[Closed] Does your child's name give away his class?

Obvious troll is obvious! TBH, you know you're on a loser when even Philip Schofield is kicking your arse.

Thanks Matt 🙂

Spade and patio...big hole needed for her hypocrisy

Plenty of simular judgmental attitudes on here.

Bet she also drives a range rover(not that a name matters) and has killed numerous cyclist.

Bit derisory there ernie 😉

I found that quite entertaining. 😀

I think the third Youtube comment from the top says it all really.

Well said Lloyd.

any child of mine will be called Knuckle**** Bumblescum

edit: Having watched the whole video, i'm guessing that woman just plain doesn't like black people too

This woman is clearly a little mad! And pretty horrible.

I do think names are important though, we spend ages deciding on names for our sons. More because I am Dutch and the names had to be practical in both languages.

My sons are called Rik and Stefan.

I suppose you now all know my background 😀

Can you judge the class of a person by the tv programmes they appear on?

That's ****ing hilarious. 😆 The meeja rolls this horrible woman out anytime they want a reaction. It is pure trolling on their part. She duly obliges and the rest of us get into a lather about it.

I have to say that I was looking at the voting bar on the screen and noticed that the question was "[b][i]Should[/i][/b] you judge a person by their name?" Unquestionably, the answer is "No" and the voting bars showed this. However, had the question been "[i][b]Do[/b][/i] you judge a person (or a child) by their name?" (and voters answered honestly), the bars would be much closer together. I think we all probably do it to a certain extent, despite knowing it's wrong.

Oh and as my child has a geographical name (not his first or second name), he obviously won't be hanging out with any child of Katie Hopkins. And that suits me fine.

She doesnt mention anything about walker and texas ranger does she 😀

Her child is called Poppy.

I don't get it....

You don't like geographical names.
Your child is called India.

I don't get it...

DrP

Our chimney sweep has three daughters:

Bailey Madison
Lexie Carmel
Adriana Lee

Where did his wife get them from?

(Musta been his wife because he's a really quiet unassuming bloke straight out of the Mark Cavendish mould)

I quite like those names.

Should we stick to the standard names of Mark, Paul, Luke and John?

Or shudder the modern version Jack??

How common is Jack and Jake going to be at schools etc soon.

What's up with Luke? Sadly she'll be doing serious harm to her daughters character.
I taught a lovely lass at school, who suddenly refused to share a dorm in a hostel with another lass ( because she wasn't hygeinic enough ie from the estate. I couldn't understand - then I spoke to her mum about it.......

Biblical names are the way to go for boys: zebedee Zechariah Levi Solomon

Have thought about changing my name to Arthur!

Should we stick to the standard names of Mark, Paul, Luke and John?

Good point, those names are shit.

I'm a Mark- shitloads at school etc growing up.

For my son I wanted Beck, Abraham, Arthur or my fave....Felix.

All rejected 🙁

Is Arthur popular now? Why? My grandad was called Arthur, always fancied using it...

Arnold and Arthur have something about them

just had to google her name

... we seem to be worrying about the opinions of a contestant from the ****ing apprentice 😯 - or has she done something worthwhile as well ?

She is vile.

[i]I'm a Mark-shitloads[/i]

that's an unusual hyphenated name 😉

We asked my son what his soon to be new baby sister should be called.

"Barbie-Diana"

was his choice.

I do sometimes wish we'd gone with it.

we seem to be worrying about the opinions of a contestant from the **** apprentice or has she done something worthwhile as well ?

Well she has provided the basis for a highly amusing video clip in which she has entertained people with her staggering, and hilarious, level of snobbery. So probably not so much a case of [i]worrying[/i] about her opinions and more a case of enjoying them. Tragic for her kids though.

my youngest lad is Hadrian Montgomery and eldest is Edward Aubrey. Iam called John which my sons think is boring so call me Bubbles (even in public)as it is more embarrassing than their names.
I wouldn't let my children play with hers as being a northern monkey, mine will be working down the pit after doing their homework and wouldn't have time to experience her idea of play. Plus she makes me want to be annoyed by her as she is a troll.

I like Aubrey- I had a great Course Leader at Uni called Aubrey. Top bloke.

Unusual names ? I`m Edric Wayland Hobbs .My boys are Alaric, Fabian and Lyndon.

I can't see anything wrong with Tyler as a name. Seems perfectly reasonable.

However, anyone coming to tea with my son who introduced themselves as [i]La-a[/i] would be sent home immediately.

Tyson on the other hand is a name for a large dog or mental boxer !

bit of a coincidence but that was my wife's choice. She had that Aubrey Manning chap lead her at Edinburgh Uni.

Attention seeking snob best ignored

Who is the bird? (Serious question). 'Katie' - I've seriously lost count on the amount of Katies I've got off with when I was younger. They all seemed to be abit loose/up for it. Thats not a troll- fun-loving and up for a something is how I'd describe 'Katie'.

It's nothing new. Direct marketing companies have been using first names to profile their customer base for years.

They gave her air time for that........... 😯

Must get a a job in TV.

My three sons all have 'proper' names - Joseph, George and Christian.

Why anyone would name their child a stupid name is beyond me.

Christian?

I presume that was shown on ITV? What else do you expect?

It is not the name, it's how many you have..

I knew a Timothy Edward Helmer Thomas Ramsley Royal.

See, it's not the name....

Well I'm not even watching it if it's from ITV. None of your commercial channels thank you.

Edric - is your son really called Alaric? As in the sacking of Rome? Doffs cap in respect!

Can someone give me the time on that clip that Holly Willoughby "loses it" please. That's all I want to see.

Pwned within 30 seconds by Schofield, no wonder she didn't win the Apprentice. 😆

Well I'm not even watching it if it's from ITV. None of your commercial channels thank you.

Would Daddy and Mummy not approve of one not watching the BBC?

Edric - is your son really called Alaric? As in the sacking of Rome? Doffs cap in respect!

Yes king of the Visigoths and sacker of Rome !

Awesome!

My three sons all have 'proper' names - Joseph, George and Christian.

No offence but don't you think to everyone else who names their childre what they do that they also think the sameway?

No one choses a name thinking 'I don't like him I'll call him something hateful'.

They chose a name that means something to them, their Grandads name maybe? Or feels proper, something they've always liked.

Who are we to slag them off? Britney and Chardonnay aren't 'bad' they are just linked to a stereo-type of people. I just dislike the norm for standard Christian names.

Names EVOLVE- go back a few decades and look at the names then- totally different. Simon, Kevin, Mark, Anthony etc are all 70's childrens names. Before that - Cyrill, Arthur, Cynthia etc etc

Thankyou !

The only criteria for me was to avoid names which could result in merciless playground piss-taking. Edmund, Aubrey, Jude etc. Even my name, Martin, is on the borderline as far as I'm concerned. Boys' names in particular need to have a decent abbreviated version.

Whether you like it or not, certain names you do associate with specific other phrases or situations. A name like Keanu, for instance, you associate with a sentences like:

"Keanu!!! Keanu!!!! *ing get over 'ere you little *!!!!" as it echoes down the supermarket isle

*sits back and awaits comments about choice of supermarkets*

😀

I have two Daughers -

Amelia Grace Righelato-Sutton (Millie)
Charlotte Louisa Righelato-Sutton

I'm Sutton and my wife is Righelato.

We did put a bit of thought into it as you want your kids names to work for them whatever walk of life they end up in - ie - would you want to be represented in court by a barrister called Chardonnay?

They go to a nice School in Farnborough Village and fit in nicely.
I wouldn't let them play with that woman off the Apprentices'' kids.

The only criteria for me was to avoid names which could result in merciless playground piss-taking. Edmund, Aubrey, Jude etc. Even my name, Martin,

you could call a child Presilla Queen of the Desert but if hes growing/the type who would hit you - you wouldn't dare even whisper it.

Children get picked on/named-called because they don't react and nip it in the bud.

If you called your son Tyson-Fury and he was a slight child they'd just nickname him tiny-fury or simply fatty, ginger or 4-eyes..

binners my next door is going to be called Elvis or Jesus. I'm going to love shouting that out in the park when I lose him...

I'm in the process of changing my name to "captain-kick-ass-ninja-threeinchpunch-the-merciless".

I feel it's a clean reflection of my middle class aspirational personality.

DrCKANTTM

The point is we all judge to a certain extent: I imagine most of us would guess that Reginald Aylmer Ranfurly Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax was a member of the British establishment

Children get picked on/named-called because they don't react and nip it in the bud.

Actually, that's a bit of a dangerous attitude. Trying to use violence to combat teasing only works if you make yourself into a dangerous thug, and I certainly don't want my kids to become that. I don't want them to think life is all about dog-eat-dog.

The best way to combat name calling or being picked on is actually NOT to react at all. If you don't look all hurt and wounded, there's no point in them doing it.

Whether you like it or not, certain names you do associate with specific other phrases or situations

I may be wary of a Dr called captain-kick-ass-ninja-threeinchpunch-the-merciless
I might do kumite* to see if he has earned his name

* sparring basically

Actually, that's a bit of a dangerous attitude. Trying to use violence to combat teasing only works if you make yourself into a dangerous thug, and I certainly don't want my kids to become that. I don't want them to think life is all about dog-eat-dog.

The best way to combat name calling or being picked on is actually NOT to react at all. If you don't look all hurt and wounded, there's no point in them doing it.

So if they are being shoved around, things rubbed in their faces, tripped up, bag/coat hidden etc etc - they'll just come across as a scared victim who is an easy target.

Nice one. You nip it in the bud- only takes one reaction, they are then seen as 'not worth the hassle/trouble' by the damaged/background kids (there are loads out there).

Why would it turn your child into a thug? Confused. I firmly believe that children who turn into bullies/thugs are due to their upbringing at home/home environment.

I've been there/reacted and went back to being myself.

Its a strange one IME bullies tend to have either poor morals , poor background or be massive. This idea that you can hit a bully and they will stop as I did it once and it never happened again is IMHO internet bravado BS. The reality is you got ****ted as bullies dont pick on people they cannot beat up as they are not that stupid though they do tend to be quite good at fighting , large and frightening.

Father [ it is always fathers] advising their kids to MTFU is tragic.
Most people who got bullied at school also hit out but they were crap at fighting

It is like advising someone in prison to hit the bully because that will make it stop.

No need to rise to Katie. She has made her "name"(sic) out of reality TV and courting controversy. If her "class" (for want of a better word) was in any way "real", she would have avoided both. Instead she has created a media personality (an updated Hyacinth Bucket) which is almost a vulgar as those she "pretends" to despise. She is obviously good at ironing! Having said that the other lady, while obviously less nauseous, did not shy away from her own reverse snobbery.

She is a creation of our age with the gravitas and relevance that is wholly appropriate for daytime TV and Schofield and Willoughby. Comedy value at best, an irrelevance at worst!

[Actually she forgot to mention dog's names - now THAT is a giveaway 😉 ]

I might do kumite* to see if he has earned his name

DrP quietly shreds the deed-poll forms and slowly backs away from confrontation....

DrP

So if they are being shoved around, things rubbed in their faces, tripped up, bag/coat hidden etc etc - they'll just come across as a scared victim who is an easy target.

That's the hard part of my strategy. Don't look scared, just do nothing.

You nip it in the bud- only takes one reaction, they are then seen as 'not worth the hassle/trouble' by the damaged/background kids

That does not work, categorically. I regularly used to punch out the kids who taunted me (I was always much larger and stronger), it never stopped them. Maybe if I'd thrashed them to within an inch of their lives it might've worked a bit better, but that would have probably done me more damage than them.

I've been there/reacted and went back to being myself.

And now here you are, advocating violence....

[img] [/img]

Hora makes his point earlier

[i]The reality is you got ****ted as bullies don't pick on people they cannot beat up as they are not that stupid though they do tend to be quite good at fighting , large and frightening[/i]

Happened at my school - remember it well - the bully (lets call him Alec, as that was his name) picked on a big, slow kid (let's call him Darren). Darren fought him into the ground until the Alec's brother came along and kicked Darren in the eye, ending the fight. Never picked on him again though.

Anyway, I'm outa here if I don't get to see Holly losing it.

Spade and patio...big hole needed for her hypocrisy

Her kids are called Spade and Patio?

And now here you are, advocating violence....

? You are arguing for arguing sake. Why is [b]standing up for yourself[/b] bad? Do you advocate 'run, hide, keep quiet' as a good way to deal with life for the kids for the future?

I'm advocating standing up for yourself.

I'm just not advocating using your fists to do it.

Raise a petition?
Bake him cakes?
Invite the bully to anger management?
Give him/her a pamphlet on abuse in the home?
hug him to stop him punching you?

I have just found out that my name is the new Coke flavour... How do they know what I taste like...

I'm advocating standing up for yourself.

I'm just not advocating using your fists to do it.

Sometimes Molly, you're really left with no option. Its a sad fact of life. But its a fact of life none the less

Why is standing up for yourself bad? Do you advocate 'run, hide, keep quiet' as a good way to deal with life for the kids for the future?

DEZ - how many others fought back and just got a kicking? All the rest of the folk he bullied?

Raise a petition?
Bake him cakes?
Invite the bully to anger management?
Give him/her a pamphlet on abuse in the home?
hug him to stop him punching you?

[img] [/img]

If only the reality of you bore even a passing resemblance to the internet image of you

Now go kill them tiger and hold nothing back

❓ Confused, how is that 'hardman' talk?

Antur (m) and Morzine (f)

but we shorten Morzine to Moz

[i]DEZ - how many others fought back and just got a kicking? All the rest of the folk he bullied?[/i]

Funnily enough - the only other actual fight I recall him getting into was after a rugby match. Apparently this boy (Chris) had done something during the game, Chris was walking past our minibus when we were waiting for the teacher, so Alec jumped out and had a go. Chris would've absolutely pummelled him if the teacher hadn't returned... I think Alec decided everyone else had caught up and his bullying days were over.

Might not be relevant to your point, but fond memories all the same 🙂

[edit] it is relevant: Some bullies [i]are[/i] stupid. Alec was!

Sometimes Molly, you're really left with no option.

Very rarely.

Bullies want two things. Either they want to dominate you, or they want a fight. Don't give them the satisfaction of either.

If you can learn to do that, you'll be far better off than if just resort to physical strength.

Some bullies are stupid. Alec was!

I think we all agree you need to stand up to and deal with bullies but a physical confrontation with someone bigger and stronger than you is unlikely to end well [ whether a child or an adult] so other strategies should be employed to deal with it.