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Don't see why not most dogs I see in parks are far better behaved than the kids I see in parks and they are all supervised by their owners
so they curl one out on the path and walk off in your area?
why do kids in parks need to be supervised? surely it should be a safe play? or are the parents worried about other park users?
or are the parents worried about other park users?
this. Parenthood = worry on a scale you never knew existed prior to their arrival.
pparently you cannot walk them inpublic on a lead
Interestingly, when my sister and I were clearing out our parents' house last year, we found several (black and white) pictures of me wearing a set of what can only be described as 'reins' as I toddle along the road with my mum. I guess the do-gooders have nixed this practice as well!
municipal park
I don't think I worded that very well, as I am thinking strictly of in-town green spaces. We quite often use our local 'country park' for dog walking. I should also have been clearer that I meant [i]"I don't fancy the hassle"[/i], rather than [i]"I don't think anyone should do it"[/i].
As an aside, while not enough dog owners pick up their dog's crap, on the rare occasions I've seen parents toileting their children al fresco, they've always just left it there, tissues and all. Don't get me started about the grotesque practice of [i]'nappy flinging'[/i] around the high flats in Glasgow.
this. Parenthood = worry on a scale you never knew existed prior to their arrival.
not helped by the OAP woman who exercises a mastiff (must be twice her weight), or the bloke with three large mastiff/ pit bull types all off the lead at our local [s]park[/s] dog toilet, when you are teaching the 4 year old to ride her bike
On a unrelated note, why are orthodox Jews so terified of dogs? The kids run screaming from our cocker spaniel when we take it out in the park on a Saturday...
maybe the smell of bacon masks the small of lamb so dogs don't chase us. unprotected by porcine aroma, jews are totally irresistable to slavering hounds?
I was walking my dog a while back and she was having a good run round the park with a large male Staffie cross. All good they were playing nicely enough, until that is a semingly unsupervised male American Bulldog came running over puffing out its chest I called my dog away as two male's of that type and a female is going to end in tears. The lady with the Staffie went to separate them and I went to help. It was obviously about to kick off and so it did. At this point the owner of the American Bulldog could be seen shouting at his maybe 8 year old kid to go get the dog. So two big powerful dogs fighting and the owner sends his kid to go get it!!! At this point the lady was screaming her older staffie was taking a pasting and an 8 year old was running over!! I let my dog off at this point, shes very fast and very stupid and was able to get the attacking dog to chase her. The lady got away with her dog and I called Kea away.
Then the best bit, kid gets dog and dad takes it into the fenced off no dogs allowed swings area so he can carry on doing whatever the hell he was up to and his dog would only be free to eat children wanting to play on the swings!!!
Whilst walking the coast path in North Devon i saw a sheep, it was cast so i went into the field to get it back on it's feet therefore saving it's life.
It was however pecked by birds, it's face covered in blood, blinded and suffering, it also was in lamb.
I make the choice to kill it and cease it's suffering. I watched it pass away and then went in search of the farmer to tell him.
Did he shoot me?
Nope, his wife made me a breakfast and pack lunch for the day..
In the case of dogs running loose near livestock.
It's down to the responsibility of the dog owners to ensure the safety of any living thing around it, whether that's livestock, people of other dogs and cats. The moment they make it a pet, they become responsible for all it's actions, that includes messing, chasing, killing, etc.
If your pet causes stress to another animal one or both of you should be treated in away to make you a better pet owner. If the dog is on a farmers land and get shot for distressing livestock and gets shot, perhaps that lesson will make you a more careful and responsible owner.
We are all wild animals at heart and every now and again we all show our natural traits in many ways. A dog is no different, it's natural to want to chase and kill and can do so with very little warning.
If it's done it once it WILL do it again. I'm quite confident of that.
Junkyard - MemberYour claim is a little more than suggesting it can tell how you feel apparently it can detect your inner states and be happy when you are happy as well. That would be impressive for a human never mind a dog.
You are anthropomorphising and giving the dog emotional/intuitive/empathetic abilities it does not have
Where did I say all that??
A dog, as a pack animal, will sense its owners basic emotions. eg Agressive owner = aggressive dog. Relaxed owner = relaxed dog. Hence the saying no such thing as bad dogs, just bad owners. Thats not anthropomorphising, thats actually completely the opposite; basic knowledge of dogs.
And thats also not to say the how the owner feels is the only thing that will govern a dogs instincts (EDIT eg a stronger hunting instinct around potential prey ie livestock), its just a contributing factor.
Anyway poor troll distracting from the main point of my post. A dog near livestock goes on the lead, or the owner should be prepared for the consequences. End of. And actually well done to the OP putting this post up to remind people.
I cursed this thread today, i knew it would happen. I got a call to go find a mastiff in a field in the middle of nowhere when i got there i found a very angry mastiff cross that was running round a field the size of two football pitch right next to a field with 50 or sheep in, the dog was probably 12 stone and could have killed the lot in no time. We never got the dog as it did one into some woods and it got dark so im dreading work tomorrow
While trying in vain to catch the thing, a farmers wife pulls up and asks if i want it shooting and tells me in no uncertain terms that if it comes near her farm that its getting shot.
I dont buy that "No such thing as bad dogs it only bad owners" thing, you get bad dogs like you get bad people. What with inbreeding and eugenics, surely its has an effect on mental stability.
Just my opinion.
Don't see why not most dogs I see in parks are far better behaved than the kids I see in parks and they are all supervised by their owners
I've never had a small child bite me in a park. Of course the dog which did was being "supervised" by it's owner - she was busy shouting at it to leave me alone.
I dont buy that "No such thing as bad dogs it only bad owners" thing, you get bad dogs like you get bad people. What with inbreeding and eugenics, surely its has an effect on mental stability.
Just my opinion
Probably fair comment actually.
I'd still say it applies in the majority of cases though.
I've said this before, but when I was a kid, dogs roamed the streets freely. I don't remember getting killed by one.
Maybe we should re-introduce freedom to dogs - it might address our immigration problems somewhat more effectively than any current measures.
konaboy2275 - Member
On a unrelated note, why are orthodox Jews so terified of dogs? The kids run screaming from our cocker spaniel when we take it out in the park on a Saturday...
Didn't realise it was a cultural thing but can well believe it. I was taking photos with a large format camera on a tripod several years ago. My dog was sitting bored out of his mind waiting for the walk to re-commence.
A wee orthtodox Jewish lad suddenly jumped onto the wall behind me, saw my dog and ran screaming. He fell over at the bottom of the hill and scraped his face up on the gravel path.
I went down to see what the fuss was about and the whole family (of about six) were cowering behind Dad, who was looking distinctly green about the gills himself. He shouted that my dog should be on a lead (the dog was still sitting next to my tripod looking bored) and that all dogs were crazed beasts with bloodlust in their eyes - that's almost a verbatim quote.
I called my dog and suggested that the children could give him a pat / dog biscuit - cue more terrified screaming. At this point the National Trust Nazi arrived on his little Shriner-car and started reading the riot act. I made my excuses and left.
I was taking photos with a large format camera on a tripod several years ago
sfb will be on next saying you should be using digital you luddite 😉
He did say several years ago...
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR -Maybe we should re-introduce freedom to dogs - it might address our immigration problems somewhat more effectively than any current measures.
Utterly fascinated by this passage. I'm dying to know what immigration problems we have/it might solve and also, even more intriguingly, [i]how[/i] it might solve these problems.
Do expand upon it.
I was being facetious.
Do you not know me by now?
Oh drat, I was hoping you were being serious. I'm very concerned about the immigration problems this once-and-future great nation faces and wished to engage in scholarly discussion as to how our British Bulldogs might scare off Johnny and his foreign chums.