Ignore everything I've posted.
It's easier that way.
Adieu.
Posted : 17/04/2025 12:01 am
Ignore everything I've posted.
It's easier that way.
Adieu.
try to ignore the trolls... easier said than done sometimes!
Posted : 17/04/2025 12:08 am
Ignore everything I've posted.
But I find your personal opinion of Americans and how you claim they behave on public transport and restaurants revealing. It obviously has nothing to do with the subject matter of this thread - Donald Trump. But it does betray your own personal prejudices. Prejudices which clearly go beyond the last US presidential election.
It's just another example of middle-class liberal hypocrisy. They castigate others for their alleged bigotry whilst they indulge in their own "politically correct" bigotry.
I never condemn an entire people, I judge people, if at all, as individuals. If calling out middle-class hypocrisy makes you feel uncomfortable then I suggest that you resort to STW's nuclear option and call me a troll 💡
Posted : 17/04/2025 12:29 am
Ignore everything I've posted.
But I find your personal opinion of Americans and how you claim they behave on public transport and restaurants revealing. It obviously has nothing to do with the subject matter of this thread - Donald Trump. But it does betray your own personal prejudices. Prejudices which clearly go beyond the last US presidential election.
It's just another example of middle-class liberal hypocrisy. They castigate others for their alleged bigotry whilst they indulge in their own "politically correct" bigotry.
I never condemn an entire people, I judge people, if at all, as individuals. If calling out middle-class hypocrisy makes you feel uncomfortable then I suggest that you resort to STW's nuclear option and call me a troll 💡
Pot-kettle-black 😕
Why dont you get back in your hole, you nasty little brexiteer?
Posted : 17/04/2025 12:44 am
felltop reacted
In other news, the USA will pay for its hatred one way or another:
Misanthropy has consequences, who would have thunk it?
Posted : 17/04/2025 2:10 am
MoreCashThanDash reacted
STW's nuclear option and call me a troll
Lighten up Ernie, please.
Don't worry about it Oakwood, I had different experiences of Americans whilst travelling recently, especially the people who were on Eurostar, staunch democrats and ashamed to be American at present, which is perhaps why they kept their voices down, but I think we've all crossed the MAGA cap brigade at some point and they do tend to conform to a sterotype. I smiled at your posts even while disagreeing.
Ernie's doing his Ernie humourless false outrage thing. And I hope the mods have the good sense to let Mattyfez's post stand rather than ban him. 🙂
Posted : 17/04/2025 6:51 am
stumpyjon reacted
A bit more on polling in the US by Professor Paul Whiteley, Department of Government, University of Essex
Yes, you can find data that supports President Trump's term so far, but there are underlying trends against for the mid-terms
Put simply, the nonaligned voters in America have shifted against Trump over tariffs. This is significant because they are the largest political group in the US, at 37% of electors compared with 34% Democrats and 29% Republicans. Also significant is that, according to Morning Consult, the average voter is more likely to hold positive than negative views about Democrats in Congress, for the first time since the 2024 election, at 47% to 46%.
If this shift continues, and independent voters support Democrat candidates in the 2026 mid-term elections, it means that the Democrats are likely to take control of Congress. This will give them greater opportunity to block presidential initiatives to introduce new bills, which must be passed by both the House of Representatives and the Senate to became law
Posted : 17/04/2025 7:33 am
MoreCashThanDash reacted
Everyone I meet hates trump.
I've met *many* people who thought he would be good for the US, unsurprisingly that thinking *usually* comes with a shit load of other, unfortunate and unpleasant moral rather than political views. So most of them i now have no idea what they are thinking right now.
Except for one chap who still keeps emailing me every few weeks like we're still good buddies. He supported Kyle Rittenhouses actions, thought J6 was a rational activity and occasionally posted "Biden will have to pry all ma guns from my cold dead hands" type stuff. And yes, i did express my thoughts on the whole thing, he didn't seem to understand why i thought that people other than straight, white, able bodied middle class CIS men deserved any rights at all. Kind off ironic as he lives off his wifes (significant) wealth and his veterans disability pension. He'll probably be royally shafted by now though, now trump/musk/doge have gutted much of the VA.
The only other person i know and am still friends with, thinks trump is a complete ***** ** ** ** ** * * ********* * ***. But was of the opinion that Trumps 2nd term will be good for his home country (India). And as they seem to have relatively low tariffs, maybe he was slightly right?
Posted : 17/04/2025 7:47 am
Lighten up Ernie, please.
I am fine thanks! I am not suggesting that I am "outraged" by people's bigotry, I am simply calling it out. God only knows how much punters on stw like to call out the alleged bigotry of UK voters, and now on this thread US voters.
And yes Mattyfez's post is an interesting one, it seems to follow a very regular pattern of posts becoming more insulting as the evening wears on, something which I suspect is probably connected to alcohol. Throwing in the troll accusation is an easy option which requires no coherent argument and in the case of me in particular reminding everyone that I didn't support Remain, even though it has absolutely no relevance to what is being discussed, is always a good way of getting a few likes.
Anyway I look forward to more interesting discussions about Donald Trump with perhaps less emphasis on personal experiences of rude Americans.
Posted : 17/04/2025 7:57 am
pot, kettle, black.
Posted : 17/04/2025 8:47 am
And now you're acusing someone of being drunk, Ernie ! FWIW I haven't had a drink in years and nothing I have ever posted on STW has been related to drink. That's not drunken rambling from mattyfez, it's a succinct one liner.
Brexit and Trump tarifs = same mindset.
One of the stated aims of Brexit was to give british firms a competetive advantage (through deregulation of labour market, not being constrained by environmental standards, ability to set tarifs and make trade deals etc;? It's all in the Brexit threads. The idea was an unfair competetive advantage which predictably (because many of us predicted it) turned into the millstone now hanging around UK exporters' necks.
Trump is on exactly the same sort of simplistic nationalist protectionist trip and will run into the same difficulties as the UK. Countries won't sign treaties that are unfavourable to them and will resist. Barnier tied the UK in knots and if it weren't for a war in the Ukraine the EU would be doing the same to Trump. Trump and China is the same "they need us more than we need them" attitude as Johnson. Fact is China really doesn't need the US and holds huge amounts of US bonds which if I were Xi I'd be quietly selling at just the right rate to keep US interest rates at a level that is good for China and bad for the US economy.
The idea that there are no winners in a trade war is IMO false. Exports to the US are so insignificant to China in GDP terms, and China's money and goods so essential to the US that China can bring the US to stagnation or worse with impunity if it so wishes. Whilst all the time playing the victim card.
Trump is about to learn that he can't file America for bankruptcy and hand over half of it to renegotiate the debt as he did with his companies.
Edit: put bluntly Xi has more control over US interest rates than the Fed.
Posted : 17/04/2025 8:51 am
I never condemn an entire people
Not even Scousers?! 😳
Posted : 17/04/2025 9:00 am
It's just another example of middle-class liberal hypocrisy. They castigate others for their alleged bigotry whilst they indulge in their own "politically correct" bigotry.
It's not often I get to feel like Jerry in 'The Good Life' as he's being lectured by Tom.
🤣
Posted : 17/04/2025 9:06 am
binners and martinhutch reacted
Both Brexit and the rise of MAGA in the states are born from the same mindset - rich people and foreign enemies exploiting and misdirecting the festering resentment of large parts of the population, while at the same time relying on the complacency of others not to spot a 'lesser of two evils' situation.
There will always be those who can't accept and work with imperfection, and would rather amputate the arm because they don't like the colour of the nail polish. Here, we had educated and intelligent people who were rightly critical of the EU, but unable to grasp that life outside the EU would be poorer and smaller for the people they claimed to be fighting for.
Being a contrarian is a luxury paid for with other people's jobs and lives.
'The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity'
Posted : 17/04/2025 9:22 am
MoreCashThanDash reacted
nothing I have ever posted on STW has been related to drink
My post at the top of this page was. I'd had a brilliant evening ride yesterday on local trails in amazing conditions followed by a few nice pints - and I'm off work until next Tuesday.
So, I couldn't be bothered with the outrage, faux or otherwise. 🙂
Seeing as I'm off on hols and I'm trying to avoid the news in general, I have little to say about Trump right now. So this thread isn't relevant to me at the moment. Let's hope it stays that way and the Orange Slob doesn't start WW3 in the interim. 🤞
Posted : 17/04/2025 9:38 am
Both Brexit and the rise of MAGA in the states are born from the same mindset
Sorry mate my strong opposition to the EU** has bugger all to do with my views on the Donald Trump, nor my opposition to anti-american bigotry, but well done for keeping the theme going! 😅
Edit : ** Which is both increasing, as I see the EU sweet FA about Europe's very own Donald Trump, Viktor Orban, and decreasing as I see that EU membership puts so little restriction on the behaviour of countries.
Although I suspect plenty of restrictions on economic policies. As a commited right-winger Viktor Orban is unlikely to fall foul over EU economic policies, other than maybe undermining sanctions against Russia.
Posted : 17/04/2025 10:15 am
Does this new forum support killfiles? Askin' for a friend...
Posted : 17/04/2025 12:04 pm
BoardinBob and teethgrinder reacted
I never condemn an entire people,
I still haven't forgiven the Germans for Adolf Hitler.
What a shower of ****s
Hmm...
Interesting that when quoting I can see what the swear filter removed...
I'm sure you will come up with some verbose response claiming you were being facetious or ironic or something but you are either a hypocrite or a troll.
Posted : 17/04/2025 12:12 pm
There's plenty of reports about the dilemma Orban presents the EU and of - obviously - private conversations about him.
Can I remind folk that this thread is about Trump, not about ourselves.
Posted : 17/04/2025 12:16 pm
Hmm...
Yes I was obviously serious about not having yet forgiven the Germans for Adolf Hitler, so well done for pointing out my hypocrisy!
Anyway as MCTD points out it's maybe time to move on and get back to discussing Donald Trump. Hypocrisy on STW won't be going anywhere soon, so there will plenty of opportunities in the future to return to the subject 😉
Posted : 17/04/2025 12:38 pm
So, back to the orange hued shitgibbon.
How tall is he? How heavy?
6'3" and 224lbs, or 5'11" and closer to 280lbs?
Posted : 17/04/2025 1:02 pm
I guess thats merely in keeping with Trump being unable to tell the truth about anything. I also seen him again trying to brag about taking a cognitive test. The interviewer said he too had taken the same test and Trump tried to boast the last 5 questions were very difficult; the guy interviewing him disagreed - and said the last of the difficult questions was merely counting back from hundred by 7 .. kinda guarantee Trump had failed that bit!So, back to the orange hued shitgibbon.
How tall is he? How heavy?
6'3" and 224lbs, or 5'11" and closer to 280lbs?
* Its well known that Trump wears shoes 2-3 sizes too big because he is embarrassed about his small feet (also his small hands). I recon 5`11" and 280lbs is about where he is.
Posted : 17/04/2025 2:12 pm
6'3" and 224lbs, or 5'11" and closer to 280lbs?
His doctor says his good health is shown by not simply playing golf but "frequent victories in golf" so I would go with the former. All the photos of him looking shorter than people who are actually 6'3" are clearly the mainstream media photographers making him look bad.
Speaking of medicine and preselected answers. Good to see RFK is confident the causes of autism can be quickly sorted out, despite sacking of a few of the professionals. I expect "environmental factors" will turn out to be vaccines.
Posted : 17/04/2025 3:57 pm
I expect "environmental factors" will turn out to be vaccines.
He's appointed an anti-vaxxer to lead the investigation, so how could it be different?
Posted : 17/04/2025 4:32 pm
Put simply, the nonaligned voters in America have shifted against Trump over tariffs. This is significant because they are the largest political group in the US, at 37% of electors compared with 34% Democrats and 29% Republicans.
What interesting about the non-aligned / independents that voted for trump, especially younger ones, is that polled issue by issue they're against pretty much everything he ran on, and that he is doing. It seems they voted for him as a character / personality but are unsupportive of (and no doubt adversely affected by) his actions.
So we could see quite a radical swing to the democrats in the midterms. But... I doubt that matters. I think the pace of Trumps (or rather Project 2025s) actions demonstrate they know and expect the fun will be over on polling day Nov 2026. They know nothing they do is going to be popular, they just see this as a once only chance do what they want regardless of mandate, they just do what they want, as quickly as they can, while they can.
They and Trump are after all not Republicans - they are cuckoos in the Republcan's nest and they don't care what state the leave the republican party in after they've taken what the want to take, and smashed what they want to smash.
The ruins will gladly be left for the democrat party to deal with.
Posted : 17/04/2025 5:18 pm
vlad_the_invader reacted
That assumes he'll accept an election defeat and not declare a state of emergency and himself president for life.
Posted : 17/04/2025 5:26 pm
Speaking of medicine and preselected answers. Good to see RFK is confident the causes of autism can be quickly sorted out, despite sacking of a few of the professionals. I expect "environmental factors" will turn out to be vaccines.
That's easy, just stop diagnosing Autism. Problem solved..........
Posted : 17/04/2025 6:14 pm
That assumes he'll accept an election defeat and not declare a state of emergency and himself president for life.
The current rumour de jour is he'll be declaring a state of emergency/invoking the Insurrection Act on 20th April. No need to wait for an election defeat.
Posted : 17/04/2025 7:10 pm
That's easy, just stop diagnosing Autism. Problem solved..........
Nah autism is an excuse to ban vaccines. Although the description of "autism" he was using did basically rule out all but the most severe cases.
Posted : 17/04/2025 8:55 pm
The current rumour de jour is he'll be declaring a state of emergency/invoking the Insurrection Act on 20th April.
Why the 20th? Is that when he rises again from the dead to bring in the final days?
Posted : 17/04/2025 8:58 pm
That assumes he'll accept an election defeat and not declare a state of emergency and himself president for life.
The current rumour de jour is he'll be declaring a state of emergency/invoking the Insurrection Act on 20th April. No need to wait for an election defeat.
I got some stick for suggesting that might happen before the midterms, so I'm intrigued by the idea of 20th April. I'm not seeing anything happening or likely to happen by then to even begin to convince folk it's necessary.
Posted : 17/04/2025 9:33 pm
I'm not seeing anything happening or likely to happen by then to even begin to convince folk it's necessary.
Given its easter sunday I suspect its bollocks.
Posted : 17/04/2025 9:54 pm
The current rumour de jour is he'll be declaring a state of emergency/invoking the Insurrection Act on 20th April. No need to wait for an election defeat.
I fink someone is having a giraffe 🤣
Easter Sunday is a traditional Christian celebration of the Insurrection
Posted : 17/04/2025 10:23 pm
The current rumour de jour is he'll be declaring a state of emergency/invoking the Insurrection Act on 20th April. No need to wait for an election defeat.
I fink someone is having a giraffe 🤣
Easter Sunday is a traditional Christian celebration of the Insurrection
Easy mistake to make if you're an orange imbecile who doesn't understand big similar sounding words.
Posted : 17/04/2025 10:45 pm
Bad news for anyone hoping that it would be kicked into the long grass
Posted : 18/04/2025 12:10 am
Donald Trump appears to be chummy with more European politicians than just Viktor Orban
Posted : 18/04/2025 12:14 am
He reckons he’s coming over in September. I’m sure there’s gonna be some creativity to the protests to get around the inevitably huge cordon that’s gonna be thrown up.
“They’re going to do a second, as you know, a second fest … that’s what it is: a fest, and it’s beautiful, and it’s the first time it’s ever happened to one person.”
What a knob. Waddafak is a fest?
Posted : 18/04/2025 12:15 am
I’m sure there’s gonna be some creativity to the protests to get around the inevitably huge cordon that’s gonna be thrown up.
Well it will be interesting to see if the London Mayor will be backing the idea of a giant orange man-child balloon as he did when a Tory government invited Donald Trump on a state visit. Although I won't be holding my breath.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-44737293
London Mayor Sadiq Khan has given permission for the helium-filled six-metre (19.7ft) high balloon to fly.
Posted : 18/04/2025 12:23 am
He reckons he’s coming over in September. I’m sure there’s gonna be some creativity to the protests to get around the inevitably huge cordon that’s gonna be thrown up.
“They’re going to do a second, as you know, a second fest … that’s what it is: a fest, and it’s beautiful, and it’s the first time it’s ever happened to one person.”
What a knob. Waddafak is a fest?
If he lands at prestwick there’s a few folk from Ayrshire I know who will undoubtedly be up to something very big either at prestwick or if he turns up at turnberry for golf, they do not give the slightest **** if they are arrested or what happens to them, last I heard they were buying drones.
Posted : 18/04/2025 2:47 am
The current rumour de jour is he'll be declaring a state of emergency/invoking the Insurrection Act on 20th April. No need to wait for an election defeat.
IMHO to early (and as stated above a larf), I reckon they’ve still got more work to take control of courts and they’ve got a few court battles that will be used to unmask the left deep state and remove the courts that are blocking trump.
There’s a theory that the third term legal issue could well be used as the trigger,if the courts don’t allow trumps name on the ballot.
I think they will wait for some emergency to take advantage of it’s still only the beginning of his presidency so there’s plenty of time to build up some sort of narrative to sell his takeover to his cult.
It’ll all be done legally (well this interpretation will be the most contorted ever)
Posted : 18/04/2025 7:51 am
This nicely sums up much of Trump's agenda
https://www.channel4.com/news/trumps-uni-crackdown-is-not-about-anti-semitism-harvard-professor
Posted : 18/04/2025 8:08 am
Donald Trump appears to be chummy with more European politicians than just Viktor Orban
Well, she and Oban do operate in the same political space, so not a total surprise.
Posted : 18/04/2025 8:29 am
The current rumour de jour is he'll be declaring a state of emergency/invoking the Insurrection Act on 20th April. No need to wait for an election defeat.
IMHO to early (and as stated above a larf), I reckon they’ve still got more work to take control of courts and they’ve got a few court battles that will be used to unmask the left deep state and remove the courts that are blocking trump.
There’s a theory that the third term legal issue could well be used as the trigger,if the courts don’t allow trumps name on the ballot.
I think they will wait for some emergency to take advantage of it’s still only the beginning of his presidency so there’s plenty of time to build up some sort of narrative to sell his takeover to his cult.
It’ll all be done legally (well this interpretation will be the most contorted ever)
Indulging the conspiracy theory, I think now is too soon, but he's sowing the seeds with the deportations, SAVE act, stripping universities of their funding and independence. He needs some of these to get rejected by the courts to play his "will of the people card", and he needs it to happen before the midterms.
If he starts deporting "homegrowns" to El Salvadors prisons that may be the point things get serious. The Democrats are already discussing it by replacing the word "homegrowns" with "American citizens". The legal challenges will be huge, and deporting criminals and wrong uns is always popular until you get classed as a wrong un.
Posted : 18/04/2025 8:44 am
Does anyone really believe Trump has a strategy? Surely he just wakes up and does whatever comes into his head that day!
Posted : 18/04/2025 8:49 am
Apparently we're going to be tangoed in September. That'll be nice. In a world divided, it's always good to know who's lapdog you are.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8k5n33y41 o" target="_blank" rel="noopener">BBC News - Trump suggests UK state visit set for September https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8k5n33y41o
I rarely (never) feel sorry for our hereditary lord and master, but that'll be a weekend to forget for jug ears.
Posted : 18/04/2025 9:09 am
Does anyone really believe Trump has a strategy? Surely he just wakes up and does whatever comes into his head that day!
Nope 🙂
He operates on a whim but other people are facilitating these whims and changing the system as it suits them.
Posted : 18/04/2025 9:10 am
Does anyone really believe Trump has a strategy? Surely he just wakes up and does whatever comes into his head that day!
Well he clearly has an agenda, and some sort of strategy to follow that agenda, see the comments by the President of Harvard in the the Channel 4 link above for examples of that, but it is his tactics which are very much unpredictable.
Part of the problem imo is that Trump says a lot of stuff purely for effect so it is sometimes hard to know if he has changed his mind or whether he was never serious in the first place.
The other thing is that Trump is entering territory which no other US president in recent history has entered, the absurd tariffs, attacks on institutions, defiance of the legal process, etc, so until he tries something he can't be sure of its effect. For example he seems to have come unstuck in his trade war with China so that has resulted in at least some backtracking.
But it would be a mistake imo to believe that Trump and his backers/supporters are just making it up as they go along, they have a fair idea what they are doing.
Posted : 18/04/2025 11:05 am
There are now 2 courts finding the US government in contempt, so I suspect this is going to come to a head quite quickly. I think we are going to see quite soon if the military and the police/fbi etc are loyal to the country or to president Trump.
Posted : 18/04/2025 6:06 pm
MoreCashThanDash reacted
There are now 2 courts finding the US government in contempt, so I suspect this is going to come to a head quite quickly. I think we are going to see quite soon if the military and the police/fbi etc are loyal to the country or to president Trump.
I think there's a question over what powers the courts have to enforce their rulings. I have more faith in the military standing firm rather than law enforcement, too many with a recent memory of being sacrificed by politicians.
Posted : 18/04/2025 7:25 pm
they have a fair idea what they are doing.
The Bond market reation proved that not to be the case. Trump attacked the biggest holders of American bonds which also have massive trade surpluses with the US and yet didn't foresee them reducing their exposure to US tresuries or realise they could be used as a weapon of retaliation. Fool. Fact is China and Japan predicatably IMO sold US tresuries and bought into countires such as Germany where the tarifs were expected to be less inflationary. Whether the selling was retaliation or just good economic management only Japan and China know but it certainly had Trump on the back foot.
Posted : 18/04/2025 8:21 pm
Thanks. I am still none the wiser what Trump's actual policies are though.
Although to be fair I don't suppose that Trump himself is really sure what his policies will be tomorrow.
I don't buy the claim that there is a very carefully thought-out plan.
But it would be a mistake imo to believe that Trump and his backers/supporters are just making it up as they go along, they have a fair idea what they are doing.
Schrodinger's Ernie's Trump.
Posted : 18/04/2025 9:00 pm
