It isn't just the far right party leaders, it is the government heads.
Good luck with trying to breath with your head stuffed into a hole in the ground
Bit harsh. There is nothing any of us can do about it so trying to ignore it and carry on with life is almost certainly the best approach. Or do you think talking shite on an internet forum is 'doing something'?
Ian Dunt on the money as usual -
trying to ignore it and carry on with life is almost certainly the best approach
But if we ignore rather than trying to make sure we take a stand, we've rolled over and given up, and we will be next. Doing something doesn't mean posting on a forum, but if all of us on here who are concerned about what's going on play some small role in our local communities and politics, and lobby the people who matter (some MPs, not all) we might have a chance
As distasteful as it is see how long the UK economy lasts if you try and isolate Trump’s US.
There is more going on here than the economy, how long do you think even our currently slipping life standards will last if we keep cosying up and conceding to the right and fascists?
It isn't just about trump, the podium at his inauguration had the worlds richest men lining up behind him, do you think they will just crawl back under their rocks once Trump is gone?
But if we ignore rather than trying to make sure we take a stand, we’ve rolled over and given up, and we will be next.
How should we take a stand? I know what I'd do, I'd vote for politicians and parties who promise to aggressively censor fascists, regulate (or even ban) social media to prevent it being used by bad actors, and impose punitive wealth taxes and other measures on the super rich. I doubt that will happen though, most people on here and in the outside world can't even bring themselves to support mildly left of centre politicians and parties let alone something more radical so I guess the only other thing to do is avoid the news and carry on with life in blissful ignorance.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8k2jknn8zo
Apparently, according to the Beeb, we are telling Trump not to impose tariffs on the UK. The Beeb lapsing into Harry Enfield / Mr Cholmondley-Warner mode, it would seem.
If only there was a passively protectionist union of developed European states we could belong to. One where we could still have all the benefits, but retain our own currency and monetary policy. If only such an opportunity existed.
But hey, blue passports.
The CDU (the German equivalent of the traditional Tories about politically where labour currently are) and strong favourites to be forming the next German government, have this morning indicated they are willing work with the AFD after the election.
The EU won't save itself never mind the UK, as centrist politicians are still attacking the left rather than dealing with the danger presented by fascism promoted by oligarchs.
Well a unified front against an arsehole like Trump would be handy. Whatever its internal politics.
In other observations about the week of shite we're about to end...
I thought it was Trumpian politics not to extend help or welcome to unemployed, alcoholic, skiving drunks. So why did Johnson get an invite to the inauguration?
So why did Johnson get an invite to the inauguration?
There was a meeting of Misogynist Adulterers Anonymous as well. Like MAGA, but less great.
Apparently Trump has given a rambling car crash interview to Fox, where even the tame interviewer couldn't help but call out some of the bollocks.
Johnson also got one of the better seats and wasn't left outside like Farage 🙂
According to the excellent John Crace, Mad Lizzie didn't even get invited to the B-List 'gathering in the foyer' or whatever it is.
Despite flying over and dressing like a cross between Paddington Bear and a fast food chip packet packer. I must admit, that gave me a moment's amusement.
Do you really think this is going to eb contained to the US? What is happening is clear and they are exporting it to europe, our leaders are still ass kissing Trump, we need to be isolating the US not following their trajectory.
I absolutely do not think that. My point around Cletus and Billybob being cretins doesn't imply anything about what Trump is doing to export his sewage politics via Musk, economic clout etc.
I think you misunderstood me.
I have a lot of scepticism that Europe and the UK in particular have leaders with the minerals to resist it, though. The old chaps didn't do a very ****ing good job Brexit after all - just assuming the benefits of the status quo were obvious - especially to a certain demographic.
I've fallen down a wonderful YouTube rabbit hole today of various US YouTubers picking up various Trump/Musk disasters.
I loved this guy discovering Ian Hislop
It's unlikely to pass, but given the shit Trump has gotten away with so far it might.
And even if not this was introduced on day 3 of his presidency. It's just the start of the lunacy that's coming.
It’s unlikely to pass, but given the shit Trump has gotten away with so far it might.
This is just the beginning....
It’s unlikely to pass, but given the shit Trump has gotten away with so far it might.
It would require support from a very large number of Democrats in Congress, assuming that all Republicans voted for it. It's just someone being a dick to get attention from the MAGA wingnuts.
It would require support from a very large number of Democrats in Congress,
Not just congress but also all 2/3rds of the states which is rather unlikely. The more likely path is some imaginative interpretation of the 22nd amendment that the paid for right wingers in the supreme court manage to sign off.
Or the other way to amend the Constitution: Constitutional Convention.
2/3 of state legislatures ( i.e. 33 of them) ask for a convention to change the consitution and then it needs to be either voted on or ratified by 3/4 of state legislatures. Given the loading of key positions in state legislatures that the Republicans have been pushing for the past few years, I can see this being a distinct possibilty after the next set of mid-term elections.
here's the actual video, with out the annoying yankee doodle youtuber talking all over it...
Im of the bury your head in the sand tendency on this. There is nothing i can do so for the ggod of my mental health i am going to ignore all the detail. Headlines will do and i know whats going on. Why waste time and effort worrying about something I can do nothing about
TBH I’d expect some sort of national emergency, that makes more sense to delay the election closer to it.
Theres a few years to make sure the correct actors are in place for season three and a load of years in preproduction.
TBH I’d expect some sort of national emergency, that makes more sense to delay the election closer to it.
Very much this - provoke the more zealous centrists (wink emoji) into falling for the trap, claim a national emergency and job's jobbed, third term.
It’s unlikely to pass, but given the shit Trump has gotten away with so far it might.
Although it may lead to the return of Baarackk Husseeiin Obaaama........
Although it may lead to the return of Baarackk Husseeiin Obaaama……..
You don't think the racists now in charge would let a black man ever become president again, do you? In 4 years when they've finished remaking the US in Trump's image it will no longer be a problem for them, but until that time the proposal has been specifically worded to prevent Obama from running again:
‘‘No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than three times, nor be elected to any additional term after being elected to two consecutive terms, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.’’
But he can do nothing about either.
Right now the rise of Trump and everything he has done so far, and the effect that has on emboldening the far right globally feels like a faster burning platform than our relationship with the EU
Unless the direction is halted, there may not be an EU worth rejoining in the years to come.
TBH it’s fair to moan about stuff that directly affects you, and you can harasses your mp,set up a think tank to change policy in tufton st , vote in the next election for a group more focussed on Eunification etc 🙂
If was doing any of the things you have suggested he would be telling us all about it
Right now the rise of Trump and everything he has done so far, and the effect that has on emboldening the far right globally feels like a faster burning platform than our relationship with the EU
Unless the direction is halted, there may not be an EU worth rejoining in the years to come.
This, absolutely this, stemming the tide of the far right and the enabling oligarchs needs to be one of the governments main priorities. If our leaders keep burying their heads in the sand and paying lips service to the fascists, any effort to actually help the general population (whether we think that is currently sufficient or not) will be washed away by a flood of far right propaganda and oligarch financed political upheaval
It’s just someone being a dick to get attention from the MAGA wingnuts.
There's a whole crowd of them vying for the favour of the felon and his cronies. The Republican Senate and Congress are basically the Duma, just performative antics in support of Trump rather than Putin.
I see unqualified sex predator and drunk Hegseth got confirmed for Defence. There is really no depths this lot won't plumb.
It is also about creating "enemy of the people" scenarios, then using social media to amplify the hate against the sensible resistance of these idiotic proclamations.
What I don't get is that it's clearly trump 1st country.... nth and people are fine with it.
Bit like the UK where politics has become immediately reactionary and nothing is allowed time to change.
I fear before trump's term ends there will be violent protests.
I'm so disappointed in humanity at the moment it's depressing, deleted Facebook, don't use twitter etc. but even this place is getting is bad.
Back to trump, saw something yesterday where he was talking about aid, one state is getting it straight away "cause they voted for me" but california aid is being held "until some voter terms are agreed to".
BBC reporting that Trump has put an immediate block on all foreign aid to ensure that it meets his criteria of "worth it".
This was BBC report was interesting, I can just imagine the great and good at Davos listening to Trump in a very "WTAF?" way, but they need to be figuring out how we can collectively counter the threat he poses both economically and , just as important, politically. The article suggests there's been a fall out among the tech bros, but I can't see anything to confirm that elsewhere?
BBC News - Davos elite nod along as Trump delivers ultimatum
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq5g3y6dxzgo
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg49jz7v8no
- So we have had those who committed violence on his behalf pardoned.
- He is using rhetoric and proclamations to create enemies within government and the media
- He is now showing that law enforcement will not protect those he disagrees with.
He's removed Fauci's security detail? That puts him in huge danger!
Apparently not, I understand that Fauci will be paying for his own security. It will obviously make him worse off financially though!
Edit : What I find fascinating is how much stuff in the US is down to the personal whims of the sitting president. It is only in this latest handover that it has started to fully sink in with me just how much personal power one person can have in the US.
I find it frankly bizarre and clearly not very democratic.
^ JFC!! WTF is the matter with the man!?
"We're leaving the WHO because they handled COVID badly" so says man who suggested people inject disinfectant as a treatment for COVID.
Apparently not, I understand that Fauci will be paying for his own security. It will obviously make him worse off financially though!
That doesn't really matter, it is what these events signal for those who oppose him, and those who support him (with violence).
it has started to fully sink in with me just how much personal power one person can have in the US.
I find it frankly bizarre and clearly not very democratic.
The presidency was set up as an elected king with an independent legislature and judiciary to provide checks and balances. The UK has evolved massively since then, it used to be much less democratic, with a monarchy that held real power. On paper, the U.S. system is much more democratic, Westminster systems are currently better in my opinion only because there is respect for democratic conventions (which are quite recent innovations.)
