll be going up.
Yeah, I wouldn't expect the high number of infections at Faslane to condemn the whole of Argyll and Bute.
I did not see the beginning of Nicola Sturgeon's press conference today, but I did hear that she has said that all of the areas currently on tier 4 will be moving down this Friday.
Personally speaking I could put up with restaurants, bars and non-essential shops staying closed, but I really do wish they would re-open the gyms again. My mental and physical health is suffering as a result of not being able to exercise. Spring and summer was okay because I could get out and do some cycling, but cycling at this time of year is grim.
Hohum
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I did not see the beginning of Nicola Sturgeon’s press conference today, but I did hear that she has said that all of the areas currently on tier 4 will be moving down this Friday.
Seems like it level 3 for glasgow and the surrounding, but they shouldn't be lowering for another couple of weeks yet if you ask me.
Aye, we got sucked into easing too much earlier in the year, Wales should serve as a warning to easing restrictions - apparently port talbot area has in excess of 600 infections per 100k. Ooft.
I see Wills and Kate (and entourage) are in Edinburgh on a "COVID Morale Boosting Tour", going round the whole UK.
But no cross border travel?
Nicola Sturgeon was asked about the Wills and Kate visit. She said to ask the Royal press office.
It's their job innit? Can travel for work.
That is particularly outrageous. does the travel thing not have the force of law? their are exceptions to it but not for a propaganda tour
yourguitarhero
Wills and Kate (and entourage) are in Edinburgh on a “COVID Boosting Tour"
Fixed it for you...
there shouldnt be a level system if they are not going to stick to it, west dumbartonshire should be level 2 on friday but i cant see it ,
roads still seem busy in level 4 and the retail parks are mobbed , all level 4 has done has stuck it to the small businesses and hospitality ,
At least all hospitality has all been treated the same, must be bloody galling for all the wee independent shops seeing the big stores hoovering up their business even more than usual.
It's embarrassing that the likes of DFS is still open.
I can understand the need for essential shops staying open during tier 4, but I have to question just how essential some shops really are.
I was out with my children doing some errands this evening and we noticed that a sweet shop up the road from us was open. It sells nothing apart from sweets!
kirkg - errmmm - thats a resident of edinburgh who works in Edinburgh going to a place in Edinburgh so not outwith the guidance.
So it isn’t a propaganda tour?
Fife which is is also in level 3 doesn’t even allow relatives into hospital so I’m sure Edinburgh will have similar protocols.
She's pretty much held responsible for everything that happens in the NHS in Scotland, so I don't think it's propaganda.
The inbred tour is definitely not required.
And that means she has to go into the hospitals? And there needs to be cameras there?
It’s pretty obvious what she’s up to.
I’m not exactly a fan of the royals but you can’t have it both ways.
Name calling isn’t a great look.
One is breaking the rules, one is not.
Both are skirting the rules by saying they are doing their jobs.
I see no difference.
You'll see I posted earlier that the royals were doing their jobs, I'm not 'having it both ways'.
I'd say the national healthcare system falls under sturgeons remit though, the royals less so.
kirkg
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Both are skirting the rules by saying they are doing their jobs.I see no difference.
in fairness, it's no really skirting the rules. Those are the rules. 😆
kirkg
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And that means she has to go into the hospitals? And there needs to be cameras there?It’s pretty obvious what she’s up to.
I’m not exactly a fan of the royals but you can’t have it both ways.
Name calling isn’t a great look.
Electioneering? A politician, surely not? 😆
kirkg
Free MemberSo it isn’t a propaganda tour?
There'll be an element of that of course, there can't really not be. But she's the first minister, the NHS is her job and her responsibility. I'm sure if she didn't visit hospitals people would criticise her for "ignoring our NHS heroes" or "being afraid to face doctors" etc.
I can understand the need for essential shops staying open during tier 4, but I have to question just how essential some shops really are.
there is little to no difference between tier 3 and tier 4 that I can see in terms of shops. The retail park at the top of my street is fully open and mobbed with folk doing essential Christmas shopping.
Only difference I notice with these restrictions is that the local riding spots are unbelievably busy and the trails are getting well and truly knackered. Its fire roads and lanes for me until the dry weather comes.
^^^^^ my riding for the past month or so has been restricted to Whitelee Windfarm, which is 5 miles of back roads away from home, so I ride to and round it if roads are safe to ride, or pop bike on the rack and drive there if not (icy, dark). Whilst the main access points are outwith my home LA it is complaint for me to drive there to start and finish at the same point.
I have noticed just how busy it is getting, with people queuing for parking spaces and or abandoning cars on the verges outside. Great it's getting used, but the infrastructure is definitely struggling.
When I take the car up I am there early and away before the hordes, but recognise that I am still additive to the problem !
It does appear that our planned family few days away to St Andrews to an Air BnB between Christmas and New Yr for son's 18th is scuppered though 🙁
The popularity of Whitelee can only be down to people's complete lack of imagination, it's busy most weekends, but is a grim, dour place to walk. There can be some nice views on days like we've had recently, but most of the time it's just grey.
Glasgow has an incredible amount of brilliant green spaces in the city, and lots of access to other quiet and nicer areas than a blowy plateau covered in metal structures!
^^^ quite agree, though for accessible safe gravel riding it is pretty good exercise wise. I think the big attraction is for families with dogs, and runners, as it is easy to drive up, get out of car, have a wander/run/ride in blowy fresh air with easy mud free surfaces.
On the bike, once you get a few miles away from the visitor centre, there is a myriad of paths - I am still finding new to me link up bits- was down at Hareshawmuir road the other day, and over at Craigendunton reservoir the previous week
What do we reckon to going for a ride somewhere you're working? I've got a site to visit north of Perth and am tempted to tack on a ride at Dunkeld. I've not been riding anywhere outside the City of Edinburgh limits for weeks now and the temptation is very strong.
Aye, that's why I said walk, it's perfect for battering the miles out on the bike away from traffic, ran the ultra there last year with the mrs, 33 miles and we never did the same section twice, it's bloody huge!.
What do we reckon to going for a ride somewhere you’re working?
I run at work during lunch, live in tier 4, work is tier 3 (though rates where I live are quite a bit lower now!), same thing really isn't it? I don't tend to do anything else though, like visit shops etc that are closed in my area.
What do we reckon to going for a ride somewhere you’re working? I’ve got a site to visit north of Perth and am tempted to tack on a ride at Dunkeld. I’ve not been riding anywhere outside the City of Edinburgh limits for weeks now and the temptation is very strong.
If you're going to be there anyway, what's the (additional) harm? I'd say crack on and enjoy it.
Agree. Have a nice ride.
What do we reckon to going for a ride somewhere you’re working? I’ve got a site to visit north of Perth and am tempted to tack on a ride at Dunkeld. I’ve not been riding anywhere outside the City of Edinburgh limits for weeks now and the temptation is very strong.
It's incredibly frustrating that the travel ban remains in place for sport even in tier 3, yet shops, restaurants, cafes etc can be rammed full of people in close proximity, but me riding my bike alone in a forest is forbidden 🙁
What do we reckon to going for a ride somewhere you’re working?
I would say its maybe a wee bend of the rules but you are there so not an extra journey so I see no harm despite being a bit of a fundamentalist over this stuff
but me riding my bike alone in a forest is forbidden
Here is mrs_oab breaking the rules by being 3 miles outside our Tier 4 boundary.
As you can see, we felt reasonably comfortable in our choice and thought the risk of covid vs benefit decision was in our favour.
Pretty sure that's not breaking the rules.
ere is mrs_oab breaking the rules
PITCH FORKS OUT!!!!!!!
That weekend just gone was depressing. Photo's of glorious skiing conditions and an empty mountain at Cairngorm yet being stuck in City of Edinburgh boundary. Had to pop to Timpsons to pick up a pair of repaired shoes from the Gyle shopping centre & the place was rammed. Similarly to our local pub which is now open for food/nae booze. Place looked fully booked going by facebook.
Getting thoroughly scunnered by being grounded - it not being OK to get into the wilderness yet seemingly perfectly fine to go to busy shopping centres and busy pubs for lunch.
Bah!
Maybe the young royals have eyesight issues and are expanding Barnard Castle to include Edinburgh castle and Cardiff Castle.
Pretty sure that’s not breaking the rules.
Nope, perfectly legit.
Doh, Stirling (rate now below 100) and all other T4 areas only dropping to T3. Still no travel.
There was no way that any of the level 4 areas were going to go down more than one level, particularly with the Christmas relaxation coming up.
Edinburgh looks to have been assessed quite harshly.
Edinburgh looks to have been assessed quite harshly.
Quite frankly I'm amazed TJ hasn't been on here yet!
