It's also a fact that Trump said that he would put in place a muslim ban.
No it isn't, and no he didn't!
Sorry to disappoint you but he did.
[url= https://www.rt.com/usa/325046-trump-muslim-ban-usa/ ]Trump muslim ban[/url]
And if that isn't convincing enough, [url= https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration ]here it is from his own website[/url].
It may be that no one quote from Trump or any of his advisers sufficiently proves the point, [u]but...[/u]
All together now - if ifs and ands were pots and pans...
? Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump called Monday for barring all Muslims from entering the United States."Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," a campaign press release said.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/
And if that isn't convincing enough, here it is from his own website.
Enough of this #fakenews!
If ninfan says he didn't, he didn't, despite what Trumps own website states! 😀
All together now - if ifs and ands were pots and pans...
What's the link to the underlined "but"?
I think next we go to written statement is not saying it...
Sure looks and sounds a lot like him?
but maybe it was a lookalike?
Sorry to disappoint you but he did.And if that isn't convincing enough, here it is from his own website.
Right, now go and pick out the exact quote where he [u]said that he would put in place[/u] a muslim ban.
You see, you made the mistake of reading what the media said he said, rather than what was actually said, didn't you...
This is good enough for me.
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/dec/08/donald-trump-calls-for-complete-ban-on-muslims-entering-the-us-video ]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/dec/08/donald-trump-calls-for-complete-ban-on-muslims-entering-the-us-video[/url]
The media as in his own press office? If you'd read [i]and understood[/i] what was written on his own campaign site then you'd see that he [b]did[/b] call for a ban.
"Donald J Trump is calling for a complete and total shutdown on Muslims entering the United States"
Yep, I reckon that just about covers it! Lol 🙂
Ps, for the more media gullible puppets amongst you who havent cottoned on yet
"Is calling for" ? "said he would put in place"
ninfan are you having another reality wobble?
Is that the level we're at now?
FFS.
so your saying his campaign promises can't be relied on?
"Is calling for" ? "said he would put in place"
Whaaaaaat?!?!?!?!?!
I am calling for ninfan to be recognised as being a complete and utter idiot.
That's unfair to idiots 😆
"Is calling for" ? "said he would put in place"
But the smart people recognise that the person who is calling for a ban is unlikely to dilute that desire too much when it comes to implimentation. Leopards tend not to change their spots and he was voted in on this promise, he'd lose a lot support if he were to renage on that promise.
(Checks all i and ts are dotted and crossed for fear that ninfan will pick up on it, inspite of him not knowing the difference between if, and and but).
Ps, for the more media gullible puppets amongst you who havent cottoned on yet"Is calling for" ? "said he would put in place"
FFS
ninfan: "but..." is that where you stopped reading?
"Even if the government were to try to pick apart ambiguities in each individual statement, [b]there’s no question that all of the statements together prove discriminatory intent[/b]." Direct quote from a Senior Lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union.
If all you intended was a semantics nit-pick, devoid of actual meaning, then carry on.
Ah, the sweet sound of cognitive dissonance as it hits home on the self appointed intelligentsia that they were manipulated by the media
Ah, the sweet sound of cognitive dissonance as it hits home on the self appointed intelligentsia that they were manipulated by the media
There's no need to be so hard on yourself.
ninfan, yesterday
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This:
Ah, the sweet sound of cognitive dissonance as it hits home on the self appointed intelligentsia that they were manipulated by the media
Reminds me of [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/phycisists-what-on-earth-is-this-guy-talking-about-is-it-voodoo-science ]this[/url]:
Direct quote from a Senior Lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union.
Oh, a lawyer said it, well, it must be true then 😆
Now, back on track lets look back at the actual allegation made:
It's also a fact that Trump said that he would put in place a muslim ban.
When we look at the evidence, there are the following options open:
i) Trump said said that he would put in place a muslim ban (so far nobody has yet provided any evidence of him [u]actually[/u] saying this)
ii) Trump said that he was "calling for" but didn't actually say that he would put in place a muslim ban
iii) Trump said that he was "calling for" and thereby [i]inferred[/i] he would put in place a muslim ban, although without actually saying it
iv) Trump said that he was "calling for" a muslim ban, and this was widely interpreted by third parties as indicating that he would put in place a muslim ban, although he never directly said that he would
Either way, you all got played for a bunch of mugs, and he won the election 😆
You ok, hun?
Either way, you all got played for a bunch of mugs, and he won the election 😆
You're actually quite sad, aren't you?
v) it was quite clear what he was saying and now he and his supporters are weasel-wording away from it because it's a/ illegal and b/ immoral
but you're right he won, 'fair and square' on a manifesto of 'alternate facts'. Sorry, but that doesn't sit right any more than the truth does.
[s]don't know why I'm doing this.
ninfan. what is your actual point? You last post was like a trump tweet bashing the media and fake news, but with longer words.
Do you think that Trump's travel restriction order is non-discriminatory to muslims? That it has no relation in motive to the restrictions he was saying before the election should be put in place?[/s]
posts crossed
You're actually quite sad, aren't you?
Donald Trump being elected president upsets the very people I like to see upset, I guarantee you that that leaves me [i]far[/i] from sad 😀
Do you think that Trump's travel restriction order is non-discriminatory to muslims?
Yes, since over 85% of the worlds muslims are entirely unaffected by the restrictions
That's a stretch even for you ninfan. At least it cements the opinion that you don't believe what you're writing and are just trolling.
Why was the original travel restriction order deemed by a court of appeal in California to be unconstitutional?
ninfan = chewy with a dictionary
Donald Trump being elected president upsets the very people I like to see upset, I guarantee you that that leaves me far from saD
This is one of Trump's best qualities. His election also provides ample opportunity to see how the left responds when they end up on the losing side in a democratic process, face masks, violence, vandalism.
"Is calling for" ? "said he would put in place"
Wow! Is that really your defence?
He was "calling for" someone else to do it, but he didn't mean he'd do it if he was president?
It's not Simon Says ffs.
Either way, you all got played for a bunch of mugs, and he won the election
Ummm... seems to me that if he didn't really mean what he said about a Muslim Ban then it was the people who voted for him in support of that policy that were played for mugs.
Donald Trump being elected president upsets the very people I like to see upset, I guarantee you that that leaves me far from saDThis is one of Trump's best qualities. His election also provides ample opportunity to see how the left responds when they end up on the losing side in a democratic process, face masks, violence, vandalism.
Its also excellent for shining a light on the alt-right
His election also provides ample opportunity to see how the left responds when they end up on the losing side in a democratic process, face masks, violence, vandalism.
Something you'd never see those nice short-haired chaps on the far right do 🙄
Agreed kimbers.
Right i'm calling for Ninfan to be banned permanently from this entire forum. Can we take a vote on that? If the majority ask for him to be banned, then we action that ok?
I'm all for letting imbeciles have a nice little play with us grown ups, but tbh, i think there's a limit don't you? This thread should be about proper grown up discussion, not winning points or pointless playground arguing, although there is a somewhat delicious irony in the fact this thread exactly mirrors Trump and his team themselves!
*note i said "calling for" which therefore means i don't actually want that to happen.......
ninfan
Donald Trump being elected president upsets the very people I like to see upset
You like to see people upset?
Right i'm calling for Ninfan to be banned permanently from this entire forum.
Its far easier to ignore dicks than allowing yourself to get drawn into utterly pointless forum led arguments, much like real life interactions if i consider someone to be a dick then i merely ignore them.
[quote=theotherjonv ]Is that the level we're at now?
It's the level we're always at with ninfan - pedantic is his middle name.
