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[Closed] Does anyone know about fireplaces/chimneys?

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Not your usual fireplace thread

We have what we assumed to be a fairly standard fireplace

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However in the process of doing other work we've discovered the chimney breast isn't really the chimney breast

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This is looking over the top of the chimney breast at ceiling level, outside wall on the left, joist on the right, floorboards above

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Looking over the top from the other side you can see there is what appears to be the chimney itself which at this level appears to be structurally separate from the visible chimney breast.

So my question is, how are these likely to be related/joined (or not) to each other? Is it likely to be possible to remove most of the chimney breast leaving the much smaller flue bit which is only 20cm x 4cm ish

Realise it might not be possible to say, but just wondering if anyone had come across a similar arrangement before


 
Posted : 21/01/2012 9:44 am
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Looks like a brick built chimney with a false decorative chimney breast built round. What are you intending to use the flue for?


 
Posted : 21/01/2012 9:53 am
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Not intending to use the flue for anything other than supporting the chimney stack above. Would be useful to get rid of the fireplace


 
Posted : 21/01/2012 9:58 am
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Think we'll take out the fireplace/grate bit itself and see how it looks from there. Can't quite work out in my head how it connects to the flue seeing as the flue doesn't line up with the centre


 
Posted : 21/01/2012 11:38 am
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Not an expert but ----- looking at your bottom shot, the brickwork goes up thorough the floor above?
In which case, be very careful of stripping the chimney out - that'll be a lot of unsupported weight above it....

True story, mate bought an old terraced house. It had a chimney but no fireplaces in front room or front bedroom when the houses around him had... this got him pondering so, he stuck his he stuck his head in the loft space where he found the rest of the chimney breast, the bit that goes on up to and out of the roof, fully unsupported and looking like it could fall at any moment.... they slept in the back room for a bit whilst it all got shored up....


 
Posted : 21/01/2012 12:20 pm
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The brickwork in the bottom shot is only around 30cm wide (we can measure it in the room above) and I presume is the flue and supports brickwork above. The chimney breast however is around 140cm wide and extends to ceiling height only. The question was whether I can remove the chimney breast and leave the flue.

All academic now anyway, further inspection has revealed that the bottom of the fireplace is recessed into the store behind and various other bits of brickwork means removing it wouldn't leave us with a flat wall with a small protusion as hoped for.


 
Posted : 21/01/2012 12:27 pm
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its prob supported off the flue adaptor. Sometimes the stack has a different skin of masonry to the breast. Got a PDF doc that could explain it if you want me to forward it? (although dosent show your exact situation but may help explain the different components).


 
Posted : 21/01/2012 12:39 pm
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PDF would be useful for trying to understand cheers

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Posted : 21/01/2012 12:42 pm