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trump clearly has a personality disorder / is a psychopath.

It seems so incredibly obvious to us over here, but the pro-Trump media must have incredible power if they can hide it from half the US population.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 3:44 pm
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the pro-Trump media must have incredible power if they can hide it from half the US population

They don't really need to hide anything. Trump's power with the media, whether its intentional or not, is that by blurting out the first thing he thinks (which is usually the last thing he heard) the things he says are usually in tune with the opinions or prejudices of someone. By flipflopping around and contradicting himself frequently he at least doubles the number of people who his ideas seem to be in step with.

If you're critical of trump nothing he says is going to suddenly win you round but if you're supportive of Trump theres always something he's saying that you want to hear.  It doesn't matter if the things he says aren't true or don't happen or if he even flatly denies that it said it because you'll either not notice or think its the fault of the media or the democrats or the deep state - because you heard him say what you want to hear and he's the President.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:18 pm
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trump clearly has a personality disorder / is a psychopath.

That is the odd thing - it is so obvious he is an ill man. It was obvious years before he was elected. Which is why I can't really blame him for anything that has happened since. He is the personification of a Ronseal POTUS- delivering exactly the sort of presidency you would have imagined from the outset.

I blame the american voters that voted for him and the Democrats for not putting up a good enough candidate to score in an open net. Finally I blame all those that didn't bother to vote who should have either not been so lazy or held their noses and voted for Hilary given the disaster they had the power to prevent. Regardless I have REALLY struggled to feel sorry for the Americans for any ills that have befallen them since 2017. They collectively did it to themselves. An american accent has never sounded so stupid; which is a great shame for those that aren't.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:32 pm
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I blame the american voters that voted for him and the Democrats

Far, far more blame lies with the Republicans than the Democrats. He ran for the nomination to spite them under the threat that he'd run against them if he didn't get nominated. Its the spinelessness of mainstream and moderate Republicans that has enabled Trump.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:40 pm
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An american accent has never sounded so stupid; which is a great shame for those that aren’t.

his accent is getting stranger and stranger, he doesn't sound like any american i've met or any i can think of on the tele box. It really sounded quite bizarre the other day.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:43 pm
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convert 0- psycopathy / personality is not an illness as such ( well there is some debate but generally not thought of as one) its more akin to a fault in the hardware in a computer. No matter what you do you will not change the underlying faults. You can teach people to ameliorate their behaviour

Its surprisingly prevalent especially in the top ranks of business where the attributes of ruthlessness and lack of empathy may help you succeed


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:49 pm
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where the attributes of ruthlessness and lack of empathy

It's more than ruthlessness and lack of empathy - I think he lives in a parallel universe when it comes to truth. I'm pretty convinced he is not consciously lying and contradicting himself (aspd/sociopath)?


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:54 pm
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Sociopath is not a term used much nowadays - its personality disorder / psychopathy IIRC ( not really my feild)
It manifests in a number of ways and with different traits in different people and there are a range of personality disorders One of these traits is the arrogance. Trump in his own mind cannot be wrong because he is so smart. Anything that contradicts him is fake - even if it was himself yesterday. He is not consciously lying. He truly believes everything he says is right and nothing will sway that view. its not uncommon


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 5:16 pm
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I’m pretty convinced he is not consciously lying and contradicting himself

He's a bullshitter. To lie you actually need to know what the truth is. A bullshitter is unconcerned about the truth. Trump only lies when he's been caught bullshitting.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 5:22 pm
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Would a crowd funded assassination work?


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 5:29 pm
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Obvious narcissistic personality disorder is obvious


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 5:31 pm
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I've seen lots of claims. Also including dementia and syphilis.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 5:50 pm
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including dementia

If thats the case he's had dementia for pretty much his whole life.

I think most of his symptoms can are the result of underlying wealth issues.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 6:11 pm
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I think he’d still be an absolute **** if he was poor tbh


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 6:23 pm
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If you read the definitions / symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder its a pretty much perfect fit


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 6:38 pm
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He’s a bullshitter. To lie you actually need to know what the truth is. A bullshitter is unconcerned about the truth. Trump only lies when he’s been caught bullshitting.

I think most of his symptoms can are the result of underlying wealth issues.

I think your right 🙂


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 6:40 pm
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Well written opinion piece on the dangers of the science-denying Christian Nationalism that props up Trump:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/opinion/coronavirus-trump-evangelicals.html


 
Posted : 01/04/2020 12:26 am
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Anyone currently watching trumps press briefing?, he’s getting riled by the questions from the “fake news” correspondents and he looks ready to blow up


 
Posted : 04/04/2020 12:28 am
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He's also blaming Obahma.

Trump blames Obama for lack of pandemic prep

Pressed by a reporter over why the US was not more prepared for the pandemic, Mr Trump blamed the Obama administration, saying "the shelves were empty, we had no ammunition or medical supplies".

He also claimed he inherited "broken" tests, though it is unclear what he meant as the previous administration would not have developed such tests.

"I always knew that pandemics are one of the worst things that could happen," Mr Trump said.


 
Posted : 04/04/2020 12:44 am
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https://twitter.com/ecmclaughlin/status/1246205935824941056?s=21

He’s just engaged full trump mode


 
Posted : 04/04/2020 12:47 am
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Pressed by a reporter over why the US was not more prepared for the pandemic, Mr Trump blamed the Obama administration, saying “the shelves were empty, we had no ammunition or medical supplies”.

He also claimed he inherited “broken” tests, though it is unclear what he meant as the previous administration would not have developed such tests.

“I always knew that pandemics are one of the worst things that could happen,” Mr Trump said.

Trump deliberately starved the CDC of funding, and removed people from research areas, he basically emasculated the whole operation, he even had a CDC member removed and returned to the US who was liaising with and working with the Chinese in Wuhan, and sending reports back home, giving vital initial info that the Chinese weren’t releasing, so then the US was pretty much in the dark as to how C19 was spreading.
I say again, the man is almost certainly guilty of presiding over what will likely become the greatest loss of civilian lives in the US since 1918.
While blaming everybody but himself.


 
Posted : 05/04/2020 12:04 am
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I think he balanced all that out though by putting his completely unqualified son in law in charge, that showed real leadership


 
Posted : 05/04/2020 12:30 am
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The bloke only seems to have a 30-second memory. Constantly denies things he's said or has insinuated, constantly berates reporters who are obviously highly educated yet speaks to them like a spoilt 5-year-old.


 
Posted : 05/04/2020 12:40 am
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If you read the definitions / symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder its a pretty much perfect fit

Read something about that ages ago, may even have posted about it in the very early days of this thread; I think I saw a list of twenty indicators, and The Impeached One ticks the lot!
This piece of graffiti, clearly an homage to Banksy, popped up recently, it made my day when I spotted it...


 
Posted : 05/04/2020 10:40 pm
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Too egotistical, so won't do anything. He's pretty much waiting for the final death toll to come in then look about for someone to blame.


 
Posted : 05/04/2020 11:01 pm
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1246557500234661900


 
Posted : 05/04/2020 11:34 pm
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Holy balls


 
Posted : 05/04/2020 11:38 pm
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Someone please shoot him


 
Posted : 06/04/2020 12:45 am
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Someone please shoot him

Honestly, if I heard he’d been assassinated, I’d be out front applauding and letting off fireworks! I genuinely feel he’s just too dangerous to be allowed to carry on as President! What I posted earlier about him being comparable to Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and Pol Pot regarding the number of his own people whose deaths he’s going to be directly responsible for is something I genuinely believe, and history will not be kind to him, or anyone associated with him.

He’s pretty much waiting for the final death toll to come in then look about for someone to blame.

It’s clear from earlier comments he’s already starting to blame Obama...


 
Posted : 06/04/2020 12:58 am
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So with mass burials in New York and the infection count, therefore the death toll too, running pretty much uncontrolled in the US how is Trump going to escape this?
How are the poor without health insurance going to get help?

He's in real danger of overseeing a massive amount of damage to the whole country and as far as I can tell he's trying to bluff his way through it by buying untested medicines, making silly 'jokes' about him doing a good job and lambasting the media stories he doesn't like as his usual 'fake news'. He can't survive this into another term surely?


 
Posted : 11/04/2020 7:58 am
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He can’t survive this into another term surely?

Hopefully not.

But I have my concerns regarding the power of pre-existing political bias among the electorate.


 
Posted : 11/04/2020 9:08 am
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If any good can come from the likely horrendous death toll of this pandemic, it might make the easily led rethink their voting strategy to look beyond media hype, on both sides of the Atlantic.

But I fear it won't

If the Democrats can't win by pointing out who got rid of the pandemic planning committee last year, Gold help America


 
Posted : 11/04/2020 9:19 am
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His Supporters dont seem to see the real World, and blame the virus on the 'liberals' or non believers.The virus has affected, mainly, the Democratic states, so he isnt bothered. His support comes from the barely literate (my opinion) population in the Country which are, mainly, insulated from outside events as they live far enough away from other people, with less population movement in their areas.
He comes up with the most blatant lying statements, yet TV interviews show his support truly believe him.
The whole administration is crooked, sacking the USN Captain, stopping help for Michigan, as the Governor there had slightly criticised Trump, allowing Church meetings when all other gatherings are cancelled etc.
I despair with the USA now.


 
Posted : 11/04/2020 9:40 am
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One tactic Trump will surely use to get back in is to blame the Chinese.

He's made a huge thing of China bashing to date. His voters like that. It wouldn't be much of a leap for him to say how he was ahead of the curve on China being a wrong un. He saw it coming etc. Only he will be tough about it.

This tactic should be fairly robust even with a mounting domestic death toll.


 
Posted : 11/04/2020 9:43 am
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Follow this journalist on Twitter who does a highlights reel of Trump's daily briefings.

It is insane. INSANE. And yet I can't help but feel Trump is going to win the next election.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1248698754556923904


 
Posted : 11/04/2020 10:06 am
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He’s made a huge thing of China bashing to date. His voters like that.

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Posted : 11/04/2020 10:12 am
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I listened to a cracking podcast the other day. It’s show 153 of Matt Forde’s Political Party series. The guest? Anthony Scaramucci! Yep, the Mooch himself. No great love lost between himself and Trump so it’s pretty brutal, but a cracking listen. Spotify link below.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/16NCxFzUaF4CSSd66ohFsR?si=STtJSzLuTeCGc-Ir8wQqPw


 
Posted : 11/04/2020 10:19 am
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Deadlydarcy.

Yes, I've been checking up on the Mooch as well, he's been way ahead of the curve on this one, both with the dangers of the virus and the omnipresent economic dangers.

It was from him that I got my head round the idea of Corporate Socialism, the thing I've been banging on about on the 'We're all in this together yeah?' thread. Not as good as him at selling the idea though! Still, that 'ain't going to stop me. 😎


 
Posted : 11/04/2020 4:13 pm
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More Cash Than Dash.

The really crazy thing is that the Pandemic Planning Comittee was set up by George W Bush.

Apparently, back in 2005 as New Orleans was drowning he began setting up a program to prepare for potential pandemics. He read a book about the Spanish Flu whilst on holiday and became obsessed by it. When he came back from his hols he wouldn't shut up about it, his coleages thought him a little obsessed and tried to distract him from it. He wouldn't give up on it and eventually managed to secure 7 billion in funding for the project. (there's a speech he gave back in 2005 on you tube) Both Obama and Trump failed to keep up the stock levels of equipment as it either got used up or went out of date. It's said that much of the material the US does have to fight the Pandemic is from what's left over from the stockpile Bush set up.

Who'd have thunk?


 
Posted : 11/04/2020 4:27 pm
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Inkster - interesting, thanks for that.


 
Posted : 11/04/2020 4:35 pm
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Last night's press conference, pushes jaw back up.
He turned a virus update into a campaign rally about how good he was handling things and how many lives he has saved.
Any reporters who ask nasty questions get scolded like naughty children then ignored.
Grim times indeed.


 
Posted : 14/04/2020 2:30 pm
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He's madder than a bucket of spiders!

last nights 'performance' was absolutely off the scale

I'm sure Boris and every other world leader are thanking the lord that Trump is around, as the world's population breathes a collective sigh of relief and says "well it could be worse. We could have that unhinged maniac in charge"


 
Posted : 14/04/2020 2:36 pm
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watched edited highlights. I find it both utterly amazing and depressing at the same time that networks in the US are having to either highlight to their viewers that anything Trump says needs careful fact checking or is just downright lies or cutting away when the briefing gets too partisan and obviously campaign based


 
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