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That article is deeply worrying.
An analogy would be: Trump and his team get on-board Airforce one and once it's airborne someone heads up to the cockpit and asks the crew who they voted for. The response is that they all voted for Hilary. At this point they are handed parachutes and told to get off the plane. Trump then turns round and asks "So does anyone know how to fly a plane?" There's no response.
I wonder how the Arya Stark line will got at us immigration next week
seen the bunch of vets who are now trans, some from the very nasty end of the military all want to chat with donald...
This would be an interesting conversation ...
http://uk.businessinsider.com/kristin-beck-trump-transgender-ban-2017-7?r=US&IR=T
[quote=whitestone ]An analogy would be: Trump and his team get on-board Airforce one and once it's airborne someone heads up to the cockpit and asks the crew who they voted for. The response is that they all voted for Hilary. At this point they are handed parachutes and told to get off the plane. Trump then turns round and asks "So does anyone know how to fly a plane?" There's no response.
nah - Trump has a bloke who doesn't believe in aeroplanes ready to fly it.
Last Leg just reported that Trump has fired Priebus
Just like Scaramucci said he would.
...
I know! Just saw that!
Replaced with General John Kelly, not Donald Trump as per Last Leg 🙂
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40759132
Nothing posted on that twitter account seems legit
aracer - Member
Nothing posted on that twitter account seems legit
Good point. Well made.
wonder when they'll start choosing competence over patriotism?
I would like to thank Reince Priebus for his service and dedication to his country. We accomplished a lot together and I am proud of him!
Zero legislation passed in 6 months, wonder what low achievement is
He achieved less as chief of staff in 2017 than Leo McGarry, and Leo McGarry is imaginary, and imaginarily dead, and also real world dead.
On the other hand, Singletrackworld has passed the same amount of legislation as this presidency, yay us!
[url= http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/344402-long-island-police-department-responds-to-trump-we-dont ]Police department tells Trump 'As a department, we do not and will not tolerate roughing up of prisoners.'[/url]
But what does Past Donald Trump think about changing chiefs of staff?
You know how people say they're their own worst critic? Here it'd be true if it weren't for all the people that literally want to assasinate him
Reminds me of dead ringers.
Sean Sean Sean.... There is somebody pretending to be me tweeting bad things about me....
Petulant
[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-alaska-us-senator-obamacare-repeal-bill-healthcare-republican-vote-lisa-murkowski-a7862341.html ]Trump set to punish Alaska[/url]
Presumably he's now not going to give permits to drill in the ANWR - every cloud
http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/25/investing/alaska-arctic-oil-drilling-trump-anwr/index.html
Here's a nice depressing read about what's happening to the actual machinery of government..
**** me sideways! 😯
I've just spent the last hour or so reading the whole of that article, and it's one of the most terrifying things I've read in God knows how long.
There are global consequences involved, and the overgrown toddler 'running' the country just sticks his fingers in his ears and goes "lalalalalalalalalala..."
Someone, just impeach the sonofabitch now, for the sake of the civilised world.
Can you summarise it for us?
Summary?
The Trump teams going in into departments and agencies have no clue, don't want to listen and probably just want to get rid of the leftie/snowflakes/scientists/thinkers before they start complaining about the idiotic ideas being put forward.
Totally unfit and unprepared for the task of running a government, underprepared and unwilling to accept help from outside of the circle.
Zero real understanding of what a government actually does and why it's needed.
See my post about Air Force one.
Basically none of the Trump camp have security clearance to take over the running of the DOE. The policies they want to put in place ignore practicalities like nuclear inspection and safety. Budgets being cut, or proposed in safety, investment, research.
They are wilfully ignorant of what is required, i.e. it's not just that they don't know, they don't [b]want[/b] to know as that knowledge will expose their ignorance. Those approaching the DOE didn't want to know about how to run it but wanted to know the names of members of staff who were supporters of policies the Trump camp disagreed with.
It's definitely worth reading. In fact make the time to read it.
Be afraid, very afraid.
summary?
in the states a change of administration means a change in a lot of the civil servants (unlike here where it's just ministers and a handful of special advisors who leave and a new bunch come in. So in the US the months between the election outcome and inaurguration of a new pres are crucial for the new team to get up to speed, and learn how the system works. Much of what government does is not that political but can be pretty technical - combating the spead of zika virus say, or securing supplies of nulear materials.
So in the energy dept they'd cleared office space for the new senior team, to ensure a smooth transition. And no one came...
That Vanity Fair article is a depressing read. Who knew the DOE could be so hard?
The thing missing from summaries above is that the Trumpettes dont want to speak to the career civil servants because, obviously they cant be trusted and therefore they have no direction hence nothing is getting done.... And nuclear safety (amongst other things) is at risk...
The handover is always problematic but Trumpettes either haven't sufficient security clearance or don't turn up. And don't ask questions If they do...
Can you summarise it for us?
As Trump might say...
That VF article is fairly damning - appears they're hell-bent on 'draining the swamp' including the closure of Government departments they have no clue actually what they do - things like nuclear safety!
And yet, people just seem to be letting it happen, ridiculous! I'm not sure why this isn't headline news rather than a vanity fair article.
Last Leg just reported that Trump has fired Priebus
Surely there must be a finite supply of arseholes. There seem to be no jobs on offer, just a turn to take at being blamed for something, slandered and then fired.
Maybe this whole thing is really a conspiracy to bankrupt SNL by exhausting their costume and wig budget.
And yet, people just seem to be letting it happen, ridiculous! I'm not sure why this isn't headline news rather than a vanity fair article.
Headline news is restricted by space and time. There isn't room in the news for all this shit, news papers don't have enough pages and news bulletins don't have enough time.
Scaramucci's wife divorcing him over his naked ambition to be in trumps government. Wtf he must have been a bastard before but this is too much.
[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world-0/anthony-scaramucci-deirdre-ball-donald-trump-latest-divorce-ambition-a7866626.html ]see ya[/url]
I wonder how many Americans realise just how much Trump has cost them personally in security and travel:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/344369-guarding-trumps-mar-a-lago-club-has-cost-taxpayers-66-million-report
That link is slightly misleading, it's $6.6million, not $66million, but even so, Trump is costing the US Coastguard a huge amount of money, when it's over a billion dollars behind in funding.
Now, if only he'd go for a stroll one dark night and stumble across a large 'gator... 😈
I do wonder if there was a lot of threats of resignations if he stayed in post.
Utter chaos, it's cringeworthy just to watch.
I suspect the bannon sucking his own cock comment was probably a big factor
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You couldn't make it up-
Outgoing White House press secretary Spicer confirmed Scaramucci's departure in a statement on Monday afternoon."Anthony Scaramucci will be leaving his role as White House Communications Director," Spicer said. "Mr. Scaramucci felt it was best to give Chief of Staff John Kelly a clean slate and the ability to build his own team. We wish him all the best."
Spicer still around- there's now a leavers queue. 😆 😆
Spicer still around- there's now a leavers queue. 😆
Nah, working his notice, he wants a good reference...
I love that Trump is tarnishing the reputation of every rightwing scumbag that latches onto him
The question is does the sacking of Scaramucci delight the media or the opponents? 😆
Nope, the question is how much governmental functionality remains in the WH.
The US appears to be flying on autopilot. Which to be fair is sound testament to some robust bureaucratic institutions operating in the face of such top level incompetence.
Chewkw - member
The question is does the sacking of Scaramucci delight the media or the opponents?
Trump down to 39% for the first time with that Trump-favouring Rasmussen poll:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jul31
EDIT: Wait, what, he really [b]has[/b] been sacked? I thought that was just a joke from a combination of Newsthump and Chewkw, but no, it really does seem to be true. 😯
Do you foresee a collapse of govt like in Iraq or the middle east or are people over exaggerating? 😀piemonster - Member
Nope, the question is how much governmental functionality remains in the WH.
You have just contradicted your first point don't you think so with robust bureaucracy? That's the problem innit. The system now challenges (refuse to change as in all entrench bureaucracy) the democratic leadership. Nobody elect the system but the system is trying to dictate to the people. A bit like the "rise of the machine" (The Terminator) innit.The US appears to be flying on autopilot. Which to be fair is sound testament to some robust bureaucratic institutions operating in the face of such top level incompetence.
oldnpastit - Member
Chewkw - member
The question is does the sacking of Scaramucci delight the media or the opponents?Trump down to 39% for the first time with that Trump-favouring Rasmussen poll:
39% what does that mean? Media and opponents' delight? 😛
Outgoing White House press secretary Spicer confirmed Scaramucci's departure in a statement on Monday afternoon."Anthony Scaramucci will be leaving his role as White House Communications Director," Spicer said. "Mr. Scaramucci felt it was best to give Chief of Staff John Kelly a clean slate and the ability to build his own team. We wish him all the best."
Hilarious if true, unfortunately The Guardian is reporting Huckabee-Sanders said that.