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What are the US tariff implications of filming in space? 🤪 

 

No one can hear you stream.

 


 
Posted : 06/05/2025 7:37 am
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Please don't forget, all this weekend's nonsense is a distraction from what the junta is upto at home.


 
Posted : 06/05/2025 8:58 am
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All the Catholics loved the image of him as the pope, apparently…

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ai-pope-catholics-response-b2745221.html


 
Posted : 06/05/2025 9:26 am
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This is a president. Not that cretinous clown currently squatting in the Oval Office. 


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 10:07 am
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The May 4th "jedi" post by the whitehouse didn't do much better than the pope one.

https://youtube.com/shorts/O-0h4I4TcOU?feature=shared

Surprise surprise, they got it completely arse about face.

He might just as well post pictures of himself riding topless on horseback just like his bestie.


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 10:19 am
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cpdzd2pqgvwo

Do you think even bother to brief him? His surprise when told that Russia can't play at present...


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 10:24 am
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they got it completely arse about face

It's not a mistake. It's about reframing... embracing and celebrating "the dark side". Star Wars is a thinly veiled allegory for the fight against fascism, and how it damages those that are part of it not just those that stand up to it. There's also the ongoing battle about whether caring for others is a strength or a weakness.


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 10:28 am
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His surprise when told that Russia can't play at present...

I don't believe it for a second. This is politics as reality TV... scripted exchanges before the world's media to dangle the carrot of reengagement in a way everyone can see.


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 10:40 am
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I cant help think that with the idiots he has in his cabinet any trade deals he does get will be rubbish for the US.  They just do not have the expertise 

 

He is also desperate for some deals to show the American people 


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 11:18 am
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Link seems to work now.

I wonder what happens to Trump's brain at night.

There was a suggestion from one of the YTube commentators that the film Escape from Alcatraz had been playing on some local Florida channel the night before and that that's where the idea to resurrect it probably come from. 

 


 
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Posted by: Caher

Link seems to work now.

I wonder what happens to Trump's brain at night.

There was a suggestion from one of the YTube commentators that the film Escape from Alcatraz had been playing on some local Florida channel the night before and that that's where the idea to resurrect it probably come from. 

 

Pinky knows apparently.

 


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 1:15 pm
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There was a suggestion from one of the YTube commentators that the film Escape from Alcatraz had been playing on some local Florida channel the night before and that that's where the idea to resurrect it probably come from.

But...they escaped!


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 1:21 pm
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But...they escaped!

Yeah, but that was clearly the fault of the Biden administration. Don't you know that Trump's Alcatraz will be betterer than anything that ever was before, ever?


 
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There was a suggestion from one of the YTube commentators that the film Escape from Alcatraz had been playing on some local Florida channel the night before and that that's where the idea to resurrect it probably come from. 

I'm just amazed he didn't say that only one person ever escaped from Alcatraz, his name was John Mason. But then he went back to help Nicolas Cage stop a chemical missile attack on San Francisco and didn't survive.


 
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I'm just amazed he didn't say that only one person ever escaped from Alcatraz, his name was John Mason. But then he went back to help Nicolas Cage stop a chemical missile attack on San Francisco and didn't survive.

He did say something along the lines of "well there was one guy who escaped but . . . it didn't end well" - I wonder if he just about realised what he was saying and stopped.  

You have to hand it to him, I know it's incoherent jibberish but his ability to keep talking is incredible. 

 


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 2:03 pm
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This is a president. Not that cretinous clown currently squatting in the Oval Office. 

Really., you think so?, he’s a genocide enabler and I hope he lives long enough to be charged as such…..Netanyahu bent him over the resolute desk in the oval office and ****ed him, 50,000+ deaths and untold numbers of amputees created with American supplied bombs and logistics.

Biden did absolutely **** all to reign in Netanyahu and his ghouls.

 


 
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Biden did absolutely **** all to reign in Netanyahu and his ghouls.

 

 

Never a truer word spoken. Biden could have easily reigned in Netanyahu and his far-right neo-fascist government had he chosen to do so, he chose not to.

And I mean easily, the IDF is totally dependent on US support, they could not have murdered 50,000 men women and children without it.


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 3:01 pm
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While talking about Alcatraz, he said "but bigger". Is he planning an extension? He does know it's an island doesn't he?


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 3:33 pm
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-tusli-gabbard-spy-greenland-b2746117.html

“The Wall Street Journal should be ashamed of aiding deep-state actors who seek to undermine the president by politicizing and leaking classified information,” Gabbard told the paper in response to its reporting. 

It's beyond parody that the president and his Director of National Intelligence can continue to blame the deep state.


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 5:13 pm
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And I mean easily, the IDF is totally dependent on US support, they could not have murdered 50,000 men women and children without it.

So couldn't Trump have stopped that too "within 24 hours"?


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 6:08 pm
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And I mean easily, the IDF is totally dependent on US support, they could not have murdered 50,000 men women and children without it.

So couldn't Trump have stopped that too "within 24 hours"?

Aye, without in any way condoning Bidens (and our own 2 governments) failure to halt the Israeli atrocities, Trump hasn't been any better.

 


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 8:48 pm
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And I mean easily, the IDF is totally dependent on US support, they could not have murdered 50,000 men women and children without it.

So couldn't Trump have stopped that too "within 24 hours"?

I don't know about within 24 hours but yes of course Trump could stop the genocide, without a shadow of a doubt. If the suggestion that there isn't any difference between Trump and Biden with regards to Palestine I totally agree and I believe that was somafunk's point too.

 


 
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that there isn't any difference between Trump and Biden with regards to Palestine I totally agree

We have a USA president that in his last term in office pushed for settler expansion and for the whole of Jerusalem to be accepted by his country as being part of Israel. In his second term he has called for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. He is not “the same as” Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Carter and others. They all fell short. He is still far worse for the Palestinian people. It’s time to wake up to that. There will be no Palestinians left in Palestine, at all, if we get another 7 years of Trump led policy for the region.


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 10:03 pm
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He is not “the same as” Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Carter and others. 

Certainly Trump isn't the same as Obama or Clinton with regards to Israel, or even Ronald Reagan, but no one has claimed that he is.

The claim is that Trump and Biden are no different when it comes to giving support to Israel. If you can't see that it is because you haven't followed events very closely and you have swallowed Biden's public relations exercise of publicly slapping Israel's wrist in the full knowledge that Israel would totally ignore it and just carry on doing exactly what they wanted to do.

Biden did not stop Netanyahu from doing anything he wanted to do. There were no significant policy differences between Biden and Trump with regards to Israel. Both talked bollocks whilst neither stopped Israel doing what it wanted to do.

Israeli oppression of the Palestinians in the West Bank went unabated during Biden's presidency,  indeed it was probably the greatest catalyst for the Hamas attack on Oct 7. The evidence is overwhelming, here is just one small piece 

https://www.nrc.no/news/2022/july/for-each-day-biden-spends-in-office-israel-displaces-3-palestinians

 


 
Posted : 07/05/2025 11:30 pm
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Could be Trump-slop but it looks like there's a trade deal coming for the UK-USA.

Turbo-charged change.


 
Posted : 08/05/2025 4:50 am
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Honestly, >I would not believe that until the ink dries on the paper and, even then, the US has shown itself to not really GAS about things like agreements.

I'd also put money on any deal with the US being heavily weighted towards US gain and not in any way being fair.


 
Posted : 08/05/2025 5:37 am
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Could be Trump-slop but it looks like there's a trade deal coming for the UK-USA.

TBH he needs a photo opportunity for the next episode and Starmer probably wants a photo opportunity as well so it’s a win-win for them . Also blocks Farage from banging on about a trade deal with his bestest bud Donald over the next 4 years and kills any ideas of Farage being a political go between.


 
Posted : 08/05/2025 6:17 am
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I'd also put money on any deal with the US being heavily weighted towards US gain and not in any way being fair.

Thing is Trump gets fixated on things like why Europe won’t buy their cars  so we just agree for lower tariffs on things that the U.K. doesn’t want, F150s monster trucks and caddies ,5 litre v8’s , knowing full well that the manufacturers are unlikely to build in RHD form and ‘most’ people aren’t really that keen on sport trucks.


 
Posted : 08/05/2025 6:26 am
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Could be Trump-slop but it looks like there's a trade deal coming for the UK-USA.

Also blocks Farage from banging on about a trade deal with his bestest bud Donald over the next 4 years and kills any ideas of Farage being a political go between.

if Farage fans cared about trade deals they wouldn't have been in favour of Brexit. And Farage is the only person that thinks he and Trump are friends, or that he actually has a profile in the US. Maga and republicans don't have any interest in this ugly-toothed funny-talking foreigner. 

 


 
Posted : 08/05/2025 7:43 am
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I had to smile at this reaction from President Trump to India's attack on ****stan, a sovereign state since 1947,

"It's a shame, we just heard about it" "I guess people knew something was going to happen based on a little bit of the past. They've been fighting for a long time; many, many decades and centuries actually if you really think about it." TV interview from RapidResponse47 (official Trump 47th President channel, holding Fake News accountable) on TwitterX

EDIT "****stan". The original 1933 acronym is "Pakstan", does that work?

Yes


 
Posted : 08/05/2025 7:54 am
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I had to smile at this reaction from President Trump to India's attack on ****stan, a sovereign state since 1947,

It's not just the level of ignorance of Trump himself, it's the fact that his team either aren't briefing him, or reining him in.

I've heard of people being pure evil, but pure stupid is pretty dangerous too.

 


 
Posted : 08/05/2025 8:01 am
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Well although now he is Pope Cardinal Prevost will presumably be a bit less keen to wade into internal US politics his elevation to Pope won't be great news for Trump, especially as Pope Leo will undoubtedly have a firm grip when it comes to understanding US politics.

And Trump's remarkable tolerance of Pope Francis's criticism was no doubt connected to the fact that 20% of Americans claim to be Catholic.

https://archive.is/2025.05.08-200519/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/us/politics/jd-vance-pope-leo-xiv.html

Edit :  Sorry the archive link doesn't appear to be working 


 
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13000metric tonnes of beef is what we're letting in. On the plus side he won't understand the metrics system.  Mind you that have faridge up in arms. Why not imperial tons?


 
Posted : 09/05/2025 5:06 am
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According to Starmer only beef that meets our food standards.

 

Reality is going tobite at least one of Trump and Starmer


 
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13000metric tonnes of beef is what we're letting in. On the plus side he won't understand the metrics system.  Mind you that have faridge up in arms. Why not imperial tons?


 
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13000metric tonnes of beef is what we're letting in. On the plus side he won't understand the metrics system.  Mind you that have faridge up in arms. Why not imperial tons?


 
Posted : 09/05/2025 5:28 am
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80-90% of US beef is hormone fed, which means its mostly organic beef that would be allowed in

that's has a hefty price premium over hormone fed, up to 67% more, not sure how that will be profitable to ship & sell here

https://www.extension.iastate.edu/agdm/articles/schulz/SchDec20.html

i can't see American beef farmers being too excited by this 


 
Posted : 09/05/2025 6:37 am
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Shirley this mutant US beef will have to marked on the package and then the buyer will avoid? Unless it's surreptitiously fed to various institutions.


 
Posted : 09/05/2025 8:30 am
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the frankenbeef does not meet our food standards and cannot be imported unless we lower standards which Starmer has said he will not do


 
Posted : 09/05/2025 9:59 am
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It says something to me that there's a confusion of threads when you want to make a comment about President Trump: Ukraine, Gaza, Syria, UK Government and even the Pope. Hmmm


 
Posted : 09/05/2025 10:19 am
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which Starmer has said he will not do

 

Starmer has said a lot of things, that he has then backtracked on once the media have moved on, to misquote an old Samuel Goldwyn saying, a Starmer promise isn't worth the paper it is written on. 


 
Posted : 09/05/2025 10:25 am
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If Starmer does let the frankenbeef in then that means no deal on food and veterinary standards with the EU.  Reeves has said quite rightly the EU deal is more important and Starmer knows this as well.  Its a simple question of volume 

 

I suspect the deal which is only an outline at the moment may collapse over this


 
Posted : 09/05/2025 10:46 am
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I suspect the deal which is only an outline at the moment may collapse over this

That wouldn't surprise me. By accident or design, Starmer looks like he may come out of this ok

 


 
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It says something to me that there's a confusion of threads when you want to make a comment about President Trump: Ukraine, Gaza, Syria, UK Government and even the Pope. Hmmm

What does it say to you........ that the United States and its president have a profound effluence on us and the rest of the world?

And on that note......apparently there has been a very long standing reluctance to having an American Pope (I think the United States has the fourth largest Catholic population in the world)  because it was considered that it would increase US global influence, and the reason the current Pope made it was because he is seen as half Peruvian, which he is, and it would appear that Peruvians are celebrating that fact.

 


 
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Shirley this mutant US beef will have to marked on the package and then the buyer will avoid?

Yes, they will appease us by clearly labelling it, but it will still be cheap so the poor will not have a choice and it will negatively affect their health, as so many things do.  Also, restaurants will buy it and feed it to us without labelling it. Nandos and KFC will of course use chlorinated chicken and the customers won't know.


 
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Yep, people who buy £1 frozen lasagnes are probably not in the same position as someone choosing top quality British steak.


 
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There are no changes on food standards. There can’t be, because any reduction in standards for USA imports would also have to apply for UK grown food, which would then prevent any meaningful arrangements with the EU and Europe more widely. All that is happening is that USA beef that already passes UK/EU standards, and can already be imported, now has a higher quota before tariffs are applied. The food you can buy and eat in the UK will be the same as it was before the “deal”.


 
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president have a profound effluence on us 

Nice work, Ernie, i assume it was deliberate rather than autocorrect. Deserved more recognition. 


 
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Out of interest, what are the supposed (adverse?) effects of consuming hormone-fed beef and/or "chlorinated" chicken? And what sort of volumes of consumption would trigger such effects?

(I eat chicken at least once per week but only eat beef a couple of times per year)


 
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Out of interest, what are the supposed (adverse?) effects of consuming hormone-fed beef


 
Posted : 09/05/2025 4:17 pm
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I know it's low-level stuff by Trump standards, but his "victory day" tweet is almost perfect Trump.

1) he doesn't actually know when world war 2 ended, and while telling us all how important is is, declares that "world war 2 victory day" is to be on VE day. Yeah the war in the pacific which was mostly american? The nuking of japan? The literal end of the ****ing war? Never heard of those.

2) Ends Veteran's Day entirely and turns it into WW1 Victory Day. There is now to be no national veteran's celebration at all. (there are no living american ww1 veterans and 99.5% of all american veterans are post-ww2)

3) Quietly takes away the federal holiday for Veteran's Day because "we have too many holidays". There were 12 federal holidays in a year but federal holidays aren't mandatory anyway. Americans have an average of 10 paid working days per year. 


 
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Posted by: vlad_the_invader

Out of interest, what are the supposed (adverse?) effects of consuming hormone-fed beef and/or "chlorinated" chicken? And what sort of volumes of consumption would trigger such effects?

(I eat chicken at least once per week but only eat beef a couple of times per year)

Fill yer boots. 

https://www.pcrm.org/good-nutrition/nutrition-information/chicken

 


 
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president have a profound effluence on us 

Nice work, Ernie, i assume it was deliberate rather than autocorrect. Deserved more recognition. 

Sadly I can't claim credit for that. Autocorrect with an apparent political axe to grind and a lack of concentration on my part.

 


 
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Out of interest, what are the supposed (adverse?) effects of consuming hormone-fed beef and/or "chlorinated" chicken? And what sort of volumes of consumption would trigger such effects?

the issue is more that liow welfare standards and higher salmonella rates require the extra chlorine wash 

hormone fed beef is about welfare as well, the cows grow quicker and dont graze as much, hormones (its a cocktail of 6 that are given) can increase cancer risk tho levels are low.

there was a very good breakdown on the bbc about much lower welfare pork standards in the USA, and their reliance on antibiotics because of the increased diseased risk

 

 

 


 
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Yes, they will appease us by clearly labelling it, but it will still be cheap so the poor will not have a choice and it will negatively affect their health, as so many things do.  Also, restaurants will buy it and feed it to us without labelling it. Nandos and KFC will

the cheaper lower welfare and cholrinated chicken etc is not allowed as part of this deal 


 
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actually this is just the outline of a deal with very little detail.

 

Starter says we will not be lowering food standards and he knows if we do any deal with the EU becomes impossible  

 

the US side we will take their frankenbeef.

 

The devil is in the detail and no details have been negotiated 


 
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2025/05/08/new-pope-woke-leo-xiv-views/83519517007/

This should perhaps be on the Pope thread but there are some proper little gems about MAGA supporters such as 

'Woke pope,' screams the MAGA crowd. Apparently, Jesus' own teachings go too far.

And 

the right-wing loon-o-sphere

I've never heard of the loon-o-sphere before but I love it 🙂


 
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What does it say to you........ that the United States and its president have a profound effluence on us and the rest of the world?

That, and one man's capricious whims.

Power should be subject to checks, balances and a sense of Noblesse oblige, as the English say


 
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Here’s a good one missed whilst everyone’s distracted over the no-deal.

White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller said Friday that the Trump administration is "actively looking at" suspending habeas corpus, the right of a person to challenge their detention in court.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wh-trump-suspending-habeas-corpus/story?id=121653587

Miller justified the potential suspension of habeas corpus by arguing the United States is currently facing a national security threat by undocumented migrants "invading" the United States.

 

 


 
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The devil is in the detail and no details have been negotiated

TJ+1 (I keep agreeing with you 🙂 )

The U.S.-UK Economic Prosperity Deal is an agreement to negotiate and isn't legally binding. Full deal here


 
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You don't want to do that Timba


 
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You don't want to do that Timba

It's a slippery slope, mark my words!

 


 
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Wowsers

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-administration-poised-accept-palace-sky-gift-trump/story?id=121680511

The highly unusual -- unprecedented -- arrangement is sure to raise questions about whether it is legal for the Trump administration, and ultimately, the Trump presidential library foundation, to accept such a valuable gift from a foreign power.

Anticipating those questions, sources told ABC News that lawyers for the White House counsel's office and the Department of Justice drafted an analysis for Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth concluding that is legal for the Department of Defense to accept the aircraft as a gift and later turn it over to the Trump library, and that it does not violate laws against bribery or the Constitution's prohibition (the emoluments clause) of any U.S. government official accepting gifts "from any King, Prince or foreign State."


 
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Trump has dropped china tarrifs.  He caved in


 
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The Alasdair Campbell / Rory Stewart "Leading" interview with Michael Wolff was superb, he really explains well what Trump is about (Spoiler: Trumps is self serving, thick, headline grabber with zero strategic thinking). 


 
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So Trump's not allowed to accept gifts, but the Pentagon is allowed to accept gifts (that Trump can use however he likes while president, with a built in clause that he'll get them to keep after being president).

 

I'll remember that this is perfectly legal when next doing my taxes 😁


 
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Shame it wasnt a 737.


 
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This is the part I do not get about the plane story. What kind of library do these people have?

"According to CBS News, the BBC's news partner in America, the plane would be donated to Trump's presidential library at the end of his term."

and

"Air Force One planes usually carry over to other administrations. According to the National Archives, only the Reagan presidential library has an Air Force One jet, and it flew seven presidents before being donated."


 
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Trump has dropped china tarrifs.  He caved in

 

Dropped to what was in place before his current admin, or reduced to 30% ?

 


 
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This is the part I do not get about the plane story. What kind of library do these people have?

 

My cousin was working for a mobile library for a couple of years, basically driving around between different villages so kids could borrow books.

I assume it'll be like that, only way more polluting. And no books, just golf magazines and porn.


 
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This is the part I do not get about the plane story. What kind of library do these people have?

Libraries like this?

Airforce One Pavilion 


 
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Has CNN allowed themselves to be utterly ****ed up the arse by the Trump crowd?, their reporting on the tariff negotiations below is utter nonsensical and could just as easily be a Trump press release

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/12/business/china-trade-deal-trump


 
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In 4+ years time when the US looks back on this period, what are they going to say? 


 
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In 4+ years time when the US looks back on this period, what are they going to say? 

That kind of thinking is very 2016. That this a blip for the USA. A period soon to be looked back on as a crazy misstep. I fear it’s a change for the long term, and its effects will be long lasting across the world.


 
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It's the obvious state of the guy, I watched some of the "presser" over the plane thing and he's like a precocious 7 year hyped up on Sunny D.  Nothing makes any sense and he's happy so long as he can just keep talking.  It really doesn't matter what comes out of his mouth. 

 

 


 
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It really doesn't matter what comes out of his mouth. 

I made the mistake of clicking on one of his interviews on FB recently, so now I’m bombarded with his lunacy. When you look into it, it’s far worse than the news channels report, his, and his cohorts, interviews are total madness, with no grounding of truth. The idiot drugs rep last week who told him he’d saved 250 million lives in 3 months, yet there are only 300million people in the USA. Senators, who 6 months ago were saying “X/Y/Z is a brilliant thing, we need it” then now saying the opposite, and denying they ever said it. Trump saying Canada is a small buyer of USA goods, yet figures show they are the biggest buyer of USA goods. It goes on. Luckily, from what I’ve seen, many more people are calling out their lies and pathetic plans. 

Oh, and 59 repressed white people from South Africa were been given refugee status yesterday, and picked up by the USA. Strange that. They’ve said no more immigrants, yet they have taken these people in, supposedly without much questioning.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crljn5046epo


 
Posted : 13/05/2025 12:35 pm
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this a blip for the USA. A period soon to be looked back on as a crazy misstep.

I don't think the US has ever been a stable place.  First it was a money making scheme based on rapacious colonialism, then the shit hit the fan, then there was a brief interlude of socialist nation building which was gradually forgotten when the money started rolling in after WW2, then the second lot of neoliberal shit hit the fan and we are now catching up with that.


 
Posted : 13/05/2025 12:59 pm
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Posted by: alanl

Oh, and 59 repressed white people from South Africa were been given refugee status yesterday, and picked up by the USA. Strange that. They’ve said no more immigrants, yet they have taken these people in, supposedly without much questioning.

 

 

 

Par for the course, the president is now importing racist apartheid loving ****s into a country that voted for a racist apartheid president

 

makes perfect sense 


 
Posted : 13/05/2025 1:12 pm
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Posted by: alanl

Oh, and 59 repressed white people from South Africa were been given refugee status yesterday, and picked up by the USA. Strange that. They’ve said no more immigrants, yet they have taken these people in, supposedly without much questioning.

 

 

 

Par for the course, the president is now importing racist apartheid loving ****s into a country that voted for a racist apartheid president

 

makes perfect sense 

I hate agreeing with Trump but South African farmers are being killed at a rate that could be called genocidal. Whether they are entitled to the land they are on is another story but without farmers there is no food.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-41807642

I don't know if these 59 people were farmers or not but I think it's a bit harsh to assume that people who look fairly young were part of the Apartheid regime since that was 30 years ago. They may have parents who like me grew up in the Apartheid era and may be influenced by it. But I know I was one of many white Saffers who took part in anti apartheid demonstrations when I was at Uni. Don't tar us all with the same brush. 

 


 
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