[quote=jambalaya ]Full scale operation to [s]discredit him[/s] expose what he really is operation on now
[url= http://www.itv.com/news/2016-10-07/hes-a-total-complete-utter-moron-brian-blessed-delivers-his-damning-verdict-on-trump/ ]Brian Blessed appears undecided[/url]
These allegations corroborate his alleged victims stories about him grabbing their crotches, He'd be in a sex offenders wing somewhere if he wasn't so rich.
So, it turns out that Trump is a bit rapey. Who would have thought!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37594918
Republican hierarchy seems to have decided that he's done for now - the rats are disembarking at a frantic pace.
Debate should be fun on Sunday. I'm hoping for an actual Donald meltdown on stage as he finally realises the game is up.
I'm hoping for an actual Donald meltdown on stage as he finally realises the game is up.
This would be amazing!
Who is that guy wih a whole glass of coke in his mouth?
He has not surprisingly come out fighting, "Bill Clinton has said worse to me", " Hillary intimidated a woman Bill was having an afair with"
A leak of 10 year old recording a minth before the vote is a high risk strategy for the Democrats as Clinton is very weak on any moral stance.
This is going to go to the wire in November, less than a month to go now
Bit scary he's got this far tbh.
Indeed wilburt, I thought he wouldn't get close to winning the nomination. Now it's a two horse race between two terrible candidates
Jesus, is that the worst they have managed to drum up? I've heard far worse at the local knitting circle, let alone the rugby bus.
I don't think you are telling the truth on that one ninfan
It's not really huge shock though is it?
The man owned the Miss Universe, Miss USA and Miss Teen USA beauty pageant, he has appeared in a Playboy video, openly discussed which female Apprentice contestants he'd like to have sex with, is married to a former model 24 years younger than him, and even openly suggested he would like to have sex with his own daughter.
It's pretty obvious this is not a man with enlightened views on sexuality and misogyny.
And many of his supporters love him for that!
It plays into the whole "straight talking" anti-liberal anti-PC thing.
I'm pretty sure the guy could grope a presenter on live TV and still get support. 😕
Indeed wilburt, I thought he wouldn't get close to winning the nomination. Now it's a two horse race between two terrible candidates
There's clear daylight between the 2 - a standard corrupt political player and a sociopathic misogynist and probable rapist,fraudster and tax evader , who's reveling in stirring up racial and social divisions for a chance at power
more like exposed as a very nasty person who brags about sexually assaulting women
This.
Quite frankly how anyone can spin/defend this into anything else is simply beyond me.
I can only assume that those who do share his (Trump) views.
Fing horrendous.
It's pretty obvious this is not a man with enlightened views on sexuality and misogyny.
A veryvalied point! However, this tme Trump has felt the need to issue a full and frank apology (his first and only!), which is a good indicator that what he has done is not acceptable.
Who is that guy wih a whole glass of coke in his mouth?
Looks like Jerry Lewis.
I'm hoping for an actual Donald meltdown on stage as he finally realises the game is up.
He has "issues" when dealing with women, just needs Hilary to press the right buttons.
I just continually wonder what he is going to have to do to really stop the lunatic, or even the quite sensible, american voters choosing him.
Wherever I go in the world and have conversations with Americans, there are rather a lot of normal, tax paying, hard working folks of all races who openly support him. I am stunned by this, but the Hilary distrust runs deep.
Most sensible democrats also admit that the are pretty sure he's gonna win.
Stunning.
I think I may have already mentioned this, but friends with someone on FB who appears to be normal, quite nice and even fairly liberal (in a US sense) but apparently supports Trump because he's a Christian and disagrees with Clinton on abortion. This despite the fact that as far as I can work out any difference in opinion on abortion will make no difference to policy or laws, and there appears to be a lot about Trump I'd expect him to dislike.
That's what you're dealing with in terms of the voters.
aracer: you should google some links on Trump's abortion stance for them. It's... err.. mixed!
He has at various points been Pro-Life, Pro-Choice and a couple of stops in between.
(So pretty much like all his "policies" then)
aracerThat's what you're dealing with in terms of the voters.
There's apparently some study (sorry, that's as accurate as I can get) which suggests that undecided voters will fixate on an issue that they feel is most important to them and they'll choose their political representatives based on the representatives stance on that one issue (regardless of whether they are at odds with the politician's stance on other matters).
Not going there Graham - not somebody I really know that well and have never met in real life (yes I have some odd FB friends), so not discussing politics with him!
Fair enough. For your own interest read this brief summary:
some strong stuff coming out of the states over the remarks
'It's over'Avik Roy in Forbes, cites a number of the faux pas that have dogged Mr Trump over the past few weeks.
He says: "None of this was enough to prevent nearly all leading GOP [Republican] lawmakers from endorsing Trump as their nominee. But the latest tape just might. Why?
"Because few Republican lawmakers have Muslim relatives. Few Republican lawmakers are of Mexican heritage. Few Republican lawmakers have faced discrimination based on the colour of their skin. But all of them have white female relatives. And therefore, when Trump talks about grabbing white women by the genitals, they can directly relate."
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There's clear daylight between the 2
Based upon opinion polls ? We know how accurate those have been recently. I won't rest easily until the results are in, I very much fear there are many "shy" Trump supporters who when asked in polls say Clinton or undecided.
Based upon opinion polls ?
Why don't you just read the rest of the post you're quoting? No mention of polls or even chances of being elected, it's a reply to your assertion that they're both terrible.
Oh hello- this normally means that they are about to quit lol!
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37597756 ]Trump says he definitely will not quit[/url]
Based upon opinion polls
Nope based on the fact that he's a self professed abuser of women, to most people that would rule him out of the presidency, unless you have as little respect for women and/ or Hilary as much as he obviously does.
Worryingly there seem to be plenty of Americans who do.
Its a terrible thought that he could still win, - after all the outright lies and hate spread by Brexit, it still happened.
I wonder if his chum Farage is still heading out to advise him how to get away with being a racist arsehole in the coming denate?
The Republicans are scrambling to distance themselves from him, their endorsements, said through clenched teeth anyway, are going to come back and haunt them and they know it.
With any luck he's done lasting damage to the GOP, even more so than Palin!
even more so than Palin!
Palin! Things have gotten so crazy I almost feel nostalgic for Palin lol
How are the fanboys dealing with this then?
Jamby is still hoping that the basic indecency of shy trumpers will see him in, the rest of our resident rightwingers have gone quiet.
Pence has stopped appearing for him, I strongly suspect that he's consulting among the rest of the GOP as to whether he can run himself if they can find a way to neutralise trump's planet sized ego enough to get him to drop out
Giuliani has said that trump won't quit, despite his own daughters now tweeting against trump and his misogyny.
Chris Christie has said nothing.......
I suspect he's at home with the lights out, some good scotch and The Sound Of Silence on repeat, mentally replaying that awful moment of clarity.....
Trump:
"I'd never withdraw. I've never withdrawn in my life."
How many kids does he have?
Jamby is still hoping that the basic indecency of shy trumpers will see him in, the rest of our resident rightwingers have gone quiet.
It's distressing that he continues to support him quite frankly!
Thank F he doesn't actually get a vote...
If Trump does make it to the White House, what are the odds on him being the first president to be assassinated since JFK? Better than evens i reckon........
That Chris Christie video is epic!
[url= http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-react-20161007-snap-htmlstory.html ]doesn't have many friends even in his own party, and his running mate is distancing himself ![/url]
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/08/robert-de-niro-blasts-stupid-donald-trump-id-like-to-punch-him-i/ ]say what you really think Mr De Niro.[/url]
I still think the scariest outcome ,if he withdraws,is the prospect of his hair looking for a new host. Perhaps that's why Nige is cosying up to him.
I'm in San Fransisco watching live TV news, and he is getting absolutely caned. A large amount of his support is Bible Belt, and the Mormon leaders have just come out against him.
If Trump does make it to the White House, what are the odds on him being the first president to be assassinated since JFK? Better than evens i reckon........
Unfortunately, the sort of far-right, gun-toting nutjobs who assassinate presidents are the very same people actually voting for this one... 🙁
That is normal. Nothing new.dantsw13 - Member
... San Fransisco ...
I rather want to see that than to see Hilary Clinton causing troubles to the world.maxtorque - Member
If Trump does make it to the White House, what are the odds on him being the first president to be assassinated since JFK? Better than evens i reckon........
On the other hand, what is the odd of Hilary Clinton not seeing through her entire first term due to health problem eh?
How many kids does he have?
You sir just won my comment of the night award.
If Trump does make it to the White House, what are the odds on him being the first president to be assassinated since JFK? Better than evens i reckon........
Not worth the bullet. Plus it would turn him into some kind of saint for the trash that follow him. If the US electorate actually put that abomination in the White House they deserve all they get. Just like us with Brexit.
How much of an impact will this have on his daughters business of promoting women in business?
You can't blame Trump for being Trump. He's a revolting piece of work but he always has been. He is also a useful litmus test for the rest of the populous.
You can't blame the uneducated and the knuckle draggers for supporting him. The fact that they are so gullible as to have been conned into thinking voting for a billionaire born with a silver spoon rammed down his throat is a vote for the common man or anti establishment is sad but maybe inevitable given the state of viable other options.
But I look at anyone with intelligence and education who proposes a vote for this man with utter contempt. Anyone in possession of more than two neurons who even considered this vile human as being presidential material needs removing from the gene pool.