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Just been looking at his twitter feed again.
In the last day, 9 out of his 17 most recent tweets have been direct retweets of "Fox & Friends".
Does he actually watch anything else? At least he has plenty of time to watch TV on that 17 day vacation that he isn't taking. Between the rounds of golf that he isn't playing obviously.
And great to see him boasting about America's nuclear capability:
[i]"My first order as President was to renovate and modernize our nuclear arsenal. It is now far stronger and more powerful than ever before....
.......Hopefully we will never have to use this power, but there will never be a time that we are not the most powerful nation in the world!"[/i]
-- https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/895252459152711680
Seeing as he didn't even know he had to send people to the DOE after his win I'm not sure how he's managed to renovate anything.
So maybe you can explain how being born into money is a sign of intelligence?
Straw man
Using that money to buy a skyscraper, a plane, and marry a sports illustrated model, become a TV star and then propel yourself into the role of president of the USA despite everyone writing you off as a joke candidate and having, quite literally, less than 2% chance of winning clearly is though 😀
It's often not the having money that proves your intelligence, but what you go on to do with it - compare Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak for example.
Makes perfect sense that some-one who worships Trump and welcomes him as his orangey overlord thinks he's smart.
Which one of the three of us woke up in bed next to a model this morning? most likely before having breakfast cooked by his personal chef, then being flown to the golf course in a helicopter.
According to you it [u]wasn't[/u] the smart one 😆
What are your other definitions of stupid? If being a billionaire, owning a skyscraper, your own jet and marrying a sports illustrated model is 'stupid' then all I can say is bring it on!
All you've listed is being rich.
He was born rich.
Any money he's made he has done so by being a ****.
You don't have to be clever to be a ****.
Any money he's made he has done so by being a *.
You don't have to be clever to be a *.
How many people have successfully become US president despite being all the below:
i) Stupid
ii) Unpopular
iii) Crazy
iv) Dishonest
V) Any colour other than white
Fake tan is not a new ethnicity.
I'm off to the pub.
Feel free to put whatever solvents you're inhaling down and join me. 🙂
Haha
Which one of the three of us woke up in bed next to a model this morning?
Ninfan is fixated on this
I woke up this morning next to a woman who actually loves me though, shes a hottie too, so I win !
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She even likes to hold my hand
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So maybe you can explain how being born into money is a sign of intelligence?Straw man
That'll be no then? Still, at least you're having fun listing the things Trumpy's been spending Daddy's money on. How about freshening it up a bit? You can always add Trump Shuttle, Trump University, Trump Taj Mahal to your list.
How many people have successfully become US president despite being all the below:i) Stupid
ii) Unpopular
iii) Crazy
iv) Dishonest
V) Any colour other than white
Some might say a significant number, after all, Obama became president despite being a colour other than white, not very popular among a significant proportion of the population, Tricky Dicky became president while being pretty much all of the above, except the last...
How many people have successfully become US president despite being all the below:i) Stupid
ii) Unpopular
iii) Crazy
iv) Dishonest
V) Any colour other than white
You could justifiably argue Trump is every one of those things.
you sure she is not with you JUST for your money 😉I woke up this morning next to a woman who actually loves me though, shes a hottie too, so I win !
There is no way she is with Trump if he is poor. IMHO. Personally I would not want to wake up next to someone like that however appealing to the eye they may or may not be
YMMV
You could justifiably argue Trump is every one of those things.
I think that was ninfan's point: Trump can't be stupid and crazy because he managed to become president despite being stupid and crazy.
What was that catch again Yossarian?
Have I missed something? Has someone found the key to the Troll Box,and let them out again? Ah,bless,it's all they know.
To be honest Closing Time seems a more appropriate book title to sum up Trump.
Trump is just another pawn. Some very clever people got a stupid rich man elected by manipulating stupid poor people to think he was somehow on their side.
Trump is just another pawn. Some very clever people got a stupid rich man elected by manipulating stupid poor people to think he was somehow on their side.
Which would have been so very different from another Clinton winning, of course...
Of course, on the subject of truth, lying and misleading the American public, what do we have as an example!
Carl Sagan, 1996:
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Which would have been so very different from another Clinton winning, of course...
In some respects I agree, trump won because Clinton was such a poor opposition.
But are you genuinely suggesting that trump is demonstrating himself to be rational, balanced and competent?
Or just trolling.
Donald Trump’s flagship hotel in the nation’s capital has received more than $270,000 in payments from a lobbying firm tried to Saudi Arabia, as the country seeks to overturn a US anti-terrorism law.
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Seeing as he didn't even know he had to send people to the DOE after his win I'm not sure how he's managed to renovate anything.
Not to mention that "renovating" a nuclear program isn't entirely a 6 month job, no matter how much resource you throw at it. Most large scale defense programs take 3, 5, 10 or even 20 years to complete, especially ones involving nuclear weapons......
always this though if we were all right wing he would be a lefty he does not care he just wants a reaction and he does not believe much of what he posts and he is not that dumb either.Or just trolling
Shame really as he does, unlike chewkw, actually bring something to the table when he, increasingly rarely, tries to debate like a grown up
Nah, if he did/does make a pre-emptive strike I think it would be with conventional weapons. Good ol' shock and awe.
Get with it - 'Shock and awe' is now "fire and fury". Very definitely unconventional weapons, more the realm of wizardry and pyromancy. He's going to conjurer up Napalm Honey Badgers.
Come on then junky - let's debate then. There's no debate here, it's just people calling Trump stupid because they don't like him, and it makes them feel better
"Trump is stupid"
Ok, how exactly?
"Well, because he says stupid things"
But didn't saying stupid things get him elected president?
"Well yeah, but he manipulated millions of stupid people to vote for him"
Ok, so how exactly is it stupid to manipulate millions of people to vote for you by saying stupid things? Surely doing that is the opposite of stupid, in fact it's really quite clever.
"Yeah, but he's really unpopular, because he's stupid"
Right, so is successfully getting elected *despite* being really unpopular, something that a stupid person could achieve, or something that is so ridiculously impossible that only a genius could pull it off?
"Yeah, but, he inherited his money"
But there's plenty of other rich people who are really smart and didn't become president, plus he still got elected, despite being really unpopular, and spending less than his opponent, how is that something a stupid person could achieve, and if it was, how come a clever person didn't figure out a way to do it?
"Yeah, well, Trump is stupid"
How exactly?
Who got him elected ?
Trump's not the smart one
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So, ninfan. How would you describe trump.
not added to this thread, and wont be reading it. so i hope nobody as said what i am thinking now.
JFK was a good man, a fair man or so we are told. he was murdered.
i think Trump could end up going the same way, killed by the same organisation.
Come on then junky - let's debate then. There's no debate here, it's just people calling Trump stupid because they don't like him, and it makes them feel better"Trump is stupid"
Ok, how exactly?
"Well, because he says stupid things"
But didn't saying stupid things get him elected president?
"Well yeah, but he manipulated millions of stupid people to vote for him"
Ok, so how exactly is it stupid to manipulate millions of people to vote for you by saying stupid things? Surely doing that is the opposite of stupid, in fact it's really quite clever.
"Yeah, but he's really unpopular, because he's stupid"
Right, so is successfully getting elected *despite* being really unpopular, something that a stupid person could achieve, or something that is so ridiculously impossible that only a genius could pull it off?
"Yeah, but, he inherited his money"
But there's plenty of other rich people who are really smart and didn't become president, plus he still got elected, despite being really unpopular, and spending less than his opponent, how is that something a stupid person could achieve, and if it was, how come a clever person didn't figure out a way to do it?
"Yeah, well, Trump is stupid"
How exactly?
Trump lacks vision, the only way to secure the future of humanity is to forge alliances, so we all work together and not burn bridges. History teaches this, the EU has taught us this.
How many threats of war have been sabre rattled since WWII within Europe?
How can I go over to Germany and drink beer without getting killed after World War 2? Because we've all realised and leaned from past mistakes, and we don't hold an entire nation accountable forever more because of one rogue government.
The Boris Johnson defence ninfan?
It is [i]possible[/i] that Trump is a genius manipulator that is incredibly articulate, but he fakes having the vocabulary limit of an eight year old to make him seem more relatable to the electorate.
It is [i]possible[/i] that his every move is carefully considered like a chess grand master and that appearing to be knee-jerk responses to whatever Fox & Friends report is all part of the plan.
It is [i]possible[/i] that he is a master orchestrator and appearing to have an administration in a shambles is a cunning ruse.
It is [i]possible[/i] that he is incredibly mature and sober and just fakes the vain thin skinned manbaby Twitter rants and playground insults to win over voters.
But I don't think so.
Come on then junky - let's debate then. There's no debate here, it's just people calling Trump stupid because they don't like him, and it makes them feel better
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Hello Ninfan! Welcome back - nice holiday? With the post count rising I guessed someone was in the firing line but assumed it was jambas! But no, he's just being abused on another thread!
It's raining hard don't you know!!!
What was your ban for again THM?
All that shows is that folk with outlandish views get challenged.
Ninfan Graham had a go at rational, he even tries with chewkw, lets see how this pans out with your reply.
Cannot wait to see.
But I don't think so.
But then you didn't think he was going to get elected, either, so how can you (we?) place any trust in your skills to rationally and accurately analyse the evidence?
Whatever anyone thinks about the Donald, the response is not to simply abuse but to attempt to understand why someone who is clearly ill-qualified for the role, sits in the White House. DItto Brexsit. Failure to get to the bottom of this, dooms us to repeat the mistakes.
Agreed and it would be a better debate than the noise of this.
Ninfan the evidence that we had at the time said he was not going to get elected so it was the rational and accurate position at the time to think this.
Clearly it was wrong but there was little reason to think the man behind in the polls was going to win.It was not the rational view post the result but it was pre the result. See also our recent election or indeed brexit.
Rumour has it not even Trump expected this 😉
Your "argument" is also the genetic fallacy.
Ninfan the evidence that we had at the time said he was not going to get elected so it was the rational and accurate position at the time to think this.Clearly it was wrong
The evidence wasn't wrong, your and Grahams analysis of the evidence was wrong. Other people (Me, Jamba, Chewy, Farage) all analysed the same evidence and came to a different (correct) conclusion.
So, the question is that if 'you lot' managed to get it so wrong last time (when we got it right) what have you got to explain/justify/engender trust in your analysis this time?
You're like the bloke down the betting office who has just lost his wages betting on two losers, who now wants to borrow a tenner off us because the next horse is 'a dead cert'. All the evidence suggests that he wouldn't be able to identify a dead cert if it ran up and kissed him, so why should we believe he's right this time?
So you were right. Congratulations.
Do you actually think trump is doing a good job or are you only interested in telling people you were right and they weren't?
So, the question is that if 'you lot' managed to get it so wrong last time (when we got it right)
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If we are all as reliable as our latest predictions, then 'your lots' Tory landslide & obliteration of Corbyn...
Obvs shows whos the smart ones here
Do you actually think trump is doing a good job
Are you actually interested wherher he's doing a good job, or in just shouting "stoooopid" because it makes you feel better?
Oh, go on, why not hit us with a poll that says his approval rates are really poor, from the same polling companies that accurately predicted him losing the election... oh.
then 'your lots' Tory landslide & obliteration of Corbyn...
Odd, I seem to remember saying that Jezza stood no chance of winning the election (he didn't) but that a majority of less than about 60 would be a disaster for Theresa (it was) however I also said from the start (ie. back when Cameron resigned) that the party should elect Rees-Mogg or Wee Ruthie as leader (they should have)
No, I'm interested in whether you think he is doing a good job.
But you seem to be trying to sidestep that
I'm interested and therefore concerned that he is doing a very bad job with N Korea.
Using inflammatory rhetoric without the ability to back it up is a very, very stupid thing to so. THe Us has not even vaguely prepared itself for a strike so empty threat simply make you look impotent - who knows perhaps that is appropriate.
It's 30 years since I studied any foreign policy and strategic studies. But you don't forget basic lessons, unless that is you are POTUS...
It's ok Thm, the White House has issued a statement, ( thru tillerson) to say not to pay attention to what Trump said, they obvs think he's stuff too 😉
It will be interesting to see if our gutless self serving prime minister has anything to say about the situation.
Given the gravity of the global conversation, the strong and stable head of the UK should be making a statement to reassure the public.
The is Trump an idiot question... The other option is he is a cheap troll who just wants attention.
Frankly the evidence is stacking up
Poor judgement on hiring people
Inability to work out a pr strategy to make problems go away - try and find when gwb mentioned his winning majority against Al gore.
Completely disregard for Congress and Senate when it comes to passing legislation
Inability to weather any kind of criticism.
That is just the start.
Polls being out once or twice doesn't invalidate them, again the methodology is sound and approvals have been used for years. It's a comparable number and complete believable if you look at events and news. He is managing to offend people who supported him, failing to deliver to those who voted for him and going against what some believe in.
The only fake news is coming from the white house
The only fake news is coming from the white house
When did JK Rowling start working for the White House then?