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@Heather Bash/Solo
If you'd let your kid wander round Waterlooville at 9pm at night then you've got more problems than me going a little bit fast.
Sorry, went away and haven't read the rest of the posts.
Those that don't are lying and those with clean licenses are good at not getting caught.
this
41 in a 30, at any time of day is daft
it usually is in a built up area but still not necessarily - 3 am stariht road no cars or pedestrians we have dual carriageways where I live that are 30 for example and yet single lane tracks that are 60 - it is not always clear why the speed limit is higher for single track roads as it would be daft to do 60 on those
nickf - agreed, to an extent. They will also lie to you though.
That's possible, I'm sure. The one I did didn't contain any lies that I spotted, and was extremely BS-free. The guy encouraged debate, pointed out real issues from places where there had been real accidents, covered things like seasonal differences (leaves, damp coners, bud), road positioning, and also pointed out that using 112 rather than 999 will ensure the emergency services will be able to locate you using GPS. Had to take his word for this, but worth knowing.
The physics behind speed and pedestrian deaths are interesting as well, and made me think a lot more.
Willingly broke the law, got caught, been offered a way to avoid punishment, SIUP
[i]Had you not been caught, what would it have been next time.
50mph in a 30 mph zone ?.[/i]
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This speeding thing is like a drug, man!
Ah, Waterlooville. They should have let you off for being brave enough to drive around there at night.
He did. And he made the decision that 41 was appropriate for the situation. Speed is not the be all and end all of safe driving you know.
No, it's not, but if there are laws to follow, with a punishment if you break them, I don't think you can get to uppity about getting caught breaking them and being punished.
Whether the rules are sensible is an other matter entirely....
He did. And he made the decision that 41 was appropitate for the situation. Speed is not the be all and end all of safe driving you know.
Says the man who's ambition is apparently to do 60 through a 20mph school zone 😀
Unlucky, but certainly don't come up with excuses, regardless of what is going on in your life at that time, your driving a car and should be doing it to the best of your ability.
Take the course, you obviously need to go on it because you think its pointless.
If you dont go on it, what happens next time you get a speeding ticket for driving too fast and not paying attention. Then your insurance will go up just a tad.
[i] he made the decision that 41 was appropitate for the situation.[/i]
Nah, no decision was made. I was just driving. No slow idiots doing 30 in front of me for a change..
Not sure I've ever managed 120mph on a NSL single carriageway
Mine was probably a dual carriageway the first time, but it's fairly easy on a motorbike.
Says the man who's ambition is to do 60 through a 20mph school zone
You know I'd forgotten about the 20s. I'll tick that one off on my way home, I'll be going through one on my way home. Thanks for the heads up! 🙂
"I was just driving. No slow idiots doing 30 in front of me for a change.."
There was the problem though, you either were not paying attention and didnt realise you were in a 30, or knew you were in a 30 and didn't keep an eye out for Police checking your speed.
If your going to speed accept the consequences
[i]This speeding thing is like a drug, man!
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I'm amazed you think its funny.
Also, that by trying to laugh it off, that you reveal just what kind of a monster turd you are.
EDIT: Or is that Troll ?...
You are yet another example of the individual in modern society, who thinks the rules shouldn't apply to them.
You even know that place is an accident black spot, and you still speed.
Cos you're you, and you have an excuse.
Staggering.
Please report to the nearest appropriate facility and have yourself re-classified as sub-human.
And do us all a favour.
Nah, no decision was made. I was just driving. No slow idiots doing 30 in front of me for a change..
Anarchy rules OK! They don't like it up em do they?
this.but if there are laws to follow, with a punishment if you break them, I don't think you can get to uppity about getting caught breaking them and being punished
Expecting my first car related fine soon, bank holiday, empty road, bus lane (weekday rush hour, not 24h), assumed bus lanes weren't in operation but have since checked and they probably are, my mistake, will pay up no arguments if I do get a fine.
No idea what sort of road it is but 41 in a 30 is quite a bit over isn't it?
>If you'd let your kid wander round Waterlooville at 9pm at night then you've got more problems than me going a little bit fast.<
You'll have a different perspective on it when or IF you grow up son.
I went for the speed awareness course
option 1) SA course £72 (Cumbria), 0 points, clean licence, cup of tea and biscuits
option 2) £60 fine, 3points, no effect on ins. premiums (I've no proof it would tho)
41 in a 30 zone - a "blackspot" apparently (yeah, at 9 o'clock at night, righto).
"I only speed when I beleive it's safe to do so"
Just as self-righteous as the "I only RLJ when it's safer or there's no traffic"
Optional laws! Brilliant!
I must study my copy of the highway code more closely and see which bits of it I can ignore because they don't suit me.
[i]Not sure I've ever managed 120mph on a NSL single carriageway [/i]
Loads of places, done triple (on the clock) on the A41 between Bicester and Aylesbury 🙂
Well not all 30 limit roads are the same.
They're not? I'm sure the law see's it differently. The speed restriction applies regardless of time of day etc whether you think it should or not is irrelevant.
No slow idiots doing 30 in front of me for a change
You mean the people competent enough to drive to the speed limit. Idiots, obviously.
[i]There was the problem though, you either were not paying attention and didnt realise you were in a 30, or knew you were in a 30 and didn't keep an eye out for Police checking your speed.[/i]
Amazing deduction, Holmes.
[i]what kind of a monster turd you are[/i]
Amazing deduction, Holmes.
My Golf struggles to do 2x the speed limit (140) with bikes on the roof - ran out of puff at about 135. I was quite amazed they stayed on as it was only a cheap Thule rack...
Loads of places, done triple (on the clock) on the A41 between Bicester and Aylesbury
::Bookmarks thread for future reference::
I did my awareness course too I learnt some stuff and there were some really bitter people there!
my question is - has it actually slowed you down at all?
I dont think it has for me
I regularly exceed the speed limit where I think I'm alright. If I'm caught it WILL be tough titty.
Sorry. Its a blackspot for a reason. Accidents happen there.
I suppose this thread is probably best explained by the fact that school probably starts again on Monday
[i][s]Sorry.[/s] Its a blackspot for a reason. Accidents happen there.
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TFTFY
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The Southern Yeti - Member
Apparently they're the easiest ones to dispute. As they're really inacurate. Only takes a slight movement of the coppers wrist to completely change the result.
Urban Myth that will likely result in a bigger fine.
Most handheld devices are now lasers. They take about 1000 readings per second; the laser is travelling at around 300,000,000 metres per second, & the point of aim is relatively small so they can be extremely accurate. The only regular calibration needed is on the sights, not the laser (which is usually about every 2 years); the sights are usually done at the start of your tour of duty.
I'm no longer trained in them but in my experience I know of no successful challenge in court.
Think of it like this:
40mph = about 60 feet per second (I think, from dim & distant memory)
Average driver [b]reaction[/b] time = 2.5 seconds
Therefore 2.5x60 = 150 feet [b]BEFORE[/b] you've started braking. Basically for 150 feet you're a passenger in your own car unable to do anything about anything.
Obviously, reaction times can vary wildly but it's not a bad consideration when you decide to stick yer toe in.
More than 20% above the speed limit and the police should be entitled to break one of your wrists. More than 40% and it should be an elbow.
Thanks folks, I knew discussing this would cheer me up. 😀
My bro is getting on fine btw. Thanks for asking.
I regularly exceed the speed limit where I think I'm alright.
Why do you think a speed limit doesn't apply to you?
PEterPoddy I agree that speed isnt' the be all and end all of safe driving however speeding in a built up area is just stupid and NOT BEING AWARE of your speed is stupid.
Fair enough if you know you are doing 100mph in a 70mph and you are an experienced driver (not that I'm condoning doing that speed) but DezB not knowing he was speeding also implies to me a careless driver.
I'm not on my high horse as I have 3 points but I called myself a **** was pi** off at myself, paid the fine and got on with life rather than trying to get sympathy on a forum.
Average driver reaction time = 2.5 seconds
Really? I'm astonished it's anywhere near this long. If you're accurate that's pretty worrying.
[i]My bro is getting on fine btw. Thanks for asking.[/i]
Crikey, is there not limit to the depths you'll sink.
Both my brothers are dead.
Should anyone feel sorry for me.
Perhaps I'll go do 100mph on the high street.
LOL @ Solo! DezB this wasnt' a thread about your brother, cat, MIL it was abotu you being miffed you got 3 points! Get a grip and MTFU.
Why do you think a speed limit doesn't apply to you?
I'm like the majority of the population. Just stand down the road from the main Police station with a radar gun and you'll catch alot of Police rushing to get to the start of their shift.
I'm in the wrong. The speed limit is there for a reason. However my rush rush rush lifestyle means I feel I'm always in need to get somewhere quickly.
If and when I am caught. Its a matter of time. The fine and points will be deserved. I wont try and explain my driving or look for a loophole either. My Dad died last year, if I'd have been caught then I wouldn't have blamed it on that even though I exceeded the limit. We are human. We can always try to explain away our actions.
If the OP was caught 41 as an actual that'd mean his speedo was reading circa 45/46 in a urban environment whilst he also admitted his mind wasn't there/distracted.
Average driver reaction time = 2.5 seconds
Go on then, show us the evidence for that, then explain the reasons, then compare that to someone who is paying attention.
Then, of course, who says braking/stopping is the only way to avoid a collision? You have a steering wheel too, FYI....
This is exactly the sort if blindly quoted dodgy 'statistic' that pees me off.
[i]LOL @ Solo[/i]
No, seriously. Both my Brothers have passed away, so I'm not sure what so funny about that.
[i]you got 3 points! Get a grip and MTFU[/i]
Yeap !.
Average driver reaction time = 2.5 seconds
You're joking?!?
What the hell is the 'average driver' doing between identifying a potential hazard and applying the brake? Making a cup of tea?
EDIT: I guess this is why 99% of the population is an 'above average' driver
Gutted for you. All do it though despite saying we don't
The one I did didn't contain any lies... pointed out that using 112 rather than 999 will ensure the emergency services will be able to locate you using GPS.
Maybe not a lie, but this is not entirely accurate information. There is a mechanism within 112 to deliver location data, but it may not be much more accurate than which cell site your mobile was connected to. I have no idea whether or not this same mechanism can be used dialling 999 (from the mobile network perspective I'm sure they could provide it).
112 is, however, the universal emergency contact number for GSM mobile networks, so should work from a GSM mobile phone wherever you are in the world. For many handsets you can dial 112 through a PIN-locked screen for precisely this reason.

