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That is all he wants to rail against "lefties" whatever the facts
So, a bit like calling Trump stupid and incompetent despite the facts showing that he won the presidency and defeated ISIS, not only just like he promised, but just like the lefties said would never happen? #MAGA
With fake news and false promises
So, once again, demonstrating that rather than incompetent and stupid [u]as you claimed[/u], he's in fact an incredibly smart and completely competent con-artist 😀 #winning
facts showing that he won the presidency and [b]defeated ISIS[/b]
Trump defeating ISIS, now you're just making stuff up...or were you making a point about fake news/false promises.
What evidence do you have that he has increased job/employment please?
He should probably tweet at ISIS as I don't think they know he's defeated them yet. I should think trump has actually resulted in their numbers growing tbh.
I normally ignore Ninfan's posts, and having read the outright lies he is posting, I shall return to that policy.
[quote=GrahamS ]What evidence do you have that he has increased job/employment please?
extrapolate from the number of people trump has employed since november, ignore the firings. hey presto. employment up. you heard it here first. #fakenews
what I'm intrigued by with ninfan, jambalaya etc is how far the slavish devotion to the right goes.
I'm not particularly left wing, in fact I'd probably term myself as right of centre but I look at Trump (and May) and think to myself WTF is going on. Is this as good as it gets...
So, once again, demonstrating that rather than incompetent and stupid as you claimed
I don't think I have said he is stupid. Only those that follow him.
he's in fact an incredibly smart and completely competent con-artist
The con can only go on for so long.
😆#winning
[quote=GrahamS ]What evidence do you have that he has increased job/employment please?
Is post hoc ergo propter hoc not good enough for you ?
what I'm intrigued by with ninfan, jambalaya etc is how far the slavish devotion to the right goes.
Run out of facts shout leftie...
jam bo - Memberwhat I'm intrigued by with ninfan, jambalaya etc is how far the slavish devotion to the right goes.
All the way to the parallel dimension where Trump has defeated ISIS
Trump defeating ISIS, now you're just making stuff up...or were you making a point about fake news/false promises
Nah, there'll be some schoolboy's homework someplace about how Trump singlehandedly defeated ISIS, built a wall, had Hillary Clinton thrown in jail and saved the world
post hoc ergo propter hoc
I'm not sure if you were being ironical but that phrase is usually used to demonstrate the logical fallacy that a correlation does not necessarily imply causation.
(Or have I conflated Jambalaya and Junkyard again? Many apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick)
I haven't got involved in this thread, but seriously, how can anyone not be amazed at trump's incompetence? The fact that there is an argument puzzles me......
David koresh, jim Jones, Ron Hubbard....all of those convinced a load of borderline remedials that what they were up to was correct too.
I need to step away from the keyboard, as does mr trumpton.
In one thing at least, ninfan is quite correct. Trump is a conman.
Here's an example of his latest attempted con, designed to make people believe that he's actually doing something other than playing golf...
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_598d4a8be4b08a2472737aa2?ir=UK
The curious thing is, ninfan seems to think that Americans finding themselves with a conman for a President is a good thing.
However, in the age of instant communication, his lumbering attempts to maintain the con are falling foul of exposure.
So now we see, as in the above example, that even the cry of "fake news" no longer works.
I'm not sure if you were being ironical but that phrase is usually used to demonstrate the logical fallacy that a correlation does not necessarily imply causation.
"Since event Y followed event X, event Y must have been caused by event X
Just because something happened before an event [ trump elected] it does not mean it is the cause of the other event [ increased employment].
Or have I conflated Jambalaya and Junkyard again?
Its hard to say who is most insulted by that confusion 😉
I like this FB post from Ricky Gervais, today:
Jane just asked if that mud on the sofa was from my trainers, so I quickly tried to start a war with North Korea.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40901746
Although it's just a Trump tweet, and its conditional. By the end of today there will be retractions and qualifiers from all his advisers and negotiators
I'm coming to terms with him now.
He's like that dodgy uncle who,you know will touch up your sister and is probably broke but likes to go on about being chair of the golf club and how kids today are all layabouts.
I think the US has him boxed in now so less of a worry and more just entertainment.
Well if this thread has taught us anything, it's that Ricky Gervais still isn't funny
CountZero
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/china-warns-north-korea-youre-on-your-own-if-you-go-after-the-us/2017/08/11/a01a4396-7e68-11e7-9026-4a0a64977c92_story.html?utm_term=.69ede9e4926a
How times have changed eh, Now it's down to China to sound a note of sensible and grown up caution!
'Locked and loaded' FFS. Nothing like a bit of Vietnam draft-dodging to give you that gung-ho feeling.
Let's hope Donnie Jr and Eric have their heel spurs locked and loaded ready to deploy in case things really kick off.
some interesting stuff on r4, a correspondent was saying he talked to a US military strategist who had seen the plans for war/conflict with NK, apparently a conventional war turns nuclear very quickly to nullify NK bombardment of Seoul.
its all a bit pointlessa conventional war turns nuclear very quickly to nullify NK bombardment of Seoul.
the last thing that the fat one will do is risk his power base and the destruction of his regime
the last thing the orange one will do is fire nukes despite his need to look tough.
I expect another few months of increasingly deranged "diplomacy" with nothing happening at all despite the tough talking.
NK will be wiped out near instantly in any war conventional or otherwise.
Anyone else keeping an eye on the winds and jet streams?
Trumps been watching this :
Scorched Earth...
[url= http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-is-donald-trump-still-so-horribly-witless-about-the-world ]why is donald trump still so horribly witless about the world?[/url]
Ro5ey - Member
Well if this thread has taught us anything, it's that Ricky Gervais still isn't funny
Horses for courses.
I think he's hilarious. Especially when he's taking the piss out of some stupid religion or other.
Anyway - Trump. Eh? Nutter or what?
Ninfan has you all played. I've read quite a bit of the thread and I can't remember where he's actually said he supports trump, he just seems to be playing devils advocate by disagreeing with the majority. No one in their right mind would actually support the orange fool, but he seems to be taking great delight in winding up folks enraged by the POTUS.
Don't get me wrong, he's no DTF but he's done a pretty good job on here for 300+ pages...
NK will be wiped out near instantly in any war conventional or otherwise
Whilst I'm sure this is true, is isnt the biggest issue. With China asking them both to calm down, Germany also on that bandwagon and Japan shifting missle defences around, it's about who else gets involved and what happens next IMO.
The world's a small place. Light that particular fire and it could soon spread very quickly.
Yep what china does is more important
personally I think they like the buffer country between them and the west in South Korea so they would rather the regime prevail
How far they are willing to go to maintain this is the real question
Again i dont think even trump will attack first so it will just be endless posturing from two deranged mad men making ever increasing threats they wont carry out
[quote=Mr Woppit ]
Ro5ey - Member
Well if this thread has taught us anything, it's that Ricky Gervais still isn't funny
Horses for courses.
I think he's hilarious. Especially when he's taking the piss out of some stupid religion or other.
I'm not a fan at all, but he has quite a sharp wit, and the sofa line is pretty good. Not rib cracking hilarious, but then it's not meant to be.
[quote=slowoldman ]why is donald trump still so horribly witless about the world?
He's doing quite well according to that article - it was dated August 4th, and his latest blunder was all the way back on July 25th.
Maybe the writer sent in that article by post.
NK will be wiped out near instantly in any war conventional or otherwise
Really? At the first hint of a strike a nothing to loose red button would decimate the top half of South Korea, it's been well documented that they have a vast amount of bunkers and shielded underground storage for weapons and troops.
NK has a very large conventional military and unless the US is happy to simply bomb them into oblivion with no regard for civilians it will be tough.
Then any remaining nuclear material can just be strapped to anything that flies.
So option B nuke NK - commit mass murder and annihilate civilians and those trapped under a brutal regime. To do that would endanger SK and China on the borders, along with the oceans around.
I can't see a simple and fast solution there.
I'm more inclined to think North Korea is a proxy for China, they like having a "lunatic" state to prod the US and let it know its not welcome in the region without actually having to do it themselves, quite handy I would have thought.
Imagine this whole thing turned around, with China setting up camp on our doorstep with airbases and bombers and whatever pointed our way.
(edit: there is no good start, middle or end to any conflict so best to take donalds phone away for while.)
What a guy....
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How times have changed eh, Now it's down to China to sound a note of sensible and grown up caution!
I know, who'd a thunk it, eh?
personally I think they like the buffer country between them and the west in South Korea so they would rather the regime prevail
That's exactly right, what China [i]doesnt[/i] want is a reunified Korea that's aligned with the US and the West, however, having a raving lunatic in charge isn't exactly helpful either.
Just started watching Games Of Thrones and within the first couple of episodes their have been two clues that Trump is a fan.
First off Jaime Lannister shook the hand of the 'barstard' and sharply pulled his hand towards him, which looked very like what Trump tries to do.
And then there was the Wall as well.
I'm encouraged by news that China has opened the door to there own sanctions with NK. It feels as though they are more on the side of averting an inident as not.
Hope this gives Kim the impression its not just the West or SK who think hes in the wrong...