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[Closed] Doctors: What lives to my right of my stomach, under my ribs please?

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Because there's a dull ache there and it feels as if something's there, it gives shooting pains now and again, my tummy aches a bit and is tender if I poke it. Whatever it is has made my ribs hurt on the right side too. I had an ulcer ages ago and my GP gave my Ranitidine which cleared it up. This feels the same so I am taking R again, but what is the under-rib thing going on?


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 8:40 am
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Appendix


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 8:56 am
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Probably nothing to worry about......

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Posted : 16/05/2010 8:56 am
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im no doctor but i know your appendix is in that region. may be that. or wind!!!!


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 8:57 am
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Wind - yes, I am somehwat notorious for that ... ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:02 am
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Visit A&E this morning/asap whilst its quiet.


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:03 am
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yeah def visit a medical expert.. just to get some reassurance..

don't take my word for this cos this is only a hypochondriac's advice... but yer liver is under there or there abouts and ulcer treatment can upset your liver..


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:10 am
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deffo liver area.


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:14 am
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Can't be the Liver.


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:16 am
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๐Ÿ˜ฏ medical advice from here ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

You've started taking medication on a hunch?

Couldn't it just be a twinged/bruised muscle?

At least ring cuedoc (however it's spelt)


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:21 am
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Men should act sooner in general- dude, just get down to A&E- you can be there for 10pm and it'll still be quiet as the mental Sat night shift will have ended by now.

Go post 11am and you'll be queuing. You could wait until you get a Doc's appointment but what if its your Appendix and then it suddenly bursts?

Better to be a Hypochondriac than a chancer IMO. **** about wasting the health services time- you need to look after number 1.


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:25 am
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Call NHS direct: 0845 46 47
They'll give proper advice.


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:30 am
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If its under ribs its not appendix as appendix is fairly low down. Appendix is on the right just above the groin area...well, that where my appendix scar is.

[i]my tummy aches a bit and is tender if I poke it[/i]

Which area of your tummy is tender if you poke it?

+1 for phoning NHS Direct


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:33 am
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A&E = Accident & Emergency.

Whatever this is, it's not an accident and it's not an emergency.


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:37 am
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As above, appendix is down near the groin


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:39 am
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Men should act sooner in general- dude

I learned that lesson the hard way.

Similar symptoms to the OP which I ignored until the point where I was puking green stuff and curled up in a ball in agony. A ruptured appendix is not nice.

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Call NHS direct: 0845 46 47
They'll give proper advice.


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:39 am
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Whatever this is, it's not an accident and it's not an emergency.

His GP isn't open today.

He could wait, see how it develops or he could act now. If its my body I prefer to put me first. After all, in the future you can't buy your health for any price.


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:43 am
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[b]Go and get it checked out![/b]

A quote from an A&E Doctor to me just a few weeks ago:

Well, we think it probably is your appendix, but we'd expect you to be in a lot more discomfort than you appear to be at the moment

Over the next eight hours on the obs ward I was fortunately able to confirm their suspicions... retrocaecal gangrenous appendix that was fit to burst ๐Ÿ˜ฏ - welcome to a world of pain, enjoy the morphine!


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:44 am
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Thanks, I'll give NHS Direct a ring.

(I'm a she by the way)


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 10:02 am
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You are female? Welll helllloooooo 8)


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 10:05 am
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Its where your heart is. If you're a Vulcan.
Have you ruled this out?


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 10:08 am
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I'm a she by the way

Are you in labour?


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 10:13 am
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Can't be the Liver.

Don't ever listen to anything hora says. He's practically guaranteed it's your liver.


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 10:25 am
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Are you in labour?

not unless immaculate conception really exists

No, not Vulcan

We are Borg


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 10:47 am
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try dissection number 1 or number 7. [url= http://www.anatomy.wisc.edu/courses/gross/ ]Anatomical dissection[/url]. The tutor talks you through all the bits.


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 10:48 am
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Mmmmm now what to eat for breakfast??


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 10:52 am
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I don't know why but everytime I read the word 'liver' it makes me feel hungry. Pan-friend liver with onions anyone? Yum


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 11:01 am
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Some people on here have seriously questionable basic anatomy knowledge - appendix under your ribs?

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Posted : 16/05/2010 11:03 am
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Gall bladder

Fair Fat Forty Female - do you tick more than one of these?


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 11:03 am
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So you are saying the OP has a Hamster trapped well up inside her colon?


 
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Answer to the purely anatomical question going roughly from front to back is liver, gall bladder, right kidney and right adrenal gland. You can also get discomfort there from muscular/bone damage and sometimes from base of right lung. Pancreas is more central and sits below stomach against back wall of abdomen. Gut curled up in all available space below and to the front.

+1 for if in doubt get it checked.


 
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Had my gall bladder out when I was 25 - completely out, gone.

Not fair, fifty four, not fat, yes female.


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 11:24 am
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Sounds most likely to be a return of the ulcers or a new gall bladder problem if you go to a+e there will most likely be an out of hours doctors surgery running within or very near the same building.

Enjoy your wait ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 11:25 am
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when I had appendicitis, it started as a "stitch" in my left ribs, then moved across to the right side, before I started puking & it went further down and became tender to the touch

I was 11 at the time, next morning my mum took me to the GP who diagnosed it correctly. one ambulance ride to local hospital (1976, single parent, no car in case anyone feels like complaining about using valuable ambulance resources) and 24 hours later & it was out


 
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Some people on here have seriously questionable basic anatomy knowledge - appendix under your ribs?

You think?


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 1:46 pm
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Your third Chakra Manipura is there karinofnine (solar plexus area). Associated with gut reactions, personal energy, life force.

Don't know a lot about it, quite interested in it, just a thought.


 
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Your third Chakra Manipura is there karinofnine (solar plexus area). Associated with gut reactions, personal energy, life force.

Blink. And we're back in the middle ages.


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 2:13 pm
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Your third Chakra Manipura is there karinofnine (solar plexus area). Associated with gut reactions, personal energy, life force.

annabananna are you bisexual artist living in Hebden Bridge?


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 3:55 pm
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Where the pain is and where the bit that is causing the pain is are not the same thing - you sometimes get referred pain that appears in different area.

It does not sound like either an accident or and emergency to me - depends how bad the pain is.


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 4:09 pm
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Some funny comments on here (maybe the OP's gall bladder has regenerated itself ๐Ÿ˜† ) from people who are quite obviously NOT doctors.

If you call NHS Direct you will probably get an ambulance asap as they will make the jump from rib/abdo tenderness to chest pain which will require an 8 minute response.

I am not a doctor and I don't think one would even attempt a diagnosis on something this general without a full history, prod about and maybe further scans/tests.

I'd agree with TJ re A&E - it really depends how severe the pain is and how you feel + the fact you say it is the same as experienced before with ulcers.

Hopefully the ranitidine will ease the symptoms which may give your GP or other whoever you go to see a further clue.


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 5:12 pm
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IIRC you can still get common bile duct stones even though you have no gall bladder


 
Posted : 16/05/2010 9:13 pm
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Update. I went to a specialist yesterday. I'm booked for an ultrasound scan next Wednesday.

Apparently you CAN grow gallstones without a gallbladder, and he thinks this is what I've done. He says the "chemistry [that was there to create the original stones] is still there". Interesting eh?

Wonder what method will be used to get rid of them? Bearing in mind I am in training for Kielder it had better be minimal.


 
Posted : 03/06/2010 1:53 pm
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I'd put my money on it being either:
-recurrence of duodenal ulcer
-common bile duct stone (the CBD is what takes the bile from the liver to the gut - it can get stones too)

As you're still here 2 weeks later, appendicitis seems unlikey ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Posted : 03/06/2010 2:08 pm
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Oh - to get rid of them they stick a scope down your mouth to the early part of the gut, then fish the stones out of the pipes with a little net!
(ERCP if interested)

DrP


 
Posted : 03/06/2010 2:09 pm
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DrP, I'm impressed - the directions to the radiographer say: "scan upper biliary tree". I'll let you know the results. Thanks for the heads up on the likely procedure, sounds like little or no time off the bike (I take it they will put me to sleep to do it?).

I've got a cyst behind my knee and a lump on my knee cap. Seems I broke it last year (I remember what caused it) without realising and it's healed itself with an extra bit. Funny, it was just before the Brighton Big Dog. I started but pulled out because my knee felt strange. I felt really wimpish for pulling out. Now I know it was broken I feel better. Unfortunately I did ligament damage too which has made the cyst. I'm having it drained in the short term then after Kielder I'll have it fixed permanently (6-8 weeks off hard riding).


 
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Nah, they don't knock you out for ERCP, just lightly sedated.
Local anasthetic spray for the throat, sedative in the arm, then swallow the scope. Possibly an overnight stay but that's all.


 
Posted : 03/06/2010 9:26 pm
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As you're still here 2 weeks later, appendicitis seems unlikey

Mine went haywire on 5 occasions before it finally came out. I was ultra sounded to check for stones poked and prodded around by several doctors, went to A&E on the advice of one doctor and no one seemed to be able to find out what was wrong. Finally after another attack a locum doctor at the surgery referred me to a specialist at Lewes hospital. I described what was happening and he looked at my notes and told me it was my appendix flaring up, effectively an appendicitis starting but then settling down again after 24 hours or so. He said it might never go nuclear but based on the fact that I travel a lot for work and there are places with a worse health system than the UK he felt it best it came out. I agreed, not a difficult decision considering how bad I felt during an attack. He opened his diary said when do you want it out and we agreed on a date around 7 weeks later, he could have done it in 4 weeks but I had work commitments. The pathology results showed it had been the problem and it was inflamed when it came out.

So although it's unlikely that you've got a dodgy appendix don't rule it out. I saw plenty of doctors all of whom took the situation seriously and sent me for all manner of tests but none of whom had thought it might be my appendix.


 
Posted : 03/06/2010 9:46 pm
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The pathology results showed it had been the problem and it was inflamed when it came out...

Interesting, but very rare to have a grumbling appendicitis! Glad it got sorted.

based on the fact that I travel a lot for work and there are places with a worse health system than the UK....

You're not an astronaut are you?! For some reason I have it in my head that they take the appendix out in astronauts prophylacticaly for that very reason!

DrP


 
Posted : 04/06/2010 7:50 am
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Got the results of an ultra sound scan. No stones or abnormalities in liver, kidney or any part of my biliary tree.

I've got to go for a CT scan on Monday, and an endoscopy either next Friday or the Friday after ๐Ÿ™


 
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[i]endoscopy[/i]

I can sense another Agent Picolax thread on the way...


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 4:26 pm