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I really enjoyed the book (although I didn't read any of the sequels, I heard they weren't very good), looking forward to this
they seem to be lifting a lot from the book…
So did George Lucas 😉
Looks interesting.
I have an unfashionable affection for the Lynch version, but that looks awesome
Looks good, but it's a shame they have used Pink Floyd for the soundtrack when the almighty Iron Maiden actually wrote a (dreadful) song based on the book 😉
No Sting though, very disappointing.
I'd say all the original series books through to chapter house are strong, not quite so keen on the (co-written) sequels/prequels
What do you mean 'to tame a land' is dreadful??? 😛
Looks promising.
I like the description of Lynch's Dune as like watching a trailer for the best film ever made. ie it's an incoherent, plot-less snapshot of a bigger story but God does it look good. But I'd be pretty impressed if this one manages to be better and can get out from under that prior art influence.
Lynch's work had some terrible problems with plot, ham acting by some of the cast, infamously troubled production etc but it slays in capturing the feel and look of the story.
No Sting though, very disappointing.
no Max von Sydow either 🙁
I added the trailer to the "stop remaking films" thread, for discussion... I loving the feel of the trailer.
@IHN, though I was much younger, the later books were more about the politics and little action or extremely slow action. So they may not be rubbish but the simply were not anywhere as good as Dune (to me).
I have an unfashionable affection for the Lynch version
Me too. This looks a bit Chronicles of Riddick to me.
Looks good, but it’s a shame they have used Pink Floyd for the soundtrack when the almighty Iron Maiden actually wrote a (dreadful) song based on the book
Could be worse, Grimes has written an obsessive amount of Dune-inspired stuff, they could have gone for that.
Lynch’s work had some terrible problems with plot
I think this is a bit harsh, of all of Lynch's films; Dune is about the most coherent. I followed it just fine, perhaps it was just you?
I have an unfashionable affection for the Lynch version
Me too. This looks a bit Chronicles of Riddick to me.
Yup,no Sting though,result 🙂
How very dare you fasthaggis, without Sting Dune would have been, well probably better but not the same.
Looks exactly like the kind of Film I love and my Wife hates.
How very dare you fasthaggis, without Sting Dune would have been, well probably better but not the same.
😉
Looks alright, i'll reserve judgement for when I will most likely see it, been caught out by Tenet and its promising trailer, but at least this has a massive worm. Just not sure about all the Zendaya (if that's her name) slo-mo stuff
The Lynch Dune film is the only one that I have ever fallen asleep in a cinema whilst ‘watching’, because it was soooo dull. Watched it a couple of decades later on the tv....yup, still dreadful. All in IMHO of course
Visually this looks brilliant. I've not read Dune (and not seen the film either as I prefer to read a book first if possible), just never seem to have gotten around to it. I think I'll go sort that out 🙂
Lynch’s work had some terrible problems with plot
I think this is a bit harsh, of all of Lynch’s films; Dune is about the most coherent. I followed it just fine, perhaps it was just you?
I read the book about five years ago - it’s not overly complicated. I’ve tried watching the film at least three times since it was released, most recently last year, and I’ve no idea what’s going on after an hour or so. So it’s at least two of us!
Me too. This looks a bit Chronicles of Riddick to me.
IMO it looks like how I visualised the book. Which is a good start.
I'm a bit disappointed that it's a film. It would have been an amazing series.
Theres talk of a series based around the machinations of the Bene Gesserit.
No Sting-in-his-space-pants = BOOOOOOO.
They'd better have kept all the homoerotic knife-fights.
This is how I visualised the book - but I may have got the sequence of reading/playing in the wrong order 😀
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Also - goodness that song on the trailer is bad.
Cover of Pink Floyd Eclipse? Oh and I didn't mind it.
I liked the original film and loved the computer game, but I have never read the book though.
I think this is a bit harsh, of all of Lynch’s films; Dune is about the most coherent. I followed it just fine, perhaps it was just you?
Unfortunately, whilst lynch's plot was very (overly) simple,it was about the opposite of what Frank Herbert was getting at in the book. (IMO)
I remember hiring a VHS of Dune to show my mates, because the book was so good. And then having to apologise afterwards because the film was so utterly shit.
The trailer looked dull and the lead actor slightly more insipid, if that’s possible than Ryan Gosling did as K in Bladerunner 2049. Sadly Villanueve has got form for this as the snoozefests of Arrival and Bladerunner 2049 will testify.
Cover of Pink Floyd Eclipse? Oh and I didn’t mind it.
Oops - didn't know it was Pink Floyd! I always think movie scores should be orchestral though.
as with the first movie where you felt it needed to be considerably longer, given the books are more intrigue than anything, I can only hope this is 4-5 hours long.
I’m a bit disappointed that it’s a film. It would have been an amazing series.
I think someone did try a series? It wasn't very good either.
As someone said, I think this would have been better as a miniseries, the first three books, Dune to children of Dune would be good for this. There is too much in the Dune book to digest in a 2h to 3h film, which probably means they will bring only some of the core elements (spice, worms and desert) and forget much of the rest.
Would have prefered Paul and Chani to be more on the mature side-even though at the start of Dune, Paul is a teenager.
On the other hand, very happy that non-star wars sci-fi is getting some attention.
I always think movie scores should be orchestral though.
Orchestral Music for Dune? Nah that'll be crap.
There is too much in the Dune book to digest in a 2h to 3h film
Which is why its being split into two movies.
Villanueve has got form for this as the snoozefests of Arrival and Bladerunner 2049 will testify
I thought Arrival was excellent, haven't seen Bladerunner (either of them)
Which is why its being split into two movies.
Did not know that, thanks for clarifying!
I thought Arrival was excellent,
Seconded. Great movie, though let down by a slightly weak ending.
Oops – didn’t know it was Pink Floyd!
Didn't you read my post? FFS, I don't know why I bother sometimes.
I’m a bit disappointed that it’s a film. It would have been an amazing series.
**** no. Dune is just about readable, by God Emperor, it's shockingly bad, the least said about Chapterhouse* the better. 5 out the 6 original books that Frank wrote were by any measure; piss poor, and written solely for the paycheck. The eleventy eight other cash-ins written by Kevin and (that other bloke who's name escapes me) read like they had to be drunk to get get any work done on them. Plus they all have ...Of Dune in the title, soon there'll be Restrooms Of Dune, Pizza Restuarants Of Dune, Street cleaners Of Dune...
*Chapterhouse, it sounds like a movie that stars John Belushi, and includes American college students being assholes...If anyone's not read it yet, apologies for the plot spoiler.
The books up to GEoD were okay, but the other are hard going, if necessary for the story - a bit like the Star Wars prequels.
The prequel novels with KJA and BH are actually okay if you want to immerse yourself in the Dune universe and understand how things like Mentats, navigators and the spice came to be. Individually, they're no standout like Dune, but together, they're greater than the sum of their parts. A bit like the Foundation series.
The Sci-fi Mini series was much better than the 1984 film and I'm hoping this will be better than the Mini Series. The Sci-Fi mini series is available on Prime right now
Didn’t you read my post? FFS, I don’t know why I bother sometimes.
I genuinely did, but that song was so awful I thought you must have meant some other bit of music in the trailer...
(you can tell I'm not familiar with Pink Floyd's back catalogue 😀 )
Sadly Villanueve has got form for this as the snoozefests of Arrival and Bladerunner 2049 will testify.
Go and shit in your hat.
**** no. Dune is just about readable, by God Emperor, it’s shockingly bad, the least said about Chapterhouse* the better.
That’s interesting. I think the biggest downside of the dune books is the very awkward pacing.
Oops – didn’t know it was Pink Floyd! I always think movie scores should be orchestral though.
It’s not, it’s by Hans Zimmer, who does lots of big orchestral movie scores, this is a version of Floyd’s ‘Eclipse’, which is appropriate, considering the subject of the film.
you can tell I’m not familiar with Pink Floyd’s back catalogue
Not even Dark Side Of The Moon, one of the biggest selling albums of all time, obviously.
Not even Dark Side Of The Moon, one of the biggest selling albums of all time, obviously.
I doubt that my wife (aged 39) or any of my kids would recognise that as Pink Floyd. The only PF song she can name is Another Brick - I’ve just asked. Not everyone is into a band who last made a decent album over thirty years ago. I’m just off to familiarise myself with Whitney’s Bodyguard album, the next best selling album of all time. Presumably you’ve got some Shania or Garth Brooks on the turntable? 😁
A bit like the Foundation series
I watched the Dune trailer (needs more Sting) then one of the suggested trailers was for Foundation on Apple TV next year. I didn't know that was happening. Looks spectacular too.
actual trailer starts at 45 seconds after Apples obligatory 'aren't we great' montage.
Haven't read either series in a few years, think I'll dig then out this weekend and let my eldest read them afterwards.
Here it is for you:
Sadly Villanueve has got form for this as the snoozefests of Arrival and Bladerunner 2049 will testify.
Go and shit in your hat.
Thanks for your cogent reply arrpee
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Dark Side Of The Moon, one of the biggest selling albums of all time
Speaking of snoozefests...
Never read the book, seen the film several times but decades ago and can't remember a single thing about it beyond lots of sand so it must have made an impression. Did one of the factions have glowing eyes?
But this does look very good. It's always hard to really tell, it wouldn't be the first time we've been lied to by trailers, but it looks like it'll be a spectacle even if turns out to be a hot mess of an actual film.
I'm really excited about this but also trying not to get my hopes up too much... Casting seems great too, apart from maybe Jason Momoa as Duncan Idaho - I always thought of that character as being more Bourne-like than (and I may be surprised here) the wilder roles Momoa tends to portray.
Theres talk of a series based around the machinations of the Bene Gesserit.
That sounds like an awful lot of worthy talking in whispered tones until everyone passes out through boredom.
I loved Dune, but it's all in the execution with these things.
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I’m really excited about this but also trying not to get my hopes up too much… Casting seems great too, apart from maybe Jason Momoa as Duncan Idaho – I always thought of that character as being more Bourne-like than (and I may be surprised here) the wilder roles Momoa tends to portray.
Idaho was a Swordsmaster, born and later hunted by the Harkonens on Giedi Prime, he escaped to Caladan. He's a tough, brutal commoner who later trains to become proficient in weapons, combat and tactics, but is at heart a brawler with significant skills. Jason Momoa seemz ideal for this role, like he's been building up to it (Ronan>Conan>Aquaman) his entire life.
Does he only play characters named -an?
More about the Floyd song in the trailer - did you know that Pink Floyd was set to provide music for Alejandro Jodorowsky’s Dune back in the ’70s before the project fell through. I didn’t.
https://nerdist.com/article/hans-zimmer-pink-floyd-eclipse-cover-dune/
Arrival and Bladerunner 2049
My two favourite SciFi films of recent years... so I'm in!
My two favourite SciFi films of recent years… so I’m in!
Me too,. Do t forget Moon too.
So much more to them than the usual Hollywood tripe of despotic aliens, laser guns and explosions. (Yawn).
But I like Silent Running, so what do I know?
Lynch’s work had some terrible problems with plot
Thats because its only parts of the book. Misses out big chunks of story.
Yes, and Moon!
I tried reading Dune 22 years ago. I lost interest shortly after the Atreides arrived on Dune, the pace was slow and the fact that as much time was spent on what each character was thinking as what was happening grated.
I have finally read it all, finishing this week. I probably wouldn't have stuck with it if it wasn't an officially recognised Classic Sci-Fi Novel. The ideas and probably the story were fine, but the writing, particularly the aforementioned long periods of internal monologue, were off-putting. Some of the impact of the book's ideas is also lessened because I've been aware of them via what they have inspired for so long before seeing them in their original form.
For me I'll give the movie a shot if it gets good reviews, but Dune is not such an important thing for me that the success of failure of the movie is anything I'm particularly invested in.
I haven't seen the David Lynch movie, either.
Dune is set in Arrakis, a giant and unforgiving desert planet with massive sandworms, at the same time its also where the most precious resource in the Galaxy is collected, Melange, or "the Spice". Melange effectively gives the user massive cheats, also a substance essential for intergalaxy travelling. The novel starts with Duke Leto Atreides, of the House Atreides and father to the protagonist, being given the Governorship(of some sorts) of this planet. The blue eyes are one of the physiological changes associated with Melange and its routine consumption. Hence the Fremen, the inhabitants of Arrakis, all have these blue on blue eyes. As expected, much of Fremen culture is shaped by the fact that there is little water available.
I will stop here since any more will reveal parts of the plot, that you may or may not remember.
Yeah, most of that rings vague bells. Thank you.
'<insert name here> no longer needs the Weirding Module'
Still a regular ribbing in my little part of the world.
Although 'Fear is the mind-killer' seams to apply more and more now-days.
I'm a huge fan of Dune, currently re-reading the series for the umpteenth time. I also love Lynch's version of the story. In fairness to it and him, my understanding of the problems with the movie arose from it being around 4-5hrs long when it was completed. The cinemas threw their hands up in horror at something they could only show once a day, and the editors went in with the scissors and cut the original story to ribbons.
I also have an Alan Smithee version of Lynch's Dune Movie, which attempts to plug the story line holes with voiced over animations and movie storyboards. It's a bit weird! All in though, I'm looking forward to this new movie and will probably love it, even if it's poo, simply because it's a movie of my favourite Sci-Fi novel.
Speaking of which, I know it's very obvious, but if you remove Spice and replace it with Oil, and transport the Freman to another sandy, desert wasteland to the east of here, (no, not Fife, much further east than that), written at a time when the Suez canal crisis was still fresh in people's memories, it makes it a much more interesting read....or at least, that's my take on it.
C.
When I read it the second time as a adult, the spice=oil thing was obvious. 'Travel without moving'
Butlerian Jihad - the outlawing of thinking machines. Is that I our future?