This is the exact reason i won't vote for ANY politican, because the system has entirely become about THEM and not US!
They should represent us. But "they" have fallen for the cult of celebrity, and hence now spend more time in-fighting and arguing amongst themselves than actually getting off their fat, corrupt bottoms and getting on with the job of running the country. Lies, distraction, blame-anyone-but-myself. Frankly if they were children you'd bang their heads together and tell them to f-ing well grow up, and send them to bed with no supper.......
Still
https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1386005429847724036?s=19
Tbh hes bullshitting us all but funny to think of how nervous Johnson & plenty of others in No 10 world be at the prospect of this
This is the exact reason i won’t vote for ANY politican, because the system has entirely become about THEM and not US!
While I agree and understand with the sentiment, by not voting at all you have given up any slim chance you have to make a difference and so they have beaten you and won.
revs1972
Free MemberNot knowing the name of the conservative mayoral candidate in Gloucestershire that he was campaigning for being a classic example
Best example for me- in his book the Churchill Factor he tells us about what he thinks was a defining moment of the war and of his hero's career, where Churchill's leadership saved the allies after the fall of Stalingrad.
Gove waiting in the wings sharpening his backstabbing knife no doubt
https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1386058675463274498?s=19
I know it'll change nothing
Johnsons fans already know he's a lyi g cheating bullshitter, they'll vote for him anyway & vaccine bounce gives him a pass
But it is funny to watch this schoolyard spat play out
https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1386072184775397376?s=19
While I agree and understand with the sentiment, by not voting at all you have given up any slim chance you have to make a difference and so they have beaten you and won.
But who are you going to vote for if you think ALL MPS are the same?
Green MPs seem to have more integrity but we will never know as they will never get anything close to any power which is where the corruption really comes in.
Secretly recording govt meetings- Shouldn't he be straight in prison for that?
A lot of people like the tories (seemingly no matter what a bunch of ****ers they are) and they also hate Cummings so an easy job for the tories to just keep saying Cummings and keeping the tory lovers happy.
The people who actually think all this stuff is wrong are not voting tory to start with.
My only hope is that they both end up so damaged that they are not able to influence politics or society ever again.
Bojo the Clown and Tefal-Head Dom in a vat of Lime jelly together fighting to the death . . . . .
an ally of Cummings. “He was pushing the prime minister hard to lock down sooner in the autumn and he has lots of evidence that shows that his decision to delay led to devastating consequences.”
So Dom was pressing hard for a lockdown, just not one that affected him.
Not one for a conspiracy theory but I do wonder if this spat is all a bit fabricated.
Issue - Getting Brexit done and handling of COVID 19 has left skeletons in cupboard and economic consequences and risk tories become unelectable
How to sort it? - blame it on the boss and reinvent the party
- Cummings leaves no 10 under a cloud
- Cummings brings down Boris
- Gove steps forward
- election
Who is the bigger ****?
Dumbojo or Gove and Dummings?
‘They’ voted for this lot is always quite convenient when casting blame. Actually as a nation we kind of vote on a vaguely right of centre basis but the electoral system spits out a right wing landslide. A bit like brexit. 52/48 and you’d think we’d have got a compromise sensible single market type thing, but no, we get a batshit version.
Although I don’t agree with either voting Tory or brexit I do think the system has done the majority a disservice.
Also. I can’t believe how rubbish this government is.
the parable of the scorpion and the frog comes to mind
Gove, Jesus Christ
As a Tory hater though I'd be more concerned with someone less obviously repellent like Jeremy Hunt or sunak.
Installing Gove would show extreme contempt for the UK so would be par for the course I guess. More trolling the nation
I guess Labour would stand a better chance against gove at a general election,mainly because gove looks like a total knob.
I guess Labour would stand a better chance against gove at a general election,mainly because gove looks like a total knob.
That didn't stop Johnson winning
Schadenfreude aside, the majority will still think Johnson is a lad
That's the bottom line. Sadly it is not just the standard of politics that has taken a nosedive in the last 6-7 years. The intellect and attitude of a large section of the UK morons electorate has too.
Secretly recording govt meetings- Shouldn’t he be straight in prison for that?
The last few weeks have told us how much this government does its shady business outside “govt meetings”… the stuff that has been either leaked by “someone” or Cummings has shared has been from where officials have been absent (private txt messages or conversations). The public interest in sharing details of conversations held in such as way as to keep it away from official “government” channels is strong.
I'm sure that we must have reached the point with this lot that when they do have official meetings, with civil servants present, they just sit there in an awkward silence.
All government business seems to now be conducted via private WhatsApp messages
Green MPs seem to have more integrity but we will never know
Because people won't make a stand because if FPTP
When Cameron went, everyone (with a shred of integrity) cheered. And then they installed May.
When May went, everyone (with a shred of integrity) cheered. And then they installed Johnson.
If Johnson goes, we are balls deep into "be careful what you wish for" territory.
If Johnson goes, we are balls deep into “be careful what you wish for” territory
I'm guessing Cummings would want his chum Gove in the job, but Gove is electorally repulsive
Im sure the tory vultures are circling, but brand Boris is a big part of the Tories appeal, losing him would be a dangerous move.
It all comes down to how vindictive Cummings is, and even then, Cummings not as smart as he thinks he is by a long way.
If Johnson goes, we are balls deep into “be careful what you wish for” territory.
Priti Patel is Home Secretary. Makes you think...
I’m guessing Cummings would want his chum Gove in the job, but Gove is electorally repulsive
Actually, what's happened to Gove? Not heard a peep out of him for weeks.
gove is leading the anti SNP unit at Westminster. apparently he is the man to save the union from nasty Nikki
Wait until his select committee appearance in May; he and Gove have their gameplan in place.
tjagain
Full Membergove is leading the anti SNP unit at Westminster. apparently he is the man to save the union from nasty Nikki
And you never know, at some point we might find out how much taxpayer's money has effectively been spent on political campaigns and FB adverts in the runup to this scottish election, and add that to the sleaze pile.
there are certainly several pro union outfits have sprung up and keep on placing ads on facebook etc
Given that so much anti-lockdown propaganda is being funded and broadcast by several prominent Tory donors and several numbskull Tory MPs, I'd be amazed if there were a single senior Tory who hasn't echoed the sentiments published on the front page of the Daily Heil this morning. We're all cannon fodder for the libertarian view that people should just accept dying as a sacrifice to the economy - the very same economy that's tanking thanks to Brexit.
As for Alexander de Pfeffel's continued lambasting in the press, this sort of thing happens every time that a Tory PM goes off-script. They did it with May and will do so with the next incumbent. The depressing reality is that there's no shortage of congenital incompetents and/or sociopaths waiting in the wings who'd privatise their own grandmothers on a whim if it would help make one of their mates rich(er).
Cummings not as smart as he thinks he is by a long way
Maybe, but he is a lot smarter than his previous employers.
That's a pretty low bar though.
All of us who do care need to keep kicking up stink. There’s more of us than we realise, but too many are silent
‘They’ voted for this lot is always quite convenient when casting blame. Actually as a nation we kind of vote on a vaguely right of centre basis but the electoral system spits out a right wing landslide. A bit like brexit. 52/48 and you’d think we’d have got a compromise sensible single market type thing, but no, we get a batshit version.
Well it for combined with splintered politics.
The Tories sweep up social conservatives (probably most of their support), free market conservatives together. A few of the more nuuter socially conservative are members of UKIP or whatever the latest bat shit mental party Nigel has started to suck money out of the stupid and try and influence Tory part policy but not in significant numbers.
In the opposing corner we have:
Labour grabing hardened trade unionists, and navel gazing idealistic people telling everyone how things should be not how they are, ignoring where we are and demonising none believers, a few extra ex new Labour realists have been largely beaten out.
Lib Dems grabs a lot of middle road people but tend to tell people they can't have their cake and eat (which for some reason people don't like) it but can't be trusted and it's a "wasted vote".
Greens now diverging into labours land but with more ambitious bgreen targets and no trade union support.
SNP are obviously happy with this split as it furthers their cause to have a Tory government.
Until something splits the Tories, or something splits labour allowing libdems and labour to join forces in some way or fptp is removed the conservatives are in such a strong position they will only be out of power for very limited periods imo.
Until something splits the Tories, or something splits labour allowing libdems and labour to join forces in some way or fptp is removed the conservatives are in such a strong position they will only be out of power for very limited periods imo.
Which has already been the case for almost the last 100 years hasn't it apart from that period when the Blair (boo, hiss, tory lite etc,.) government had a longish stay. With SNP now taking such a number of seats from Labour it is never going back.
Nothing will split the Tories now they've realised (in no small part thanks to Dominic Cumstains) how thick the electorate is.
SNP are obviously happy with this split as it furthers their cause to have a Tory government.
I think that's probably a little unfair. There will be some in the SNP who prefer this, others would probably prefer that there was a labour minority government and they held the balance of power, and I'm quite sure there is a faction in SNP who would rather we had a UK that works for Scotland (perhaps a federal system, major electoral reform) but as nobody has seemed interested in that Indy becomes the alternative. But, lets be clear the shitshow that is Brexit helped the SNP in the short term but now faces them with the "Border problem". It would be somewhat ironic if as part of Indy negotiations the SNP were to actually find a solution for the Border issue which then is used to fix the NI border issue.
You have to be careful jumping from "in some ways that helps them" to "they prefer this" or "are happy with it".
Nothing will split the Tories now they’ve realised (in no small part thanks to Dominic Cumstains) how thick the electorate is.
And they can lie with impunity and no-one will pick them up on it. See: 40 hospitals, Jeremy Corbyn is a friend of terrorists, No border in the Irish Sea, EU borders with Turkey etc etc. It's the new normal.
So, our man is to present himself in front a parliamentary select committee this week. What are the odds that he'll 1. insult someone's intelligence (I think the odds on that have to be pretty small don't they?) 2. He'll drop Johnson in it, up to his neck, 3. It won't make the slightest bit of difference to Johnson polling. 4. that vein on his head will finally go bang...
1, 2 & 3 are nailed on. 4 is just wishful thinking.
He can play a long game though... 3 may well change a year or two down the line, based on the seeds sown this year... who knows.
1, 2 & 3 are nailed on. 4 is just wishful thinking.
Yeah his recent tweets give a good idea of it. I do like his consistent blaming of people in charge. If only he had been in a influential position in number 10 instead of being stuck on the sidelines just think what he could have achieved.
