[Closed] Donald! Trump!

This made me laugh:

No tweets by President Trump made Twitter's list of the year's most retweeted posts.
But three tweets by former President Barack Obama made the list.

I bet that pisses him off 😆

still no tweets from the orange shitnugget?

he must be shitting it that his finances are about to enter the public domain!

On top of that, probably bit worried that the involvement of Rudy Giuliani is gonna unveil all sorts of shit about their shared acquaintance Roy Cohn that they want kept under wraps.

Rupert Murdoch probably has a twitchy sphincter right now too.

Today's national parks announcement is just perfect Trump.

What he said:

"Some people think that the natural resources of Utah should be controlled by a very small group of bureaucrats located in Washington, and guess what? They’re wrong. You know how to protect it and you know best how to conserve this land for many many generations to come."

What's actually happening is they're putting it into the hands of the Bureau of Land Management, also a small group of bureaucrats located in Washington. The people of Utah will have no input on its management. The only major difference for them is that it's no longer protected.

Is he desperate to cause a war? He can’t manage to start one in Asia so he’s stirring up the wasps nest in Israel?

It’s like he’s resigned to not getting a second term, so sticking his oar everywhere, so at least he’s remembered for [i]something[/i] other than being the shittest president ever.

I’ll have 50p that says he’ll try and stir up Ireland/Northern Ireland/IRA once he’s done with Israel

He has a few South American countries to wind up also....

Nah, I reckon he’ll go for much older, historical disputes, fire up the war of the roses, maybe napoleonic wars?

war of the roses, maybe napoleonic wars?

1066.

He'll claim Harold getting shot in the face is #fakenews.

 

Condemn the execution of William Wallace after a Mel Gibson marathon? Guy Fawkes was trying to drain the swamp?

China’s foreign ministry spokesman, Geng Shuang, told a regular news briefing “All parties should do more for the peace and tranquillity of the region, behave cautiously, and avoid impacting the foundation for resolving the long-standing Palestine issue and initiating new hostility in the region,”

when the Chinese sound more diplomatic and statesmanlike then you, you are losing

He'll claim Harold getting shot in the face is #fakenews.

Dunno. If Harold had built a wall to keep those immigrants he would have been fine. Loser. SAD.

"He'll claim Harold getting shot in the face is #fakenews."
From memory there's a pretty good argument to suggest it was fake news , Harold may be the guy next to the one with the arrow in the eye being ridden down by a Norman knight.

Is he desperate to cause a war? He can’t manage to start one in Asia so he’s stirring up the wasps nest in Israel?

I think he's so desperate to be proved right that he's trying to provoke a radical Islamic attack of some form.

Really can't see what this move achieves other than to further alienate Israel and stir up more shit in the middle East

[u]From memory[/u] there's a pretty good argument to suggest...

Exactly how old [i]are[/i] you?

I knew Trump was a complete idiot but this is all just too much! How can anyone be that fundamentally stupid? I can't even explain it by him being a warmonger, he's just beyond incompetent. If he just sat there doing nothing since his inauguration he'd have done a better job.

Because: Oil

Distraction from Russian investigation ?

Even that's not going to go away, maybe he's just a complete tool !

It just seems so inciteful and opposite to world opinion.

Why rock the boat when it's almost ready to tip?

I doubt its for any Machiavellian reason - he just thinks its the right thing to do and won't listen to his diplomats.

To quote Michael Caine:

"Some men just want to watch the World Burn"

go nuts and speak about riots if he comes for a state visit. accept arlene foster with open arms, give her a whack of money and let her have more power than your pm. the mind boggles.

The manager of my local Argos has more power than Theresa May right now tbh

Eh? Trumps siding with the Israelis?

Worst
Nazi
Ever!

Well, he's insulted more world leaders today than he collectively had before today.

Surely to god, the powers that be in the US must see they need to remove this idiot asap...

Meuller must have some proper dirt on him in those bank records !

Maybe he's just so desperate to leave a legacy that he thinks this might work out well 😉

I think he just craves people hollering and whooping and clapping him. There are enough people in America to provide this for him in response to his otherwise inexplicable stupidity. I reckon.

Interesting decision by the Donald.... not sure what he gains from it? Must be some profit in it somewhere I just can't see it?

May be it's the Profit Mohamed?

Did you see that, word play innit

Ninfan's post is actually pretty funny, and it's good to know that the needless destabilisation of the middle east won't just cause misery.

mikey74 - Member
To quote Michael Caine:

"Some men just want to watch the World Burn"

I agree. I think it's that simple.

He doesn't understand the implications of any of his actions.
It's all about his 'place in history'.
It's well documented he has no interest in detail, limited understanding of US history; no interest in international affairs - unless they involve women.
Will he accept responsibility for the fallout which will result from this and for the vapourisation of any peace accord between palestine & israel?
Hmmmm - no; the odious cretin will attempt to take credit for anything positive and deny responsibility for anything negative; as he does with everything he says and does.

Obama ambassador to Israel says it isn't a big deal 🙂

Well everybody else does, what your point there? Is it that Obama was just as bad or that Trump got let off?

It's a terrible idea and is making provoking people.

And for a step by step guide to why it is a problem the ABC has a nice article to read.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-07/why-trump-recognising-jerusalem-as-israels-capital-is-complex/9236268

Eh? Trumps siding with the Israelis?

Worst
Nazi
Ever!

Just so we're all clear on what Trump's Alt right Nazi sympathiser friends think about Israeli

[i]Richard Spencer, one of the leaders of the Charlottesville rally, gave an astonishing example of this, saying “antisemites for Israel” philosophy. “Jews are vastly over-represented in what you would call ‘the establishment’ and white people are being dispossessed from this country,” he said of the US. Yet he continued: “An Israeli citizen, someone who has a sense of nationhood and peoplehood, and the history and experience of the Jewish people, you should respect someone like me who has analogue feelings about whites. You could say I am a white Zionist – in the sense that I care about my people, I want us to have a secure homeland for us and ourselves. Just like you want a secure homeland in Israel.”[/i]

For those not so up to date on the who's who of American Nazi's (and why would you be) Richard Spencer is the man who chanted “Heil Trump” during a Washington rally. His followers responded with the Nazi salute...

Well done to Trump on Israel, he has significant cross party support too. He’s also working on ending funding to Palestinian Authority who divert aid money to pay terrorists. As the UK government said Jerusalem will be the Israeli capital in any two state solution - so why not recognise it now ? It’s been the Jew’s capital for 3000 years. When the Palestinjans are prepared to come to negotiations and end terrorism maybe they’ll get their recognition too. Their experience is clear, the longer they repeat the “Three Nos” the less they get and the further away from their goal they become

Terrorists intent on the destruction of Israel have responded by saying there will be more terrorism. Not a big surpirse there and any real difference at all ? Hamas have been calling for the “third Intifada” for 2 years

Trump a man good to his word and getting the job done

Travel Ban confirmed by Supreme Court
Wall in progress (much more to do)
Significant and transformational tax reform
Obama Care - currently blocked by Republicans who don’t think Trump is radical enough
Recognition of Jerusalem as capital and movement of Embassy (first legislated for under Bill Clinton)

[url= https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-10-24/why-american-evangelicals-are-huge-base-support-israel ]Interesting article here on American Evangelicals and Israel. [/url]

It's conceivable that he (and Kushner?) are just calculating that peace is impossible and the only real endgame is the full displacement of the remaining Palestinians so he may as well get the kudos from his base for backing the Israelis as fully as possible. 😐

Yep he's managed to unite the entire world in condemnation (apart from the Philippines & Czech republic!)
Similarly with his Muslim ban.

It's almost as if he wants to promote division....

Speaking of which how's the wall and have Mexico paid yet?

Trump a man good to his word and getting the job done

Travel Ban confirmed by Supreme Court
Wall in progress (much more to do)
Significant and transformational tax reform
Obama Care - currently blocked by Republicans who don’t think Trump is radical enough
Recognition of Jerusalem as capital and movement of Embassy (first legislated for under Bill Clinton)

On the move and getting other people involved to justif things....

In 1993, former president Bill Clinton also came to office saying he supported 'the principle' of moving the US embassy to Jerusalem

But this wasn't a promise. In 2000, in his last year as president, Mr Clinton told Israeli reporters:

"I have always wanted to move our embassy to west Jerusalem. We have a designated site there. I have not done so because I didn't want to do anything to undermine our ability to help to broker a secure and fair and lasting peace for Israelis and for Palestinians.

Meanwhile the world condemns him
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-07/donald-trump-recognises-jerusalem-as-israels-capital/9234228

We know you are very pro israel and can't acknowledge any thing they do as bad but this is not a one sided problem and it can't be fixed from one side. Until significant pressure is put on israel nothing will change. Pandering to them and rewarding them will not help the situation.

Eh? Trumps siding with the Israelis?

Worst
Nazi
Ever!

😆

And since when has Trump been 'friends' with Richard Spencer?

The black panthers supported Obama so by that measure Obama is a black supremacist 😆 (as well as a race baiter)

Let's hope Trump goes after Venezuela next and we can all watch Corbyn/McDonald go into complete meltdown. Might need a lot of popcorn 😆

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/donald-trump-privilege-questions-284841

😀 since when was either of them a lawyer?

Eh? Trump?
Worst
Ever!

I wonder if his last tweet will read
"Biggest crowd ever for a sentencing hearing"

and on the not wanting to talk about what was said in the meeting, I think the words were if there is nothing to hide then why not just tell us, no smoke without fire or are we still sticking with
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The BBC is starting to get it. Middle East priorities are Iran and from Gulf’s perspective Qatari support of terrorism

As custodians of Islam's holy sites, Jordan and Saudi Arabia have issued warnings that this move could inflame the Muslim world.

But the Arab revolutions have shifted priorities away from the Palestinian cause towards containing Iran, especially among the Gulf states.
For that they have formed a quiet intelligence co-operation with Israel, and need Mr Trump onside.

If the Gulf Arab leaders make a lot of noise over Jerusalem but take no action, it will be further proof of a new Middle East.

Interesting, turns out that this comes within days of The King of Jordan visiting US on a working visit.

http://www.jordantimes.com/news/local/king-heads-us-working-visit

Go figure...