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Has anyone done this through their county highways dept? If so, did you need planning permission and what was the ball park cost?


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 11:05 am
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We will be getting this done hopefully when our house sale goes through.

Planning permission normally required if you're on a classified road (one with a number).

£400 is the estimate for work required in this district.


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 11:07 am
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Depends entirely on the council but they *normally* charge around £200/£300 and the work has to be completed by their approved contractors.


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 11:07 am
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Cheers, not as bad I thought. Notts here, so see what they come up with. Rather fed-up with limited access due to neighbours parking on the road (they have six cars/ vans between them) and considering caravan so would be better to get it on/ off when there.


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 11:10 am
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As above - it's closed shop when it comes to the contractors so you can't shop around. Our first one was a properly shonky job and grass started popping up through the tarmac after a month or so, but after writing to the council they came back and re-did a much better job of it.

We didn't need planning but if you're doing it in conjunction with any paving/driveway work to the front of the house (>5 square metres) then you may need planning for that.


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 11:11 am
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does having it done then entitle you to park on the kerb and block 90% of it?

seems to down my way...


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 11:13 am
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We're in Notts too

Unlike other places it is done directly by the county or district (although they sometimes appoint contractors to do the work on their behalf), rather than being given a list of approved contractors.

Edit: not sure about if you're in the city


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 11:18 am
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Thanks ebygomm, I'll see what the results of the inspector's visit is.


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 11:24 am
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In Staffordshire they often object. Apparently, if you allow a 2nd access it allows you to build a petrol station in your back garden, or so they seem to think.

But if you get it done yourself, by a passing groundwork contractor, and you later get busted, the only thing they can demand is that you put it back as before.

That's what I'd do.


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 11:31 am
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As above, IIRC if the road has a no you have to use an approved contractor who has the relevant Liability Ins, £5m I think but depends on the road. Unclassified I think you just need a permit. This used to be a good earner for my old man, when he worked on the council.


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 11:35 am
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In Nottinghamshire it can only be done by the county, there is no system of permits and approved contractors. Planning permission is required additionally if you're on a classified road

http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/drivewayacrossfootway.htm

Highway stuff is currently contracted out to Ashfield, Broxtowe and Mansfield so if you live in one of these districts you need to get in touch with the district rather than the county council


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 11:40 am
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I tried to do this to my mrs to ease access but she woulodn't let me in anyway.


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 11:42 am
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But if you get it done yourself, by a passing groundwork contractor, and you later get busted, the only thing they can demand is that you put it back as before

No, shirely they'd get their approved contractor to put it right, and charge you whatever it cost them... I'd put in for permission.


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 12:39 pm
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Nore, dropped kepb on its own doe not prevent parking on front of the house. The kerb is there to allow access, but if there is nothing to access i.e. no hard standing in front of a terraced house or a driveway etc , then you can still park there.
I had issues with a former neighbour who dropped his kerb, but hadn't removed the wall in front of his house or completed the hard standing, so anyone was able to park there UNTIL his wall was removed and the hard standing completed.


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 12:54 pm
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Nottingham City Council has the power to fine people parking in front of a dropped kerb

[url= http://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=12932 ]Don't park across dropped crossings ...That's the message to motorists if they want to avoid a costly parking fine.[/url]


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 4:31 pm
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That's crossings, which you shouldn't do anyway, not the same as a dropped kerb.


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 5:02 pm
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"A dropped crossing is where the pavement, cycle track or verge has been lowered, or the road raised, to help vehicles accessing businesses or [b]people's driveways[/b] and pedestrians and cyclists crossing roads."


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 5:11 pm
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Nottingham city council have the powers to fine and ultimately lift your vehicle if you block either a private dropped access (if there by approval, checking your own in doesn't count so do seek permission) or public drops such as crossings. They can also fine you for interference with the highway so if you get a naughty one done, it's not just the cost reinstatement, it could be two and a half k on top!

Also, it needs to-be done through proper channels as there may be a traffic regulation order such as double yellow lines or residents parking which could be affected. If so, the changes to these would be at the applicants expense. If you are notes city rather than county, let me know and I'll talk you through it.


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 5:29 pm
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Ta, I'm County. In Broxtowe. Was told Notts deal with it all now for them. I was advised to contact Broxtowe in case any sort of planning requirements exist.


 
Posted : 02/06/2011 6:34 pm