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Is my opinion important?

We're having a discussion. I kinda think the opinion of the people I'm having a discussion with is pretty much the point of a discussion.

Sorry you value yours so poorly.

Whereas taking us into an illegal war in iraq......

Did he campaign on "Vote for me and I'll take us into an illegal war in Iraq"?

I must have missed that particular Party Political Broadcast. 😀


 
Posted : 15/12/2017 11:09 pm
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You keep making the assumption that the person is guilty based on all the allegations.

Cite

I have repeatedly said [b]ignoring the allegations[/b], his stated views are repugnant to me.


 
Posted : 15/12/2017 11:10 pm
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But Chewkw seems to be suggesting that doesn't matter, which is what I am querying
so you are querying his reasoning

Can I bet one whole pound his reason is equally unclear - by which i mean completely incomprehensible.


 
Posted : 15/12/2017 11:15 pm
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We're having a discussion. I kinda think the opinion of the people I'm having a discussion with is pretty much the point of a discussion.

Does opinion matter in discussion? Do people really want to understand others or are they merely there to "educate" others? I see people as they are with their own opinions and their identities. I prefer them exactly as they are.
Sorry you value yours so poorly.
Interesting to see the usage of the term "value". Is there a "dominant" value? Is value the cause world problems? Let's give it a thought. 😀

GrahamS - Member
You keep making the assumption that the person is guilty based on all the allegations.
Cite
😯


 
Posted : 15/12/2017 11:27 pm
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Actually he has been [i]relatively[/i] clear Junky. I'll quote him as I know you have him blocked.

The objective is to keep Democrats out regardless while the rest can be dealt with later. Democrats must be kept out at all cost.

Which to be fair seems to be in keeping with the exit polls where 8% of those polled who voted for Moore did so despite thinking it was definitely or probably true that he was a child molester.

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Posted : 15/12/2017 11:32 pm
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Are those exit polls reliable?


 
Posted : 15/12/2017 11:34 pm
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Actually he has been relative clear Junky. I'll quote him as I know you have him blocked.

Opps quickly delete my response to ...

I thought everyone was having a deep conversation with me. 😆


 
Posted : 15/12/2017 11:38 pm
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Are those exit polls reliable?

They reflect the stated views of the 2,387 randomly selected voters who were interviewed.

Not sure we can say much more than that. That's why I am always careful to say "of those polled".


 
Posted : 15/12/2017 11:59 pm
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Though unless people were lying (and there appears no obvious reason to lie in a way which make you appear worse than you are) then we know that some people voted for Moore despite believing the allegations.


 
Posted : 16/12/2017 12:14 am
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In the meantime, it appears that the Orange Buffoon and his fellow-travellers are trying to edit some words...

[url= https://www.google.es/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/trump-administration-banned-7-words-and-phrases-from-cdc-documents-2017-12 ]Banned[/url]

Next stop books, perhaps. Nice big bonfires...


 
Posted : 16/12/2017 9:08 am
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Tells you everything you need to know, they have to hide the truth and deny it exists as their policy and ideology is based on hate, anger and greed. Like the 1 page budget summary and much more.


 
Posted : 16/12/2017 9:18 am
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Has the Chekbot got a performance review coming up ?
He seems to have sprung into action after a period of inactivity.
I just hope his review is based upon number of words rather than content as his last few posts have been incoherent, rambling and painful to read (even by his standards)


 
Posted : 16/12/2017 9:51 am
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I'm not sure you can defend Trump with coherent structured arguments.


 
Posted : 16/12/2017 10:30 am
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I'm not sure you can defend Trump

EFA.


 
Posted : 16/12/2017 1:46 pm
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Nice to see that the President's use of 'all the best words' is trickling down into the world of science.

[url= https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-diversity/2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html?utm_term=.350dbdc03114 ]CDC told to stop using the term 'evidence based' in its reports[/url]


 
Posted : 16/12/2017 2:28 pm
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So, you're not actually following the thread, then... 😐


 
Posted : 16/12/2017 2:33 pm
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So, you're not actually following the thread, then...

Oh, missed that, must've skipped some Chewk-contributions and your post was collateral damage.


 
Posted : 16/12/2017 2:36 pm
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Well, I AM just a maggot... 😉


 
Posted : 16/12/2017 2:45 pm
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It's better then being a bawbag!


 
Posted : 16/12/2017 2:50 pm
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One up from a zombie maggot


 
Posted : 16/12/2017 5:10 pm
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Boingboing’s take on the CDC depacle:
https://boingboing.net/2017/12/16/party-over-pathogens.html
The world is truly going to Sheol in a handcart...
😐


 
Posted : 16/12/2017 6:06 pm
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In a highly ironic twist, Trump's team are squawking about the handover of a trove of potentially dodgy emails from the transition.

This is a fairly concise sum-up of how their former Halliburton/Giuliani stooge lawyer carelessly got ill and died rather than doing his job of keeping Mueller away from them.

https://twitter.com/HoarseWisperer/status/942221228483469312


 
Posted : 17/12/2017 11:06 am
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IS that definitely true though it seems to be a claim

It would be deightful if it was true though


 
Posted : 17/12/2017 11:57 am
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jeez, that was painful.....


 
Posted : 17/12/2017 12:20 pm
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that was a proper kicking

Have you ever been a lawyer - erm not really

DO you know the law ....erm not really

No one needs judges on a steep learning curve about the law !!


 
Posted : 17/12/2017 12:26 pm
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TBH US judges are very different from hours. Just look at Disgraced Former Chief Justice Roy Moore.


 
Posted : 17/12/2017 3:18 pm
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Are they any good at taking minutes?


 
Posted : 17/12/2017 5:06 pm
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I did smile at that, but only for a second


 
Posted : 17/12/2017 5:57 pm
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Is that even relevant? The purpose of voting for [s]Republican[/s] Repugnicants is simply to keep Democrats out,

There, FTFY.


 
Posted : 17/12/2017 6:58 pm
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Ah well. Thyme files.


 
Posted : 17/12/2017 9:24 pm
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Psst! Mueller out on 22nd. Pass it along!


 
Posted : 17/12/2017 9:25 pm
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Psst! Mueller out on 22nd. Pass it along!

Mueller already has 50k+ emails that the Trump team thought they had withheld. He's interviewed the whole team while already knowing the answers and by the time Trump can legally fire him he could have most of his team/family arrested. This coming weeks going to be interesting!


 
Posted : 18/12/2017 12:17 am
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It's possible they may undercut him a little by taking out Rosenstein, who appointed him in the first place.

Trump has basically screwed himself the moment he impulsively fired Comey, who was already politically compromised and could be discredited when it suited, which, coupled with Sessions getting himself recused and Rosenstein not being the patsy he was hoping, led to a far more vigorous investigation which can only be derailed at massive political cost.

That, and possibly his associates being arrogant and dumb enough to commit incriminating emails to a .gov server. 😀


 
Posted : 18/12/2017 10:05 am
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That, and possibly his associates being arrogant and dumb enough to commit incriminating emails to a .gov server

A combination of arrogant, stupid and terrible legal advice.
I think the bannonites really did believe his alt-right fantasies of how unnecessary and incompetent civil servants are, maybe they should watch yes minister to find out who the smartest guys in the room are.


 
Posted : 18/12/2017 10:47 am
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This didn't go well:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-42360539/matthew-petersen-trump-s-nominee-for-judge-flubs-law-test

Yeah but the senator (?) doing the questioning still voted to confirm him


 
Posted : 18/12/2017 2:13 pm
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But trump has passed no legislation that affects the economy, he inherited a stable economy from Obama and infact in Obama's first year more jobs were created and percentage wise the stock market did better, and all this came from an economy that wasn't in such good shape when he started. So I think you should probably be thanking Obama as Trump hasn't actually done anything and that's probably why the economy is still doing quite well.


 
Posted : 18/12/2017 4:46 pm
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It's the economy stupid and he still managed to lose one of the safest GOP senate seats going, that's quite an achievement.


 
Posted : 18/12/2017 6:32 pm
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Ninfan if people cared about the economy they wouldn't have voted for Brexit.
Plus America's current economy is not the product of anything Trump has done .


 
Posted : 18/12/2017 7:30 pm
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Ninfan if people cared about the economy they wouldn't have voted for Brexit.
Plus America's current economy is not the product of anything Trump has done .

POSTED 22 SECONDS AGO # REPORT-POST

All people who voted for Brexit/Trump care about is their own 'economy' and not wanting to share it with anyone else.

Anyway, on the subject of ninfan......

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Posted : 18/12/2017 7:34 pm
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America's current economy is not the product of anything Trump has done

Must be from all that Narco-terror drug money that Obama secretly funnelled to Hezbollah

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/


 
Posted : 18/12/2017 8:28 pm
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Can we get a better troll for Christmas, I don't get the same zealous intensity from him anymore. Also he's pretty much trying to dig a hole through the Earth to the Moon with a teaspoon so it's kind of lost the entertainment value. President Bawbag.


 
Posted : 18/12/2017 9:10 pm
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"Must be from all that Narco-terror drug money that Obama secretly funnelled to Hezbollah" what has your link got to do with the American economy? Do you believe American economic growth is funded by Hezbollah drug money ?


 
Posted : 18/12/2017 9:17 pm
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Very interesting and disturbing link ninfan
Especially as Trump's now effectively shut down the possibility of further investigation as the article points out

budget cuts and dropped investigations are only a few of many challenges made worse by the passage of nearly a year since Trump took office.


 
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