Have I missed something?
I don't think being called a "leftie" is even an insult?
I sure as hell prefer to be a bleeding heart "leftie" than an alt right supporter any day.
Leftie and proud. 🙂
Some of you need to have a word with yourself for engaging with him though
I know, It's like he's given up really...
I think it does just highlight how hard it is to defend the orange idiot these days.
ninfan - MemberRequired multiple attempts, at huge cost, resulting in a partial but incomplete tactical success from which the damage was repaired in a few weeks and ultimately made no significant strategic difference to the outcome of the war?
It's a metaphor, not a history lesson, you halfwit.
I wonder if The Creepy Loudmouth would find this interesting...
[url= https://m.xkcd.com/1732/ ]Bit warm lately.[/url]
Made i larf:
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Bush's immediate reaction to being told about 9/11 has been used as a good example of taking a couple of minutes to sit and consider what to do in an extraordinary situation rather than leap up and run about in a panic.
The blank expression denotes all available resources being deployed to prevent swears in front of the kids.
Nah, he's just trying to remember what [i]"Operation FauxFlagTowers"[/i] was.
ninfan - Member
Made i larf:
Thanks nincompoopfan, I'm sure someone will alert [s]the media[/s] Breitfart of your shattering experience.
I see Sarah Sanders' irony bypass operation was a complete success:
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https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/943224870149742592
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So trump's approval rating of 35% is 14% lower than the next lowest figure at this point in a presidency. Guess he must be doing something right.... 😯
Nice to see a professional woman still doing her own ironing. ..
More 'Bad People doing Bad Things' from the world of Trump.
[url] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/20/us-take-names-united-nations-vote-to-reject-jerusalem-recognition [/url]
I think an apt response from a country voting against Trump would be:
"We are a sovereign country just the same as you and history will judge who was right in this matter - hint, it wont be you".
Dreadful stuff from an administration that thinks applying Gold Rush era capitalism to the entire modern world is a workable and desirable model.
So trump's approval rating of 35% is 14% lower than the next lowest figure at this point in a presidency. Guess he must be doing something [b]right...[/b]
I see what you did there.
It's a truism of American political journalism that no president can stay in the job long if he/she polls less than 30% approval. I don't doubt for a second in the brave new world they're in at the moment that Trump will plough on, but it will be interesting if nothing else.
Nice to see a professional woman still doing her own ironing. ..
Not sure in what sense 'professional' applies here. Being more professional than the Mooch is not an automatic qualifier.
I miss the Mooch.
It's a truism of American political journalism that no president can stay in the job long if he/she polls less than 30% approval.
Because all the other eternal truisms of US politics have been so incredibly effective at predicting Trump’s ascent to the presidency...
You're at least predicable ninny, eh?
Because all the other eternal truisms of US politics have been so incredibly effective at predicting Trump’s ascent to the presidency...
Some of them seem to be prescient, TBH.
The problem with political jokes is they get elected. ~ Henry Cate.We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. ~ Aesop
Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river. ~ Nikita Khrushchev
When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it. ~ Clarence Darrow
Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other. ~ Oscar Ameringer
Then there's the one about not overestimating the intelligence of the electorate.
Seems Trump is still saying this tax reform is going to cost him money, but we can't check that because his tax returns are still being audited. A lie to cover a lie.
More 'Bad People doing Bad Things' from the world of Trump.I think an apt response from a country voting against Trump would be:
"We are a sovereign country just the same as you and history will judge who was right in this matter - hint, it wont be you".
Dreadful stuff from an administration that thinks applying Gold Rush era capitalism to the entire modern world is a workable and desirable model.
Looks like his answer is to be a even bigger pr*k than he already is.
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/20/donald-trump-threat-cut-aid-un-jerusalem-vote ]Donald Trump threatens to cut aid to countries over UN Jerusalem vote[/url]
Looks like his answer is to be a even bigger pr*k than he already is.
Donald Trump threatens to cut aid to countries over UN Jerusalem vote
Covers two issues. Strengthens US isolationism, which Trump appears to be in favour of, and reduces spending to offset the reduced income from lower taxation. He's a moron.
It's fundamentally blackmail isn't it? His hands must be incredibly dense given how small they are. Plays to the peanut gallery I guess.
So The Human Slimebag seeks to muscle other countries into his schemes by blackmailing them.
If he carries out his promise, sit back and watch China take advantage and step into the gap, leveraging more global influence for itself.
What a complete pillock.
He clearly has absolutely no understanding of global politics or diplomacy. He's out of his depth.
Plays to the peanut gallery I guess.
Yeah my thoughts exactly. Goes over very well with the [i]"'Mer-i-cah **** yeah"[/i] crowd who believe that "diplomacy" is just snowflake liberal political correctness.
He's out of his depth.
I think he just doesn't GAS.
He revels in that disruption. Saying and doing things that shouldn't really be said or done has got him a long way.
Well the US has been bribing countries with aid for decades, so no change there!
I think he just doesn't GAS.
Yup,a vile human at the end of his years, spoiled and damaged in equal measure from a young age, he only cares about himself. A knobclanger of spectacular proportions that has bullied and conned his way through life and now he is taking the greedy and desperate people of America for ride.
Gord [s]Bless[/s] save America
He clearly has absolutely no understanding of global politics or diplomacy. He's out of his depth.
I think you have to think in terms of the audience that his decisions are aimed at. The Jerusalem one in particular was largely about Trumps attempts to make sure the evangelical right came out to support Roy Moore, it was timed for that election, and it was aimed at a right wing conservative audience who hold that this is as a biblical prophesy.
How it plays internationally is secondary to both Trump and to the Evangelical right.
This next pronouncement is the same, it plays well with an audience who are (rightly or wrongly) fed up with seeing their tax dollars go to fund 3rd world countries who then produce terrorists who want to kill Americans (as they see it). This will be broadly popular amongst those folk.
he is taking the greedy and desperate people of America for ride.
Actually they took themselves for a ride
.....that’s the art of the con, letting people’s greed or desperation do the work for you.
Probably going down in history as greatest con man ever, he stole a nation.
Part of the problem with "draining the swamp" is that the Trump administration doesn't really have any experienced diplomatic negotiators. This has resulted in other nations knowing how to play them and get what they rather than the USA want. His "America first" policy may well up being "America last".
Diplomacy is the art of persuading other people to get what you want.
It wouldn't surprise me if the "Jerusalem is the Israeli capital" idea came from meetings between Israeli diplomats looking to manipulate US foreign policy (at the right time) and lower ranked officials in the Trump administration and it percolated upwards. Trump announces the new policy, Israel feigns a look of pleasant surprise.
His "America first" policy may well up being "America last".
More likely 2nd last. There's one country with an incompetent leader so desperately looking for a replacement trade deal that it'll accept any old sh*t to look like it's making a success of baling out of it's existing trade deal
At least he's got a legislative win!
Tho amusingly this one isn't popular with his base, as it's blatantly a tax bonanza for the rich, including himself, who's set to be ~$15m better off !
including himself, who's set to be ~$15m better off !
Probably just enough to make him solvent 😆
nickc
it plays well with an audience who are (rightly or wrongly) fed up with seeing their tax dollars go to fund 3rd world countries who then produce terrorists who want to kill Americans
And yet they are still doing stupid things like saying "we will de-nuclearise (is that even a word?) North Korea even if they don't want us too"
Pretty sure just that is going to result in thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of American deaths (and maybe millions of Koreans on both sides of the border.....)
Consider this: in 2001, some well funded but effectively "private" terrorists knocked down the WTC and hit the pentagon. Today, how hard would it be for a NK state backed team of suicide fighters to repeat that exercise?
Total war has no rules, and i don't expect Kimmy to feel the need to conform to the Geneva Convention, especially when the USA made the first aggressive play eh......
Well Flashy is going to do all right out of this new Tax bill, apparently Staples salesmen are going to be doing just fine....
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by blackmailing them.
Doesn’t blackmail usually involve the other person giving you money in return for something, rather than them expecting you to keep on giving them money in return for nothing ?
Nope
force (someone) to do something by using threats or manipulating their feelings
No more blackmail than being told that if you don’t go to work next week, you’ll get sacked
It’s hardly coercion
Nobody is being forced to do anything, But the US also does not have to keep supporting them with foreign aid.
It's really very simple.
He's forcing them to do something by threatening to remove economic aid, it's literally the definition of blackmail.
Don't worry China will pick up the tab as long as the countries in question support the Chinese view on world issues.
He's forcing them to do something by threatening to remove economic aid
Where? He [i]literally[/i] said the opposite
“[i]Let them vote against us,”
“We’ll save a lot. We don’t care.[/i]
He hasn’t demanded, requested or forced them to do anything, he’s just said what the consequences will be.
Ninny, you really need to try harder.
128 against Vs 8 for...
Today the world took a stance against the USA.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42446027 ]bbc news linky[/url]
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Interesting that the other permanent members of the security council all voted for.
Do you think Mrs May is trying to annoy trump so much that he has a hissy fit and calls off his visit #toxictrump
No trade deal for the UK then....
[quote=akira ]Ninny, you really need to try harder.
God no he scrapped the barrel of credulity dry in about 2006 and is not typing shit even he does not think is credible
"This day will be remembered"!
he is keeping good company I can see the Christmas card list being a short one from the white house.
Mexico could of wound him up a treat but they sat on the fence
I find it hard to comment on Trump now. All the expletives have been used.
He is simply dangerous in my opinion.
I would say dangerously simple.
[quote=ninfan ]No more blackmail than being told that if you don’t [s]go to work[/s] vote for a particular candidate next week, you’ll get sacked
I'm sure you wouldn't want inaccuracies to creep into your analogies ninny, so I've fixed it for you.
akira - Member
I would say dangerously simple.
Lol, spot on!
So The Human Slimebag seeks to muscle other countries into his schemes by blackmailing them.
It has worked for him all his horrible life/career.
Read up on his early days as, basically, an opportunist bully.
There is something fundamentally wrong with a world that can allow someone to get this far with his approach.
Annecdotal piece from CBS, three examples all better off under Trump’s tax amendments
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-the-tax-bill-will-affect-three-american-families/
3 families out of 50,000,000,not really a representative sample is it ?
three examples all better off under Trump’s tax amendments
Well thats great. What about the other 150million? (I have no idea how many families are in the USA)
He did point out his calculations are just estimates and says [b]everything could change again in a few years when many of the new provisions expire.[/b]
Which is what most of the criticism i’ve read has said
The latest addition to the Jambastable... to accompany the Jambafact... the Jambapoll.
Nice one!
Well we see the true face of the #jambafact. It's annecdotal.
13k posts by 1st jan 2018?
The Spence prayer and Trump's folded arms put me in mind of:
This is what the Trump administration is about:
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/22/us-ambassador-to-netherlands-describes-own-words-as-fake-news ]US ambassador to Netherlands describes own words as 'fake news'[/url]
saw that earlier very nuts
That is brilliant
"we would call that fake news"
Yes, yes you would.
the beauty is that even now its still fake news - fake news means facts i dont like but cannot refute- or outright lies
Liars. Liars who lie as easily as they breathe.
An "I'm not worthy" bow to Wouter Zwarte for being sharp enough to have the clip ready and waiting, almost as if he anticipated the Trumpian bullcrap in advance... 😯
"An "I'm not worthy" bow to Wouter Zwarte for being sharp enough to have the clip ready and waiting, almost as if he anticipated the Trumpian bullcrap in advance... "
It doesn't take any particular prescience to anticipate lies from the Trump administration and it's appointees.
Well, quite, but you have to admit that anticipating something [i]this specific[/i] was an act of genius.
I bet he's a good chess player.
Happy Christmas, Donald. You've earned this 🙂
[url= http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-christmas-least-popular-president-ever-757898 ]Donald Trump's approval rating at christmas makes him the least popular president ever[/url]
CNN poll? 😆
Finally he is the best at something
CNN poll?
And Gallup and Lucid.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
How about the full set, the outlier of 44% which is at least consistent for these guys
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history
So yeah most unpopular president ever - how anyone could actually disagree is a bit beyond me when you see the strength of feeling - and not winning in Alabama.