Islam is not a race, being anti Islam doesn't infer racism ...i can convert to Islam tomorrow, does my race change to?If people want to get all shouty and offended because he retweeted anti Islam videos fair enough but let's stop desperately trying to equate a religion to a race in order to make it all seem so much more outrageous
Oh gosh, where to start.....
Trump is a prime example of the flaws in democracy. As with brexit, stupid ignorant people get a vote!
Although trumps election is considerably less justifiable than brexit... And I say that through gritted teeth..
Junkyard - lazarus
I think that is the best view to have as its not even about politics. He is just a petulant man child with odious morals, dubious ethics
Sums him (Trump) up to be honest.
What is there to defend about this man? I don't get it?
Start away....and no I obviously know Britain First are a racist organization and want nothing to do with them.
But I hate the wholesale media, political and celebrity equation with anti Islam sentiment as 'racism'....
....as I said, I can convert to Islam tomorrow, does that change my race?
Obviously not.
Islam is not a race, having a problem with certain aspects of militant Islam like FGM, the testimony of a woman worth half that of a man, general subjugation of women in some predominantly Islam countries, sharia law etc is not racist and I cannot fathom why supposed feminists aren't targeting the more barbaric elements of this religion!?....seems fear of being (wrongly) labeled racist because of criticism of a religion is silencing so many people.
Jews are a race but I can convert to that tomorrow so the reality is race and religion do merge/get conflated . Furthermore the its not a race is generally just an argument used by racists to defend their racism as even they know they cannot openly admit to being racist.
Personally i prefer to view race as a cultural identity and clearly that can change- Islam is one, Jew , Gypsy, Christian etc
Out of interet what term is ok to use for a hate filled islamphobe if not racist?
Must be why there is so little vilification of islam on here and in the press by say high profile leaders of say the USA 🙄seems fear of being (wrongly) labeled racist because of criticism of a religion is silencing so many people.
Facepalm goes here
I would describe myself as being anti militant Islamist.
In other words the religion is fine but I have a problem with the Manchester bomber and the 7/7 killings, I have a problem with subjugation of women, I have a problem with FGM, I have a problem with denying education to women based on religion, I have a problem with sharia law, I have a problem with some of its hostility to homosexuality, I have a problem with Isis trying to create a Muslim caliphate through existing middle east countries using violence etc....it's not an enlightened religion and in so many ways it makes itself a figure for fun.
WHo isnt? The problem is you are trying to defend racist because you object to the same things anyone reasonable objects to
DO you think these are the reasons the Britain first objects to them?
oh and thanks for repeating your view without addressing anything i said 🙄
I have no interest in Britain First, until this week I hadn't heard of them.
But if most right thinking people are as concerned about the shameful things some elements of Islam do then why is the mainstream news not full of it?....why aren't feminists up in arms about the treatment of millions of women under Islam?....could it be they're scared of being called racists?...i think so.
Because Christianity is almost as bad, but when those of us who are sane or the media state that - we get patriotic right thinking bellends getting offended who go on to claim that it's only Christians who are persecuted for their beliefs. It's not fair to criticise one and not the other.
Trump is not racist, Islam is a (bad) life choice and not racial. Jonathan Pie spouting nonsense about skin colour is a incredibly silly.
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Trump is not racist
Yes, thats why he keeps calling Warren Pocahontas, he is also backing somebody facing sex offence charges with minors for election. Morally bankrupt.
I have a problem with radical christian terrorists like the IRA. Am I racist?
Why do people fall into Trumps Twitter traps? Fraser Nelson in the Torygraph has a good article today on how Trump (ab)uses Twitter to his advantage and his opponents fall for it on a daily basis
He may be odious but he has caught the RoW by the short and curlier at the moment. They can’t ignore his posts - a bit like jive and 9/11!!!
I have a problem with radical christian terrorists like the IRA. Am I racist?
Nope. However you are if you stop all people from Northern Ireland coming into your country based on it or you are happy to continually say that all christians are terrorists
I don't really GAS about the definition of racism, but I do know that Trump is legitimising racists and their beliefs, which he should be held to account for.
And today...
[i]"A disgraceful verdict in the Kate Steinle case! No wonder the people of our Country are so angry with Illegal Immigration."[/i]
Blooming trial by jury eh? No need to wonder what evidence the jury saw to reject charges involuntary manslaughter and first-degree murder. The man was clearly [s]Mexican[/s] guilty!
https://news.sky.com/story/mexican-not-guilty-in-kate-steinle-shooting-case-used-by-trump-11150896
Don't really follow all of his blatherings on Twitter ...
I have no interest in Britain First, until this week I hadn't heard of them.
You don't know what he tweeted or who Britain First are, but you still feel qualified to comment? Aaaah STW. 😆
having a problem with certain aspects of militant Islam like FGM
educate yourself;
According to UNICEF: the practice of FGM is mostly limited to central Africa. It’s not common in Morocco or Algeria or Libya or Saudi Arabia or Oman or Jordan or Syria or Iran. Basically, it’s concentrated in a small swath of states in western Africa and another swath of states along the Red Sea. With the exception of a handful of countries, only a small percentage of women who undergo FGM believe the practice is required by religion. Sraph showing which religion most countries practice FGM, note how the "other Christian and Catholic" combined would run Muslim pretty close in most countries.
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Basically, FGM is a practice limited to certain parts of Sub-Saharan Africa—and although it’s more common among Muslims than other religions, Christians are pretty close in most countries. As for Britain, its FGM problem is more due to where their African immigrants come from than it is to Islam per se, and it certainly has no "Extremist Islamic" aspect.
given you said this on the other threadBut if most right thinking people are as concerned about the shameful things some elements of Islam do then why is the mainstream news not full of it?
I assume you wont think its not covered till they are hate filled bigots like yourself not prepared to live next door to someone not like you.I can buy my own space and not have to interact with them[immigrants]
I assume feminists are used to abuse , mainly from those on the right, so the idea that liberal snowflakes stop them speaking out, due to the massive level of fear we generate, is frankly paranoid bollocks and total gibberish..could it be they're scared of being called racists?...i think so.
Only if you are the yardstick by which we measure it - You think he is a bit of a liberal dont you.Trump is not racist
Flynn being charged.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/362744-special-counsel-to-charge-flynn-with-false-statements
No comment about whether or not he's been flipped; I wouldn't bet against it.
that is surely a coincidence that Trump has just spent the last few days firing off contraversial tweets 😆
and hes entered a plea deal to the lesser charge of 'making false statements to the FBI' which means hes struck a deal 😆
no wonder trump has gone extra bonkers crazy this week, he knows flynn has the dirt!
This doesn't make sense. I have it from a very high authority that Flynn is a 'very good person'. 🙂
the person who said that never met this minor official 😉
Scumbag Mnuchin under investigation for either lying about existence of an analysis of the tax proposal or withholding it because he's lied about it's conclusions.
Flynn has said he was instructed to contact russian officials by a trump senior transition team member in 2016.
Per Boston Globe - will post link later.
Getting closer to the odious one.
aye it looks like the truth we have known for some while is about to come out
I suppose his defence now is that Flynn admitted to lying so why believe him now
i wonder if he has a smoking gun to prove anything ?
JUST IN: @BrianRoss on @ABC News Special Report: Michael Flynn promised "full cooperation to the Mueller team" and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians." https://t.co/aiagnvr8eS https://t.co/r8u2LWAd0O
That's hilarious if true,
Trump will be having a massive tantrum then !
+ Sinking deeper into his conspiracy theory/infowars/alt-right alternative reality.
It will be Hilary’s fault
It will be Hilary’s fault 😀
It's going to be great.
its definitely serious as he has not tweeted yet
That's probably because he's bounced his phone off a junior staffers head in anger at flynn turning on him
I suspect the grown ups with law degrees have taken it off him.
This is genius
This is genius
Awaits the follow up - Burning Down the (White) House
What was that Trump said to Comey before he fired him..?
oh yeah, I remember, [i]“I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go,” Comey quoted Trump as saying. “He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.”[/i]
uh huh...
uh huh...
Fake news. Clearly Flynn is a one time volunteer who never had anything to do with his orangeness.
Anyway what about Hillary? Why not investigate her?
Sad
Looking at the latest news that is actually worryingly close.
They are trying "“former Obama administration official" line.
North Korea might get both barrels. trumps running out of dark allys to sulk down.
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Apparently Kushner is the 'senior transition team official' who instructed Flynn, according to (failing) CNN.
And let's remind ourself of this magic moment from the RNC.
I reckon Trump will throw kushner & possibly trump jr? under the bus
Wonder what the Reps are thinking about this, held hostage by their breitbart/tea party base, they have to show loyalty to the orange one, up to what point?
Given the ones that are breaking ranks already some bad mid term polls might force them, if the don't win in alabama it could be a sign
Who will Ivanka stand with?
Obstruction of justice charge on its way for trumpy?
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/us/politics/trump-russia-senate-intel.html?referer=
