Pie, as ever, nails it.
tell parliament what to do
Anyone knows what this means? Anyone seen Cummings in parliament?
Parliament haven’t been relevant for weeks now.
Are the MPs calling for Cummings to go part of parliament?
US trade deal in the background I hope, we will need all the bleached chicken we can get to cure covid.
This didn’t get the recognition it deserved. Well played.
Just watched the news and after that I don’t care what Cummings did. No interest whatsoever.
You should care if you have any moral compass.
It isn't just about the current issue, the media have been at it for ages and it has negated much of what they say in my view.
Too many of our electorate have the attention span of a coked-up gnat.
Not always. Hillsborough killed 96, Grenfell 72 and the families haven't let them go. This is killing many more than that every day. Those families will want answers. And this is not a few scousers or council tenants, it's everyone. There will be multiple public enquiries and the government and its advisers will be in the spotlight for years, if not decades.
the media have been at it for ages and it has negated much of what they say in my view
At it? Are you complaining about media voices that question the words and actions of politicians? Do you think their role should be to support all politicians and the teams they surround themselves with, or just those currently in number 10?
brads - are you my MP?
Nope and I'm not that interested in folk defending the press, that's your choice. The media are scum in my opinion.
I trust them less than any politician.
I trust them less than any politician.
you must really distrust Blojo then.
If that's true you really need a think, when you consider any number of scumbag politician examples yet they're all above the media?
In fact, with that one statement frankly it negates any of your other ones as worth listening to. Or marks you as a troll. Either way....
the media have been at it for ages and it has negated much of what they say in my view
You are entitled to hold that view.
I am, but seemingly according to the poster above you, I'm not.
I guess some people cannot accept others views without resorting to insults.
Marks them out as a certain kind of person anyway.
Any interest I did have has been overshadowed by the media demanding to run the country and tell parliament what to do.
Move on. especially the scummy BBC.
Ahahaha! FFS Boris and his chums have used the media to stir up a culture war which has so far worked out very well for them. I've got no love for the likes of Kuenssberg and Peston but the media culture that exists now is a direct result of the actions of Cummings and his boss. You lot had no problem when it was used to brand Corbyn a racist and mercillessly abuse Diane Abbott, but now it's the other sides turn to experience the same you whine about 'scummy media'. it's ****ing pathetic quite frankly. Here's a tip though, if Boris and Cummings and their loyal zombie acolytes go to war with the media then bring it on, it'll be very amusing watching them be turned inside out and ridiculed on a daily basis like Trump is in the US.
You called the BBC scummy.
That's an insult isn't it?
Your daughter's not called India by any chance?
The media are scum in my opinion.
@brads, you do know that “the media” are Johnson, Gove, Gove’s wife, Cummings’ wife… etc… yes? Journalists and column writers, all of them.
You lot ?? who the hell are you lot ?? fairly ranty there dazh no ?
As an aside why the hell can't I get quotes to insert in the posts.?
It's probably Diane Abbott's fault.
I blame the Daily Mail, and their left wing anti-Brexit agenda.
Edit: I’ve reconsidered… it’s more likely all the fault of the relentlessly anti-Johnson Telegraph.
I am, but seemingly according to the poster above you, I’m not.
I guess some people cannot accept others views without resorting to insults.
Marks them out as a certain kind of person anyway.
Didn't say you can't hold it, I just said it makes your views irrelevant if you really believe that. To say you trust the media less than ANY politician is palpably rubbish, and if you hold that then why would I bother listening to anything else you say either?
Either that, or you're just taking that position to cause an argument, aka trolling.
No insult, just an opinion. Sorry if that marks me out.
fortunately the majority of people dont agree with brads
even Leave voters think he should resign, 52 to 48%, the magic ratio!
Ps . That’s the first time I’ve been properly rude on STW in 10 years. Congratulations.
If you want some credibility, tell us what is so wrong in this Guardian article
hmmm..... I recognise most posters on here and Brads rings a bell.
You're the bloke that posted the 'Evans going bust' thread based on what - an 'Industry Newsletter'. Isn't that a form of media, albeit specialist journalism? You trusted them enough to post potentially damaging 'rumour' then I see (but never actually cited a source?)
Media you say? Nope, don't trust them just like I don't trust politicians.
At least you lot in the west have some forms of "control" over the media, in the far east people just simply read them for fun. When a lockdown was announced the govt has to reinforce them with army coz not many people take them seriously ...
Oh ya in the far east we have clowns in the govt as they can easily switch side with monetary incentive.
How anyone could watch tonights 6 o'clock news and come away thinking the BBC are the problem I have no idea. Clive Myrie's segment from Royal London's intensive care unit was one of the most honest and sobering segments you will ever see on a news broadcast.
That’s the first time I’ve been properly rude on STW in 10 years. Congratulations.
A man in your position amongst many others in here With issues is absolutely vindicated in the context to do so IMO, and on the contrary I’d like to congratulate you on managing to keep it so polite. I suspect it wasn’t easy.
Yeah, but....Lefties......Corbyn, Remoaners.....
How did we end up with this bloke being the most powerful man in the country
Just look at him!
If you bumped into him in the street, you’d assume he was on his way to the offy to buy more cider so he could spend the afternoon shouting at buses
Thanks Kryton. I honestly hope Brads comes up with some reasoned arguments. I’m all for debate. But you take on STW with half truths and bravado at your peril!
It’s a bit like trying to argue with AA over ruck laws on the rugby thread! 😆
Binners - he prefers shouting with a bus instead! A big red bus with a slogan.......
It’s a bit like trying to argue with AA over ruck laws on the rugby thread!
Now that would be really stupid, we all know AA is right. 😉
I think he's a bit too excited by the cameras too. Either he's playing pocket billiards or his undertrousers are shrinking.
Dirty sociopathic pervy lying twunt
I honestly hope Brads comes up with some reasoned arguments. I’m all for debate
Hmmm, don't hold your breath; having looked back at the Evans thread he turned up, dropped a (false) bomb, and then didn't respond to any requests to show his working out. Troll, IMHO.
Brads, presumably you would like to ban a free press? Or put limits on their output? Allowing governments (of either side of the spectrum) businesses and individuals to do as they wish with impunity?
Dirty sociopathic pervy lying twunt
I am going to borrow that 👍 👏 🤣
Oh dear Brads.
that scum media!
Just received a reply from Bill Wiggin, the relevant bit after explaining how hard he and the govt. has been working to help his constituents and thanking me for the sacrifices we have all made was
I have had no dealing with Dominic Cummings and know nothing of his family circumstances. Therefore, I believe it inappropriate to comment directly on those circumstances.
During this unprecedented time we have seen large and often painful reductions in our usual freedoms. Those making the laws must of course show leadership and follow the law.
I have contacted the Government regarding the strength of feeling I have observed in my mailbox on this issue, and I will of course share with you the response I receive.
It is regrettable that this weekend has been such an unhelpful distraction from the genuine needs of my constituents.
As I said, sitting on the fence- one interpretation is an implied criticism of Cummings, but the ‘regrettable’ part could refer to Cummings or the media, or indeed both
That star front page is excellent...and so is the tone on newsnight 👍👍👍👍
Nick watt is paraphrasing ministers off the record again. c'mon!!!!!!
Cummings self isolating.
Emily Maitlis on Newsnight tonight worth a watch. Why don't Laura K and Robert P have this kind of quality questioning? They need to go for re-training.
Emily maitlis is currently pulling down Andrew Bridgen's trousers and is making fun of his johnson a la miss cherry forever in Porkies 👍👍🤭
The redtops - that Star front page is a perfect 10.
As for Brads' view that the media are scum - palpable bollocks of the highest order; as a small counter to his/her idiotic view - thalidomide, trafigura, jimmy savile, cyril smith, cambridge anaytica in the UK; watergate in the US.
None of these would have been ever/properly exposed without the media poking about where they weren't wanted.
Our world would be a much poorer and more dangerous place without that poking about.
They also provide a much needed counter balance to fake news promulgated in the online world.
What about the concept of being held to account?
The media could do better but, without them, what would we have? 21st century version of the wild west.
Andrew Bridgen MP is not covering himself with glory on Newsnight.
Craig Shittaker almost appears to be a human (it's just a ruse though, he's still a nasty git who hates the poor, women, disabled people, ethnic minorities etc.)
